New 3D 720p24 RAW camera in news: at DVinfo.net

Wayne Morellini · January 17th, 2006, 09:09 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...479#post414479

I know a few people in this forum have been asking about something like this for a while.

Andrew Todd · January 17th, 2006, 10:21 PM

i always wondered. : if camera had 2 (3) ccds (like 2 3ccd chipsets).. capturing the same image.. or as close as possible as this 3d frankenstein camera is.. could you not overlay the two images making up for poor image quality and lessening digital artifacting in a lot of movement shots... like one might pick up for the spots the other missed???

Wayne Morellini · January 17th, 2006, 10:47 PM

Possible .

Michael Maier · January 18th, 2006, 01:20 AM

Interesting. I didn't read the whole article, but 4:4:4? Sounds somehow like a 3D version of the Andromeda and I wonder, if they managed to record uncompressed to 2 onboard 100GB drives, why can't Andromeda and why can't a similar box be made for the HD100 and the others with uncompressed out? My guess is that it can. They used 2 Mac minis, so I'm thinking it shouldn't be expensive or complex. But then again, what do I know?

Brian J. Harris · January 30th, 2006, 02:52 PM

Hello,

According to 3DVX3 inventor Jason Goodman's post on the www.reel-stream.com website, the 3DVX3 uses double ANDROMEDA systems.

http://forum.reel-stream.com/viewtopic.php?t=352

Hope the link works.

Joel Kreisel · January 31st, 2006, 01:47 AM

The only problem with this approach to creating a stereoscopic camera is that it doesn't actually mimic human vision. We see in stereo, yes, but when we focus on something our eyes turn toward it, which alters the perspective of each eye and gives a huge boost to our perception of depth. With two cameras fixed next to each other, that's impossible. So really it's closer to a video camera equivalent of someone with tunnel vision.

Not to say that this isn't a huge advancement... I know I couldn't do it. But stereoscopy has fascinated me since I was a kid, and this has always been the problem with most attempts to photograph/film in 3D. Anywho, my two cents...

Pip Brown · August 28th, 2008, 12:59 PM

This Stereoscopic rig seems like it won't be very versatile, probably OK for sports filming but no good for anything close as would be needed for say drama, the separation of the lenses is just to great. Still, I take my hat of to them for creating the camera.

Also it's only available for hire; we need a digital cinema quality stereoscopic all in one rig that we can all purchase who are interested in creating 3D feature films, and a smaller one for semi pro and home use.

What we need is a versatile HD stereoscopic camera that is 2k or more and is not to big but is able to get the images/lenses as close as 30mm or less for ultra close head and shoulder and face shots and also be able to go wider to 65mm for standard shots and even wide for scenery, and all with convergence and precision, i.e., complete control of the stereo window, controls for both lenses to be focused at the same, both exposures to be set at the same time, The only way to do this at the moment is with a 3D mirror rig, this is a rather large and can be cumbersome solution because the need the cameras and the semi silvered mirror at 45 degree angles.

So I would like an incredible new optical lens system with both cameras combined as one, and maybe in the future it will be possible for the 2 images to be auto conformed into one side by side 3D format codec, fully synched and ready for editing, final adjustments if needed and grading in one go, we also need the current editing software company' I don't want much do I.

Phil Brown, Media55

January 17th, 2006, 09:09 PM	#1
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	New 3D 720p24 RAW camera in news: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...479#post414479 I know a few people in this forum have been asking about something like this for a while.

January 17th, 2006, 10:21 PM	#2
Andrew Todd Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saint John, CANADA Posts: 633	i always wondered. : if camera had 2 (3) ccds (like 2 3ccd chipsets).. capturing the same image.. or as close as possible as this 3d frankenstein camera is.. could you not overlay the two images making up for poor image quality and lessening digital artifacting in a lot of movement shots... like one might pick up for the spots the other missed??? __________________ video : xl2 / letus35xl / bogen 503 photo- canon 1dmkII - bronica etrsi

January 30th, 2006, 02:52 PM	#5
Brian J. Harris Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenbrier, TN Posts: 89	3DVX3 uses ANDROMEDA Hello, According to 3DVX3 inventor Jason Goodman's post on the www.reel-stream.com website, the 3DVX3 uses double ANDROMEDA systems. http://forum.reel-stream.com/viewtopic.php?t=352 Hope the link works. __________________ Thanks, Brian www.naturefootage.com

August 28th, 2008, 12:59 PM	#7
Pip Brown Tourist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 3	What I think a Stereoscopic camera should be This Stereoscopic rig seems like it won't be very versatile, probably OK for sports filming but no good for anything close as would be needed for say drama, the separation of the lenses is just to great. Still, I take my hat of to them for creating the camera. Also it's only available for hire; we need a digital cinema quality stereoscopic all in one rig that we can all purchase who are interested in creating 3D feature films, and a smaller one for semi pro and home use. What we need is a versatile HD stereoscopic camera that is 2k or more and is not to big but is able to get the images/lenses as close as 30mm or less for ultra close head and shoulder and face shots and also be able to go wider to 65mm for standard shots and even wide for scenery, and all with convergence and precision, i.e., complete control of the stereo window, controls for both lenses to be focused at the same, both exposures to be set at the same time, The only way to do this at the moment is with a 3D mirror rig, this is a rather large and can be cumbersome solution because the need the cameras and the semi silvered mirror at 45 degree angles. So I would like an incredible new optical lens system with both cameras combined as one, and maybe in the future it will be possible for the 2 images to be auto conformed into one side by side 3D format codec, fully synched and ready for editing, final adjustments if needed and grading in one go, we also need the current editing software company' I don't want much do I. Phil Brown, Media55

January 17th, 2006, 10:47 PM	#3
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Possible .

January 18th, 2006, 01:20 AM	#4
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Interesting. I didn't read the whole article, but 4:4:4? Sounds somehow like a 3D version of the Andromeda and I wonder, if they managed to record uncompressed to 2 onboard 100GB drives, why can't Andromeda and why can't a similar box be made for the HD100 and the others with uncompressed out? My guess is that it can. They used 2 Mac minis, so I'm thinking it shouldn't be expensive or complex. But then again, what do I know?

January 31st, 2006, 01:47 AM	#6
Joel Kreisel Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 44	The only problem with this approach to creating a stereoscopic camera is that it doesn't actually mimic human vision. We see in stereo, yes, but when we focus on something our eyes turn toward it, which alters the perspective of each eye and gives a huge boost to our perception of depth. With two cameras fixed next to each other, that's impossible. So really it's closer to a video camera equivalent of someone with tunnel vision. Not to say that this isn't a huge advancement... I know I couldn't do it. But stereoscopy has fascinated me since I was a kid, and this has always been the problem with most attempts to photograph/film in 3D. Anywho, my two cents...