Loreo 3D shots, how to display?? at DVinfo.net

Bruce Schultz · June 9th, 2010, 02:20 PM

I've been fooling around a lot with this Loreo 3D Lens-In-A-Cap unit on my Canon 7D. I went to the aquarium the other day and shot some footage of fish in the tanks. What you get is a divided picture at full 1920x1080 res, kind of like what a side-by-side 3D display image comes out as, but with a less distinct middle of the frame delineation.

Anyone have any experience with these types of 3D images in regards to displaying them on a 3D HDTV or converting them to any other display format?

The shot I've attached is a 1920x1080 still frame if anyone want to experiment with it.

Adam Stanislav · June 9th, 2010, 03:25 PM

Not only do I have experience with Loreo, my Loreo footage was the original reason why I wrote the Bororo 3D plug-in for Sony Vegas. It was with my Loreo lens that I shot this video and with the Bororo 3D plug-in that I made it into a displayable video.

Bruce Schultz · June 13th, 2010, 02:21 PM

Adam, is this workflow for Loreo outlined in your Vegas docs? I'll fire up Vegas and check it out.

Adam Stanislav · June 13th, 2010, 08:06 PM

I don't believe I have ever gotten to describing that particular method, so here it is.

Put your video on the timeline. Go to the FX tab and select Bororo 3D Horizontal Adjustment. Drag the "vertical line" preset on the video. A vertical line will appear. Change the value of "Offset in Pixels" to find the dividing line between your left and right views (at least with my 35 mm adapter, it is never in the middle). Once satisfied, uncheck the "Vertical Line" checkbox and select the output method at the right end of the dialog. You can still change the value of the "Offset in Pixels" to refine it.

Philip Howells · June 14th, 2010, 02:28 AM

Bruce, I had one of the early Loreo 3D gadgets which was OK for prints etc using their viewer but the optics were poor and I sent it back to them. The new version looks improved.

The impediment to getting your material on to a 3DTV seems to be the lack of a box to send each half image to a shuttering 3DTV. I imagine you'd be content to live with the loss of resolution inherent in that system and to a vertical half frame.

Those considerations are why we didn't pursue the Loreo device for video..

Mathew Orman · July 19th, 2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Schultz

I've been fooling around a lot with this Loreo 3D Lens-In-A-Cap unit on my Canon 7D. I went to the aquarium the other day and shot some footage of fish in the tanks. What you get is a divided picture at full 1920x1080 res, kind of like what a side-by-side 3D display image comes out as, but with a less distinct middle of the frame delineation.

Anyone have any experience with these types of 3D images in regards to displaying them on a 3D HDTV or converting them to any other display format?

The shot I've attached is a 1920x1080 still frame if anyone want to experiment with it.

It is ready to be displayed on HD TV.
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Petri Teittinen · July 28th, 2010, 12:39 PM

Hello all,

first-time poster who actually found this forum when trying to track down Adam Stanislav. Adam, I just wanted to thank you for the Sony Vegas plug-ins and the Avisynth toolbox you created; your efforts are much appreciated!

Anyhoo, I wanted to share a clip I made with the Loreo 3D Lens-in-a-Cap 9005. It's one of my very first tests. I spent all of 5 seconds grading the shot so, yeah, don't expect any miracles. Image quality is nothing special either, due to 9005's plastic optics. You can download the clip here:

http://www.saitti.org/temppi/puut.wmv

It's in Side-by-Side (Half) configuration and plays nicely on a PC with Nvidia 3D Vision, and also on a 3D HDTV that supports file playback and SbS (H).

Folks familiar with the Loreo 9005 might notice something peculiar about the clip :)

Adam Stanislav · July 28th, 2010, 12:59 PM

You're quite welcome, Petri. I am glad you find it useful.

David Komer · August 23rd, 2016, 05:29 AM

Hey all - I know this thread is like 6 years old but it seems to be the best resource for what I'm after :)

I'm planning to do a small shoot on my 7D for an app which will play via GearVR. It seems GearVR supports "half side by side" mode, and I'd love to purchase the Loreo 9005a if it does the trick.

So... does it? I'm a little confused about the resolution it outputs and how half SBS mode works. In theory I would think that the imagery needs to be squeezed into the frames (e.g. not just that the Loreo captures 960x1080 video, but that those images are squeeezed?)

Unfortunately I don't have devices to test on yet - but I may be able to check the Gear VR soon :)

Along with advice, can anyone provide raw video captured on the 7D with the Loreo 9005 (or 9005a) so that I can play with it myself?

