JVC Pro HD and Adobe Premiere Pro

Jon Jaschob · July 9th, 2006, 01:21 AM

Hi Daniel,
I'm a little fuzzy with your reply.
Can I shoot/edit in HD 24p (AspectHD codex), then transcode to SD 24p 16:9 for the DVD? Do I transcode in Ppro 2 or Encore 2?
Right now I'm using Ppro 1.5 with AspectHD for capture, but plan on upgrading to Ppro2 and Encore DVD 2 for the project.
Thanks again for your time,
Jon

Bart Walczak · July 9th, 2006, 02:43 AM

Jon,

The workflow you mentioned will work perfectly. You can transcode either in PPro using Adobe Media Encoder or in Encore.

best regards

Jon Jaschob · July 9th, 2006, 10:22 AM

Great, thanks!
One less thing to worry about :-)
Jon

David Scattergood · September 4th, 2006, 11:56 AM

...is this possible?
Not a major issue as I will soon migrate to FCP on a mac (currently awaiting any possible iMac upgrade over the next couple of weeks). However, in the meantime it would be nice to know I could shoot some HDV (25p) and down convert it using this program (as far as I'm aware you cannot down convert from the camera itself?).
Sorry if this has already been covered...I've searched back a few pages and nothing was apparent.

Many thanks.

Daniel Patton · September 4th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Yes, you can.

David Scattergood · September 4th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Cheers. I've just read up a little and it appears I may have to upgrade 1.5...then purchase an add on HD program, unless that is for strictly editing HDV footage (which I'm not to fussed about at the moment)...or is 'yes, you can' relating to downconverting from the camera itself?

Thanks.

Daniel Patton · September 4th, 2006, 06:02 PM

Yes from Premier, and no not directly from the camera. ;)

And yes again, you are correct that you will need something (like Cineform's Aspect HD) to work with the footage as HD in Premiere. Edit everything as HD and when done editing simply choose an SD format for the export with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.2 (widescreen).

David Scattergood · September 5th, 2006, 03:12 AM

Thanks Daniel.
I suspected I may have to purchase add ons for my version of Premiere...I guess it's not worth as later this month I'm 'migrating' to a mac using FCP.
Shame about the camera not down converting mind!
Cheers
Dave.

Chris Barcellos · September 5th, 2006, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Patton

Yes from Premier, and no not directly from the camera. ;)

And yes again, you are correct that you will need something (like Cineform's Aspect HD) to work with the footage as HD in Premiere. Edit everything as HD and when done editing simply choose an SD format for the export with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.2 (widescreen).

Actually Premeire 1.51 upgrades Premiere Pro to HDV capture, using the Cineform codec as the intermediate capture codec. You edit in that, and then down convert from there. 2.0 uses "native capture" and editing, but Cineform Aspect is recommended by most for reducing load on system, and superior editing and color handling.

Jon Jaschob · September 5th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Aspect HD edits like SD DV in PPro2 and for my needs has the plugins I use most, Cross Dissolve, Color Adjustment, Speed, all in RT.
But I too will be moving onto a mac using FCP soon.

Jeff Schaap · September 13th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Has anyone been able to succesfully BATCH capture from a JVC BR-HD50 via IEEE1394 with Premiere 1.5.1? While our system will free capture from the deck it will not correctly control it for batch capture. I did have the firmware upgraded to 1.05 but the results were the same.

Premiere can't seem to bring the deck back into search mode from a dead stop. If I manually bring it to still mode or play while trying to batch capture Premiere will grab control, cue it and begin the capture. However, the capture duration remains at 0 during recording and more often than not misses the out point.

Even more strange is that I am able to batch capture from our JVC GY-HD100u via IEEE1394 cameras flawlessly.

Anyone have insight on this problem?

Thanks,
Jeff Schaap
Red Letter Productions
Adrian, Michigan

Max Baker · September 20th, 2006, 09:06 PM

Looking for help with a problem. Am capturing HDV from my HD100 into Premiere Pro 2 using the JVCHDPro codec (not Aspect). Video captures fine, but the audio runs for about a minute and a half and then goes into a loop (about 1.5 minute loop) for the rest of the capture. Anyone experience this? Any suggestions? My system: Pentium D 3.0 Ghz dual, 7800 video card, 2 GB RAM, 580 GB of hard drives, OS is XP Pro. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much!
Max.

Jeff Schaap · October 17th, 2006, 06:54 AM

I just wanted to post that I FINALLY was able to resolve this problem and it turned out to be something very simple. For whatever reason, the INPUT switch (not the IEEE siwtch) on the front panel has to be in the "HDV/DV" input position in order for the deck to correctly be controlled by Premiere. WHO KNEW?

Joshua Clarke · January 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM

Hey all, I want to start out by thanking Mr. Dashwood, Mr. Noe, and Mr. Ciccone for their wonderful thread on scene files. We're finally getting the opportunity to use them and the guide and articles written by you three were an amazing help.

But beyond that, we're gearing up for a commercial shoot in which I would like to attempt doing a direct to disk capture. I believe it will be an unfortunate necessity because the commercial will be playing on the local Comcast channel which has a bad time of not setting standards for what they broadcast. So I was hoping I could salvage as much of the integrity of the picture by capturing it uncompressed.

The problem there is our main editing platform is now 5 years old and sorely underpowered. We're stuck with the machine for a while longer until we're able to pay off our first equipment purchase debt and we don't have the funds right now to buy a program like DV Rack. (The system is a P4 2.26ghz, 1 gig RDRAM, NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 @ 128 mb, running Adobe Production Bundle.)

So my question is: is there a cheap (free, if possible) alternative to capturing direct to disk on this antiquated system? Something I can download?

Another alternative is that my partner has a personal laptop that runs FC 5.x.x, through which we'd be able to edit HDV, but again we'd need a cheap/free solution to capture uncompressed.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

Dennis Stevens · January 9th, 2007, 11:56 AM

I don't know if this would work for you....

I use dvrack (hdvrack I guess more accurately) and it will capture Mpeg2 files to the hard drive. Maybe you could download the trial version?

September 4th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#79
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	HDV down conversion via Premiere Pro 1.5 ...is this possible? Not a major issue as I will soon migrate to FCP on a mac (currently awaiting any possible iMac upgrade over the next couple of weeks). However, in the meantime it would be nice to know I could shoot some HDV (25p) and down convert it using this program (as far as I'm aware you cannot down convert from the camera itself?). Sorry if this has already been covered...I've searched back a few pages and nothing was apparent. Many thanks.

September 4th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#80
Daniel Patton Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 589	Yes, you can. __________________ Our eyes allow us to see the world - The lens allows others to see the world through our eyes. RED ONE #977

September 4th, 2006, 06:02 PM	#82
Daniel Patton Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 589	Yes from Premier, and no not directly from the camera. ;) And yes again, you are correct that you will need something (like Cineform's Aspect HD) to work with the footage as HD in Premiere. Edit everything as HD and when done editing simply choose an SD format for the export with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.2 (widescreen). __________________ Our eyes allow us to see the world - The lens allows others to see the world through our eyes. RED ONE #977

September 13th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#86
Jeff Schaap New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 8	BR-HD50 and Premiere 1.5.1 Has anyone been able to succesfully BATCH capture from a JVC BR-HD50 via IEEE1394 with Premiere 1.5.1? While our system will free capture from the deck it will not correctly control it for batch capture. I did have the firmware upgraded to 1.05 but the results were the same. Premiere can't seem to bring the deck back into search mode from a dead stop. If I manually bring it to still mode or play while trying to batch capture Premiere will grab control, cue it and begin the capture. However, the capture duration remains at 0 during recording and more often than not misses the out point. Even more strange is that I am able to batch capture from our JVC GY-HD100u via IEEE1394 cameras flawlessly. Anyone have insight on this problem? Thanks, Jeff Schaap Red Letter Productions Adrian, Michigan

