Sony NEX-VG10 + nanoFlash Working at DVinfo.net

Dan Keaton · January 3rd, 2011, 01:27 PM

Dear Friends,

Mr. Gerardo Campos has been testing the NEX-VG10 with the nanoFlash.

He has been able to obtain an HDMI output free of icons and viewfinder detail, and free of the "Standby" icon, etc.

And he has proven that the NEX-VG10 actaully puts out 1080psf29.97 (1080p30).

Using the features of the nanoFlash, one can obtain 1080p23.976 (1080p24) with audio.

We expect to be able to obtain 1080p25 from the 1080i50 version of the NEX-VG10, but this has not been tested yet.

Dan Keaton · January 3rd, 2011, 03:22 PM

Dear Friends,

Here are some additional instructions provided by Gerardo:

1. To remove all the viewfinder info in the screen you must push the button DISP on the camera,
... but if you still have the STBY in your screen, you have two ways to take it off:

A. Start to record in camera.

B. Remove the memory card from the camera.

The other important thing is that the camera must have "SHOOT W/O LENS" enabled

In the nanoFlash he has:

System|Video|Record PSF>Prog enabled

And to record 24p he has:

Video|Crank 24 24 which sets the base frame rate to 24 and a crank rate of 24.

Michael Galvan · January 3rd, 2011, 08:48 PM

Wow... I find this to be quite interesting!

Does this produce true 23.976 footage with the proper temporal signature?

Steve Mullen · January 3rd, 2011, 10:24 PM

The vg10 does 25 or 30. He likely is only recording 24 frames butq it's not 24 per second because the timebase remains 1/30th second.

Michael Galvan · January 3rd, 2011, 10:36 PM

Yeah, that's what I am thinking too.

I'd like to hear his opinion on its look.

William Hohauser · January 5th, 2011, 07:24 AM

I find this very sketchy. The fact is that a still life with a very slow focal change is not going to tell us enough about how the frame rate is being recorded. If he was on camera talking, it would be better so at least we could see if the frames were being dropped or held over. Or a simple medium speed pan.

Dan Keaton · January 5th, 2011, 08:56 AM

Dear William,

This may not be what you actually need, but there is some motion in this shot.

It will appear to be static at first.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...ml#post1604300

William Hohauser · January 5th, 2011, 09:20 AM

Thanks for the link. It looks a little choppy but it's hard to tell with the way the shot is set up. I can't go frame by frame to check to see what is happening. Perhaps there's a way with Vimeo that I am overlooking.

January 3rd, 2011, 01:27 PM	#1
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Sony NEX-VG10 + nanoFlash Working Dear Friends, Mr. Gerardo Campos has been testing the NEX-VG10 with the nanoFlash. He has been able to obtain an HDMI output free of icons and viewfinder detail, and free of the "Standby" icon, etc. And he has proven that the NEX-VG10 actaully puts out 1080psf29.97 (1080p30). Using the features of the nanoFlash, one can obtain 1080p23.976 (1080p24) with audio. We expect to be able to obtain 1080p25 from the 1080i50 version of the NEX-VG10, but this has not been tested yet. test nanoflash + nex-vg10 on Vimeo __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 3rd, 2011, 03:22 PM	#2
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Friends, Here are some additional instructions provided by Gerardo: 1. To remove all the viewfinder info in the screen you must push the button DISP on the camera, ... but if you still have the STBY in your screen, you have two ways to take it off: A. Start to record in camera. B. Remove the memory card from the camera. The other important thing is that the camera must have "SHOOT W/O LENS" enabled In the nanoFlash he has: System\|Video\|Record PSF>Prog enabled And to record 24p he has: Video\|Crank 24 24 which sets the base frame rate to 24 and a crank rate of 24. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 3rd, 2011, 08:48 PM	#3
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	Wow... I find this to be quite interesting! Does this produce true 23.976 footage with the proper temporal signature? __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

January 3rd, 2011, 10:24 PM	#4
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	The vg10 does 25 or 30. He likely is only recording 24 frames butq it's not 24 per second because the timebase remains 1/30th second. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

January 3rd, 2011, 10:36 PM	#5
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	Yeah, that's what I am thinking too. I'd like to hear his opinion on its look. __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

January 5th, 2011, 07:24 AM	#6
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	I find this very sketchy. The fact is that a still life with a very slow focal change is not going to tell us enough about how the frame rate is being recorded. If he was on camera talking, it would be better so at least we could see if the frames were being dropped or held over. Or a simple medium speed pan. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

January 5th, 2011, 08:56 AM	#7
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear William, This may not be what you actually need, but there is some motion in this shot. It will appear to be static at first. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...ml#post1604300 __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 5th, 2011, 09:20 AM	#8
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Thanks for the link. It looks a little choppy but it's hard to tell with the way the shot is set up. I can't go frame by frame to check to see what is happening. Perhaps there's a way with Vimeo that I am overlooking. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation