REVISED v.2.0.4 -- Canon 5D Mark II 2.0.4 Firmware (24p) Available

Erik Andersen · March 22nd, 2010, 10:05 AM

Well, I can report that my Kingston 32GB 133x cards I've been using since day one are no longer able to keep up. My guess is it's because of the uptick in data rate with the new firmware. To save $ I went with slower cards and never had any problems. I compared them head to head with UDMA and saw no difference in image quality at all - though obviously a big difference in speed.

But now after seeing the buffer fill up completely and an instant later have the camera stop recording, I'm retiring the 133x cards and moving up to 300X. Can't complain about this amazing firmware though.

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 22nd, 2010, 10:16 AM

Erik, one of my cards is a Kingston 16GB 133X and I've not noticed any difference before or after the firmware update in terms of CF performance. My 32GB cards are mainly 400X Transcend CF, but even though they are of course faster speeds I've not noticed any problems in 5D performance swapping and changing with the Kingston.

Erik Andersen · March 22nd, 2010, 11:02 AM

We had cameras fill the buffer and stop recording several times yesterday, first shoot with the new firmware, having never had a problem before on our seven 133x cards. We shot for hours and really gave the cards a workout, and they failed too often. These are no longer an acceptable speed for the 5D IMO.

Luc De Wandel · March 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM

That's strange; everything works fine with my 16 gigabyte, 133x Transcend cards...

Nigel Barker · March 23rd, 2010, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc De Wandel

That's strange; everything works fine with my 16 gigabyte, 133x Transcend cards...

I just filled two 16GB 133x Transcend cards with video yesterday & they worked fine too.

Tomeu Santandreu · March 24th, 2010, 05:57 AM

Erik.

I updated my 5D yesterday and tried with my Kingston 16GB 133x.

No problems detected, I recorded a 7 minute video with no interruption.

Tomeu Santandreu

Pedro Martins · March 31st, 2010, 11:19 AM

Erik

I have a 16 Gb Kingston elite pro 133x, that after the firmware update, start to have the same problem. it only stops once after the buffer filled up, and i got many freeze frames on the footage.

Erik Andersen · March 31st, 2010, 11:43 AM

Wow freeze frames. We haven't had that yet, but continue to suffer from the buffer rapidly filling up and stopping the recording. It's just an occasional occurrence, but often enough to be dangerous!

Tomeu Santandreu · April 14th, 2010, 01:33 AM

Hi guys!

I heve noticed the problem too with my Kingston 16gb 133x.

The video stopped after a few seconds of recording (3 or 4 seconds).

But with the same card Im able to record longer videos (even 7 minutes).

I think is a random problem if was due to the buffer you wouldn't be able to record longer videos.

I remember another problem it ocurred me once was with 1.1.0 fimrware. When testing ISO 12800 I got missing frames during a pan

Brandon Barnard · September 11th, 2010, 12:19 AM

Ok,

I just did the update to 2.0.7 on my cinematographers camera and we were doing some test shoots. It seems that everything works fine except I am a little confused. It seems that when we go into movie mode and set it up to record in 1920(24fps), the shutter speed seems to move when we adjust aperture. Are we doing something wrong? I thought that the shutter speed should be set on 24 but it looks like the lowest it will go to is 30.

Can anyone clear this up for me and tell me what I am missing or at least point me in the right direction?

Thanks a ton in advance. I really need to figure this out because I have to shoot this Friday.

Richard Crook · September 11th, 2010, 07:07 AM

Are you set to manual? Also you need to set shutter to 1/50.

Visit: Complete Idiot’s Guide to the Canon 5d Mk II; Adobe Premiere Edition (Updated for CS5 and firmware 2.0.7) - Crooked Path Films Blog

Brandon Barnard · September 13th, 2010, 04:30 PM

Richard,

Amazing information. You answered so many of my questions with one foul swoop. Thank you. I do have one more for you though. In your blog, you recommend to shoot 1/50 shutter speed. Will this achieve the 24fps look the best? Also, we shot in the desert all day sunday and I feel like the shutter still moves around every once in a while even though we are in manual and only adjusting stops. Any Ideas?

