3D HD Forum Needed at DVinfo.net

Petr Marusek · January 8th, 2006, 01:35 PM

Or at least 3D forum. HD is becoming mainstream. 3D HD will be the next wave. Disney made a survey that indicates that they can make some tens of percent more on 3D movies and are involved in retrofiting about 100 theaters for 3D projection. Sharp developed notebook with 3D screen that requires no glasses. Philips will have 3D TV sets in 2008 that do not require glasses. Cameron and others are all experimenting with 3D. Rodriguez made successful Spy 3D. There is an attachment that works with, I think, up to 37 mm threaded lenses that convert cameras to 3d. It supposedly works with HC1 and A1 HDV cameras. Canon had at one time a prototype of a 3D lens for their XL1 camera that many wanted to buy.

Although the market is quite negligible now, it may be a good idea to shoot 3D to extend life of content, just like some do with HD now. One camera material would become 2D content. When 3D becomes mainstream, the 2-camera 3D version could be released.

I am very interested in this technology. I am sure I'm not alone. If a forum could be created for this, the interest may prove to be quite large and the manufacturers of the low end pro gear may take notice and start producing tools that are needed. Meanwhile we can discuss tools that are available and techniques of 3D production.

Les Dit · January 8th, 2006, 02:08 PM

Too bad that the flat screen and other big screen TV's that are replacing the CRT's right now are not able to support the fast refresh rates that the shutter glasses need to work.

-Les

Petr Marusek · January 8th, 2006, 02:12 PM

Some of the latest LCD's have 2 and 3 ms refresh rates.

Les Dit · January 8th, 2006, 04:02 PM

Do they allow fast > 60 Hz refresh rates from the computer/source?

-Les

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr Marusek

Some of the latest LCD's have 2 and 3 ms refresh rates.

Petr Marusek · January 8th, 2006, 04:08 PM

of course they do

Les Dit · January 8th, 2006, 05:00 PM

Cool, do you have a link for one ?
Love to see it! All my LCD's are fixed at 60 Hz. right now.
Thanks

Petr Marusek · January 8th, 2006, 06:48 PM

I'm not sure, but I think that Samsung, maybe even Viewsonic announced these fast refresh rate LCD's.

Chris Hurd · January 8th, 2006, 09:02 PM

Our criteria for launching new boards has been posted before, but basically we need about twenty or so existing threads on a topic. I won't start empty boards. If there's enough interest then anything is possible here.

Wayne Morellini · January 9th, 2006, 08:35 AM

I'm interested to.

Petr Marusek · January 9th, 2006, 08:52 AM

http://www.vrealities.com/

Virtuality reality store, 3D HD glasses, 3D movies - not enough - waiting for you guys to make some more.

3D HD, The Final Frontier

Chris Hurd · June 22nd, 2007, 06:45 AM

It took some time, but here's your dedicated 3D / Stereo Videography forum.

By the way, if there are any 3D threads elsewhere on DV Info Net that should be in here, just provide the links -- I know I've probably missed a few.

Wayne Morellini · June 25th, 2007, 02:11 PM

There has been much bigger interest in Digital Cinema camera projects in past, as well as various camera capture attempts, but the threads get lost with all the adaptor and DIY camera attachment threads. It would be good to have the threads in their own sub-forum, but they would get a bit missed. Another idea would be to have an split page view, like you do with the sticky threads, with "Custom Camera Imaging Equipment" threads on top, and "Custom Camera and Capture (Including Digital Cinema Cameras)" threads on the bottom to make it easier to zoom in on what you want, glance at everything else, and still be able to attract new converts from equipment.

Thanks again for the great site.

Wayne.

Prech Marton · July 30th, 2007, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr Marusek

Some of the latest LCD's have 2 and 3 ms refresh rates.

As far as i know all PC lcd and lcd tv refresh rate is fixed at 60-75Hz.
It doesn't matter whatever ms time the lcd have. This is even not the time from full white to full black, just gray-to-gray. (marketing)
BUT even if the panel have real 2-3ms delay, the electronic only displays max 75 hz. The 100hz lcd actually doubles the 50hz signal.
So i wonder, where can i buy a REAL 100/120 LCD TV.
Any link?

thx,
Marton

Serge Victorovich · July 31st, 2007, 05:56 AM

120Hz can display a few new models of DLP RPTV from Samsung and Mitsubishi. They use DMD chip with wobulation aka vertical interlace (960x1080/120Hz=fullHD 1920x1080/60Hz).
I think this solution similar to DepthQ front projector.

ZDNet Executive Editor David Berlind talks to Samsung's manager of HDTV product planning, Dan Schinasi, about the company's new 3D HD rear-projection television. To enable 3D content on the TV, users will need Samsung proprietary software, a PC, a DVI card and 3D glasses.

http://news.com.com/1606-2-6197253.html

January 8th, 2006, 01:35 PM	#1
Petr Marusek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 155	3D HD Forum Needed Or at least 3D forum. HD is becoming mainstream. 3D HD will be the next wave. Disney made a survey that indicates that they can make some tens of percent more on 3D movies and are involved in retrofiting about 100 theaters for 3D projection. Sharp developed notebook with 3D screen that requires no glasses. Philips will have 3D TV sets in 2008 that do not require glasses. Cameron and others are all experimenting with 3D. Rodriguez made successful Spy 3D. There is an attachment that works with, I think, up to 37 mm threaded lenses that convert cameras to 3d. It supposedly works with HC1 and A1 HDV cameras. Canon had at one time a prototype of a 3D lens for their XL1 camera that many wanted to buy. Although the market is quite negligible now, it may be a good idea to shoot 3D to extend life of content, just like some do with HD now. One camera material would become 2D content. When 3D becomes mainstream, the 2-camera 3D version could be released. I am very interested in this technology. I am sure I'm not alone. If a forum could be created for this, the interest may prove to be quite large and the manufacturers of the low end pro gear may take notice and start producing tools that are needed. Meanwhile we can discuss tools that are available and techniques of 3D production.

January 8th, 2006, 09:02 PM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Our criteria for launching new boards has been posted before, but basically we need about twenty or so existing threads on a topic. I won't start empty boards. If there's enough interest then anything is possible here. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 22nd, 2007, 06:45 AM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It took some time, but here's your dedicated 3D / Stereo Videography forum. By the way, if there are any 3D threads elsewhere on DV Info Net that should be in here, just provide the links -- I know I've probably missed a few. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 8th, 2006, 02:08 PM	#2
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Too bad that the flat screen and other big screen TV's that are replacing the CRT's right now are not able to support the fast refresh rates that the shutter glasses need to work. -Les

January 8th, 2006, 02:12 PM	#3
Petr Marusek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 155	Some of the latest LCD's have 2 and 3 ms refresh rates.

January 8th, 2006, 04:08 PM	#5
Petr Marusek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 155	of course they do

January 8th, 2006, 05:00 PM	#6
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Cool, do you have a link for one ? Love to see it! All my LCD's are fixed at 60 Hz. right now. Thanks

January 8th, 2006, 06:48 PM	#7
Petr Marusek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 155	I'm not sure, but I think that Samsung, maybe even Viewsonic announced these fast refresh rate LCD's.

January 9th, 2006, 08:35 AM	#9
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	I'm interested to.

January 9th, 2006, 08:52 AM	#10
Petr Marusek Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 155	http://www.vrealities.com/ Virtuality reality store, 3D HD glasses, 3D movies - not enough - waiting for you guys to make some more. 3D HD, The Final Frontier

June 25th, 2007, 02:11 PM	#12
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	There has been much bigger interest in Digital Cinema camera projects in past, as well as various camera capture attempts, but the threads get lost with all the adaptor and DIY camera attachment threads. It would be good to have the threads in their own sub-forum, but they would get a bit missed. Another idea would be to have an split page view, like you do with the sticky threads, with "Custom Camera Imaging Equipment" threads on top, and "Custom Camera and Capture (Including Digital Cinema Cameras)" threads on the bottom to make it easier to zoom in on what you want, glance at everything else, and still be able to attract new converts from equipment. Thanks again for the great site. Wayne.

July 31st, 2007, 05:56 AM	#14
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	120Hz can display a few new models of DLP RPTV from Samsung and Mitsubishi. They use DMD chip with wobulation aka vertical interlace (960x1080/120Hz=fullHD 1920x1080/60Hz). I think this solution similar to DepthQ front projector. ZDNet Executive Editor David Berlind talks to Samsung's manager of HDTV product planning, Dan Schinasi, about the company's new 3D HD rear-projection television. To enable 3D content on the TV, users will need Samsung proprietary software, a PC, a DVI card and 3D glasses. http://news.com.com/1606-2-6197253.html