How do you make a 3D blu-ray disk that will play on a 3D TV with a 3D blu-ray ray pla at DVinfo.net

Benjamin Smith · August 16th, 2010, 07:34 AM

Hello all

Does anyone know how you can make 3D blu-ray disks that play on a 3DTV set? I have the left and right eye movies in 1920x1080 30p format; but I can't see any easy way of making the blu-ray disk!

I am aware the format is fairly simple, I think it's just a side by side movie on an otherwise conventional blu-ray; but maybe you have to set a flag or something to "tell" the player it's 3D so it display on the user's 3DTV.

Any help appreciated!

/ben

Steve Shovlar · August 16th, 2010, 08:26 AM

Hi Ben its very easy and I made a blu-ray 3d dvd just an hour ago with 10 minutes of footage.

I own the Sony 40 inch 3D tv. I made the 3D footage in Tim Dashwoods program in side by side mode and outputted a high quality side by side file. Brought this into toast 10 and burned a blu-ray DVD.

Stuck it in the PS3, chose side by side from the Sony TV 3D menu and Bob's your uncle!

Pavel Houda · August 16th, 2010, 08:27 AM

Make squeezed sbs(side-by-side) or a/b (above/below) streams, author regular 2D disc and play on the TV. You will have to select the 3D mode and type of layout on the TV set manually.

Petri Teittinen · August 16th, 2010, 08:40 AM

You won't even need a 3D Blu-ray player if you create a SbS (Half) stream. You'll lose half of horizontal resolution though, but it looks pretty good regardless.

Benjamin Smith · August 16th, 2010, 09:33 AM

OK so side by side is good. Do ALL 3D TVs have a feature that lets you set the mode like this?

Can you encode like this 1920x1080 30p or does it have to be 24p or something?

/ben

Petri Teittinen · August 16th, 2010, 10:11 AM

I don't think 1080p30 is a valid BD video format. You should convert it to either 23.976/24p or 59.94i. Latter one should be easier if the footage was originally shot in 30p.

Pavel Houda · August 16th, 2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Smith

OK so side by side is good. Do ALL 3D TVs have a feature that lets you set the mode like this?

Can you encode like this 1920x1080 30p or does it have to be 24p or something?

/ben

Don't worry about it. If you use good BD authoring S/W, e.g. Toast on Mac or Sony DVD Architect, etc... It will take care of the temporal characteristics for you.

Prech Marton · September 19th, 2010, 02:29 AM

I'm also interested in it:
Do ALL 3D TVs have a feature that lets you set the mode like this?

Pavel Houda · September 19th, 2010, 11:56 AM

All the 3DTVs complying with the standards in the US. I am not sure about Europe, but I would be surprised if they didn't do it. Unless they want to change the broadcast gear or bandwidths, they need to support the functionality, so it is just an issue of the UI (User Interface). The MVC needs higher bandwidth.

Giroud Francois · September 20th, 2010, 12:56 AM

some official specs say that for interlaced content you organize pictures top/bottom and for progressive, it is side by side, left eye is always the first.
you can create MVC movie with the free nokia MVC encoder.

Prech Marton · September 21st, 2010, 07:39 AM

a download the mvc encoder, but only .h .c and .dsp files are there.
Where is some executable?
And when i have the MVC coded file, is there any cheap or free app, that can create
the 3D BD structure or ISO file?

thanks

Giroud Francois · September 21st, 2010, 01:21 PM

you have to compile the exe from the sources (advised to use the visual C++ from microsoft).
I have compiled it, but had no time to test.
the input seems to be uncompressed YUV files, i still have to find what this exactly means, and how to produe such files easily.
I think there are some sample on the nokia website (while from low resolution for their mobile phone), but it can help to decipher what kind of format is expected.
if you really need i can post somewhere the compiled version.

August 16th, 2010, 07:34 AM	#1
Benjamin Smith Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 74	How do you make a 3D blu-ray disk that will play on a 3D TV with a 3D blu-ray ray pla Hello all Does anyone know how you can make 3D blu-ray disks that play on a 3DTV set? I have the left and right eye movies in 1920x1080 30p format; but I can't see any easy way of making the blu-ray disk! I am aware the format is fairly simple, I think it's just a side by side movie on an otherwise conventional blu-ray; but maybe you have to set a flag or something to "tell" the player it's 3D so it display on the user's 3DTV. Any help appreciated! /ben

September 19th, 2010, 02:29 AM	#8
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	I'm also interested in it: Do ALL 3D TVs have a feature that lets you set the mode like this? __________________ Relaxing clips with waterfalls and music, 3D photos, 3D videos: www.3d-video.hu

September 21st, 2010, 07:39 AM	#11
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	a download the mvc encoder, but only .h .c and .dsp files are there. Where is some executable? And when i have the MVC coded file, is there any cheap or free app, that can create the 3D BD structure or ISO file? thanks __________________ Relaxing clips with waterfalls and music, 3D photos, 3D videos: www.3d-video.hu

August 16th, 2010, 08:26 AM	#2
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Hi Ben its very easy and I made a blu-ray 3d dvd just an hour ago with 10 minutes of footage. I own the Sony 40 inch 3D tv. I made the 3D footage in Tim Dashwoods program in side by side mode and outputted a high quality side by side file. Brought this into toast 10 and burned a blu-ray DVD. Stuck it in the PS3, chose side by side from the Sony TV 3D menu and Bob's your uncle!

August 16th, 2010, 08:27 AM	#3
Pavel Houda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 352	Make squeezed sbs(side-by-side) or a/b (above/below) streams, author regular 2D disc and play on the TV. You will have to select the 3D mode and type of layout on the TV set manually.

August 16th, 2010, 08:40 AM	#4
Petri Teittinen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tuusula Posts: 31	You won't even need a 3D Blu-ray player if you create a SbS (Half) stream. You'll lose half of horizontal resolution though, but it looks pretty good regardless.

August 16th, 2010, 09:33 AM	#5
Benjamin Smith Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 74	OK so side by side is good. Do ALL 3D TVs have a feature that lets you set the mode like this? Can you encode like this 1920x1080 30p or does it have to be 24p or something? /ben

August 16th, 2010, 10:11 AM	#6
Petri Teittinen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tuusula Posts: 31	I don't think 1080p30 is a valid BD video format. You should convert it to either 23.976/24p or 59.94i. Latter one should be easier if the footage was originally shot in 30p.

September 19th, 2010, 11:56 AM	#9
Pavel Houda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 352	All the 3DTVs complying with the standards in the US. I am not sure about Europe, but I would be surprised if they didn't do it. Unless they want to change the broadcast gear or bandwidths, they need to support the functionality, so it is just an issue of the UI (User Interface). The MVC needs higher bandwidth.

September 20th, 2010, 12:56 AM	#10
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	some official specs say that for interlaced content you organize pictures top/bottom and for progressive, it is side by side, left eye is always the first. you can create MVC movie with the free nokia MVC encoder.

September 21st, 2010, 01:21 PM	#12
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	you have to compile the exe from the sources (advised to use the visual C++ from microsoft). I have compiled it, but had no time to test. the input seems to be uncompressed YUV files, i still have to find what this exactly means, and how to produe such files easily. I think there are some sample on the nokia website (while from low resolution for their mobile phone), but it can help to decipher what kind of format is expected. if you really need i can post somewhere the compiled version.