The other option is to rent a different cam, but I'd rather avoid that cost and invest in a new tool I can own... and keep pimping out my trusty ol' 7D :)

Thanks!

June 9th, 2010, 02:20 PM	#1
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Loreo 3D shots, how to display?? I've been fooling around a lot with this Loreo 3D Lens-In-A-Cap unit on my Canon 7D. I went to the aquarium the other day and shot some footage of fish in the tanks. What you get is a divided picture at full 1920x1080 res, kind of like what a side-by-side 3D display image comes out as, but with a less distinct middle of the frame delineation. Anyone have any experience with these types of 3D images in regards to displaying them on a 3D HDTV or converting them to any other display format? The shot I've attached is a 1920x1080 still frame if anyone want to experiment with it. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

August 23rd, 2016, 05:29 AM	#9
David Komer New Boot Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Giva 468, Israel Posts: 13	Re: Loreo 3D shots, how to display?? Hey all - I know this thread is like 6 years old but it seems to be the best resource for what I'm after :) I'm planning to do a small shoot on my 7D for an app which will play via GearVR. It seems GearVR supports "half side by side" mode, and I'd love to purchase the Loreo 9005a if it does the trick. So... does it? I'm a little confused about the resolution it outputs and how half SBS mode works. In theory I would think that the imagery needs to be squeezed into the frames (e.g. not just that the Loreo captures 960x1080 video, but that those images are squeeezed?) Unfortunately I don't have devices to test on yet - but I may be able to check the Gear VR soon :) Along with advice, can anyone provide raw video captured on the 7D with the Loreo 9005 (or 9005a) so that I can play with it myself? The other option is to rent a different cam, but I'd rather avoid that cost and invest in a new tool I can own... and keep pimping out my trusty ol' 7D :) Thanks!

June 9th, 2010, 03:25 PM	#2
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	Not only do I have experience with Loreo, my Loreo footage was the original reason why I wrote the Bororo 3D plug-in for Sony Vegas. It was with my Loreo lens that I shot this video and with the Bororo 3D plug-in that I made it into a displayable video.

June 13th, 2010, 02:21 PM	#3
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Adam, is this workflow for Loreo outlined in your Vegas docs? I'll fire up Vegas and check it out.

June 13th, 2010, 08:06 PM	#4
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	I don't believe I have ever gotten to describing that particular method, so here it is. Put your video on the timeline. Go to the FX tab and select Bororo 3D Horizontal Adjustment. Drag the "vertical line" preset on the video. A vertical line will appear. Change the value of "Offset in Pixels" to find the dividing line between your left and right views (at least with my 35 mm adapter, it is never in the middle). Once satisfied, uncheck the "Vertical Line" checkbox and select the output method at the right end of the dialog. You can still change the value of the "Offset in Pixels" to refine it.

June 14th, 2010, 02:28 AM	#5
Philip Howells Trustee Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 1,212	Bruce, I had one of the early Loreo 3D gadgets which was OK for prints etc using their viewer but the optics were poor and I sent it back to them. The new version looks improved. The impediment to getting your material on to a 3DTV seems to be the lack of a box to send each half image to a shuttering 3DTV. I imagine you'd be content to live with the loss of resolution inherent in that system and to a vertical half frame. Those considerations are why we didn't pursue the Loreo device for video..

July 28th, 2010, 12:39 PM	#7
Petri Teittinen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tuusula Posts: 31	Hello all, first-time poster who actually found this forum when trying to track down Adam Stanislav. Adam, I just wanted to thank you for the Sony Vegas plug-ins and the Avisynth toolbox you created; your efforts are much appreciated! Anyhoo, I wanted to share a clip I made with the Loreo 3D Lens-in-a-Cap 9005. It's one of my very first tests. I spent all of 5 seconds grading the shot so, yeah, don't expect any miracles. Image quality is nothing special either, due to 9005's plastic optics. You can download the clip here: http://www.saitti.org/temppi/puut.wmv It's in Side-by-Side (Half) configuration and plays nicely on a PC with Nvidia 3D Vision, and also on a 3D HDTV that supports file playback and SbS (H). Folks familiar with the Loreo 9005 might notice something peculiar about the clip :)

July 28th, 2010, 12:59 PM	#8
Adam Stanislav Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rhinelander, WI Posts: 1,258	You're quite welcome, Petri. I am glad you find it useful.