March 22nd, 2010, 10:05 AM	#76
Erik Andersen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 218	133X is now too slow Well, I can report that my Kingston 32GB 133x cards I've been using since day one are no longer able to keep up. My guess is it's because of the uptick in data rate with the new firmware. To save $ I went with slower cards and never had any problems. I compared them head to head with UDMA and saw no difference in image quality at all - though obviously a big difference in speed. But now after seeing the buffer fill up completely and an instant later have the camera stop recording, I'm retiring the 133x cards and moving up to 300X. Can't complain about this amazing firmware though. __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \|\| L-Series Lenses \|\| Steadicam Pilot \|\| Final Cut Studio www.lovestorymedia.com

March 22nd, 2010, 10:16 AM	#77
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Erik, one of my cards is a Kingston 16GB 133X and I've not noticed any difference before or after the firmware update in terms of CF performance. My 32GB cards are mainly 400X Transcend CF, but even though they are of course faster speeds I've not noticed any problems in 5D performance swapping and changing with the Kingston. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 22nd, 2010, 11:02 AM	#78
Erik Andersen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 218	We had cameras fill the buffer and stop recording several times yesterday, first shoot with the new firmware, having never had a problem before on our seven 133x cards. We shot for hours and really gave the cards a workout, and they failed too often. These are no longer an acceptable speed for the 5D IMO. __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \|\| L-Series Lenses \|\| Steadicam Pilot \|\| Final Cut Studio www.lovestorymedia.com

March 31st, 2010, 11:43 AM	#83
Erik Andersen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 218	Wow freeze frames. We haven't had that yet, but continue to suffer from the buffer rapidly filling up and stopping the recording. It's just an occasional occurrence, but often enough to be dangerous! __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \|\| L-Series Lenses \|\| Steadicam Pilot \|\| Final Cut Studio www.lovestorymedia.com

September 11th, 2010, 07:07 AM	#86
Richard Crook Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 74	Are you set to manual? Also you need to set shutter to 1/50. Visit: Complete Idiot’s Guide to the Canon 5d Mk II; Adobe Premiere Edition (Updated for CS5 and firmware 2.0.7) - Crooked Path Films Blog __________________ Richard Allen Crook www.crookedpathfilms.com

March 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM	#79
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	That's strange; everything works fine with my 16 gigabyte, 133x Transcend cards...

March 24th, 2010, 05:57 AM	#81
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	Erik. I updated my 5D yesterday and tried with my Kingston 16GB 133x. No problems detected, I recorded a 7 minute video with no interruption. Tomeu Santandreu

March 31st, 2010, 11:19 AM	#82
Pedro Martins Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon-Portugal Posts: 35	Erik I have a 16 Gb Kingston elite pro 133x, that after the firmware update, start to have the same problem. it only stops once after the buffer filled up, and i got many freeze frames on the footage.

April 14th, 2010, 01:33 AM	#84
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	Hi guys! I heve noticed the problem too with my Kingston 16gb 133x. The video stopped after a few seconds of recording (3 or 4 seconds). But with the same card Im able to record longer videos (even 7 minutes). I think is a random problem if was due to the buffer you wouldn't be able to record longer videos. I remember another problem it ocurred me once was with 1.1.0 fimrware. When testing ISO 12800 I got missing frames during a pan

September 11th, 2010, 12:19 AM	#85
Brandon Barnard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 120	Ok, I just did the update to 2.0.7 on my cinematographers camera and we were doing some test shoots. It seems that everything works fine except I am a little confused. It seems that when we go into movie mode and set it up to record in 1920(24fps), the shutter speed seems to move when we adjust aperture. Are we doing something wrong? I thought that the shutter speed should be set on 24 but it looks like the lowest it will go to is 30. Can anyone clear this up for me and tell me what I am missing or at least point me in the right direction? Thanks a ton in advance. I really need to figure this out because I have to shoot this Friday.

September 13th, 2010, 04:30 PM	#87
Brandon Barnard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 120	Richard, Amazing information. You answered so many of my questions with one foul swoop. Thank you. I do have one more for you though. In your blog, you recommend to shoot 1/50 shutter speed. Will this achieve the 24fps look the best? Also, we shot in the desert all day sunday and I feel like the shutter still moves around every once in a while even though we are in manual and only adjusting stops. Any Ideas?