September 20th, 2006, 09:06 PM	#87
Max Baker New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7	Audio Looping Problem in Premiere Pro 2 Looking for help with a problem. Am capturing HDV from my HD100 into Premiere Pro 2 using the JVCHDPro codec (not Aspect). Video captures fine, but the audio runs for about a minute and a half and then goes into a loop (about 1.5 minute loop) for the rest of the capture. Anyone experience this? Any suggestions? My system: Pentium D 3.0 Ghz dual, 7800 video card, 2 GB RAM, 580 GB of hard drives, OS is XP Pro. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much! Max.

July 9th, 2006, 01:21 AM	#76
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Hi Daniel, I'm a little fuzzy with your reply. Can I shoot/edit in HD 24p (AspectHD codex), then transcode to SD 24p 16:9 for the DVD? Do I transcode in Ppro 2 or Encore 2? Right now I'm using Ppro 1.5 with AspectHD for capture, but plan on upgrading to Ppro2 and Encore DVD 2 for the project. Thanks again for your time, Jon

July 9th, 2006, 02:43 AM	#77
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Jon, The workflow you mentioned will work perfectly. You can transcode either in PPro using Adobe Media Encoder or in Encore. best regards

July 9th, 2006, 10:22 AM	#78
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Great, thanks! One less thing to worry about :-) Jon

September 4th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#81
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Cheers. I've just read up a little and it appears I may have to upgrade 1.5...then purchase an add on HD program, unless that is for strictly editing HDV footage (which I'm not to fussed about at the moment)...or is 'yes, you can' relating to downconverting from the camera itself? Thanks.

September 5th, 2006, 03:12 AM	#83
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Thanks Daniel. I suspected I may have to purchase add ons for my version of Premiere...I guess it's not worth as later this month I'm 'migrating' to a mac using FCP. Shame about the camera not down converting mind! Cheers Dave.

September 5th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#85
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Aspect HD edits like SD DV in PPro2 and for my needs has the plugins I use most, Cross Dissolve, Color Adjustment, Speed, all in RT. But I too will be moving onto a mac using FCP soon.

October 17th, 2006, 06:54 AM	#88
Jeff Schaap New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 8	Solved! I just wanted to post that I FINALLY was able to resolve this problem and it turned out to be something very simple. For whatever reason, the INPUT switch (not the IEEE siwtch) on the front panel has to be in the "HDV/DV" input position in order for the deck to correctly be controlled by Premiere. WHO KNEW?

January 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM	#89
Joshua Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 88	Direct to disk on underpowered Premiere Pro 2.0 system Hey all, I want to start out by thanking Mr. Dashwood, Mr. Noe, and Mr. Ciccone for their wonderful thread on scene files. We're finally getting the opportunity to use them and the guide and articles written by you three were an amazing help. But beyond that, we're gearing up for a commercial shoot in which I would like to attempt doing a direct to disk capture. I believe it will be an unfortunate necessity because the commercial will be playing on the local Comcast channel which has a bad time of not setting standards for what they broadcast. So I was hoping I could salvage as much of the integrity of the picture by capturing it uncompressed. The problem there is our main editing platform is now 5 years old and sorely underpowered. We're stuck with the machine for a while longer until we're able to pay off our first equipment purchase debt and we don't have the funds right now to buy a program like DV Rack. (The system is a P4 2.26ghz, 1 gig RDRAM, NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 @ 128 mb, running Adobe Production Bundle.) So my question is: is there a cheap (free, if possible) alternative to capturing direct to disk on this antiquated system? Something I can download? Another alternative is that my partner has a personal laptop that runs FC 5.x.x, through which we'd be able to edit HDV, but again we'd need a cheap/free solution to capture uncompressed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys. __________________ Section 1 Films

January 9th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#90
Dennis Stevens Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 425	I don't know if this would work for you.... I use dvrack (hdvrack I guess more accurately) and it will capture Mpeg2 files to the hard drive. Maybe you could download the trial version?