Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Edward Troxel · February 3rd, 2003, 04:15 PM

Actually, the AC3 plugin doesn't "require" DVD Architect, it just comes WITH it. You could still buy the AC3 plugin separately if you only buy Vegas 4.

Dan Keaton · February 9th, 2003, 04:16 AM

Does anyone know if the new Vegas Video 4.0 support 4 channel audio capture?

Nathan Gifford · February 9th, 2003, 09:13 PM

Unless they just added it, no to 4-track. You can added Scenalyzer which will give you 4-track as an add-on.

Edward Troxel · February 10th, 2003, 10:19 AM

No it does not allow capturing of the second stereo track. Buy Scenalyzer Live (about $33) which can capture Video + Stereo1 into an AVI file while simultaneously capturing Stereo2 into a separate .WAV file over firewire.

Dan Keaton · February 10th, 2003, 10:27 AM

Thank you for the information.

I will buy scenalyzer, it seems to be a great program at a reasonable price.

I could not determine if the 5.1 support in Vegas Video 4.0 allowed 4-channel audio to be captured. Based on the responses I have received, the answer appears to be no.

My thanks to Edward and Nathan.

Zac Stein · February 11th, 2003, 07:58 AM

Heya all,

Need a hand understanding this, i outputted files with vegas video 4 as dvd mpeg2's which it said were for dvd architect.

So finally after i prepared my dvd and whatnot within dvd architect, it now wants to recompress them again and take another 2 hours at it, any ideas why it is doing this?

Shouldnt the file be ready for burning and no need recompression again?

Zac

I fixed up the problem, it had defaulted the project to NTSC and wanted to convert.

Sorry all.

If you want can delete thread.

Ray Edge · February 11th, 2003, 12:06 PM

How do you like VV4 and DVDA so far?

I am thinking about buying them but wanted to get some opinions first. Did you use VV3 before or other authoring software?

Thanks you.

Rob Lohman · February 11th, 2003, 01:18 PM

Download the Demo versions from their website yourself
to get a good impression what it can and cannot do! You can
even download the full manuals for both products.

Always test before your buy. And test here is a hands on test
done by yourself!

Zac Stein · February 12th, 2003, 06:20 AM

Heya all,

Did a search and didn't find much. Is there a way to open a vv3 or vv4 timeline in adobe after effects?

I know with premiere it is possible and for avid there is a plugin, just wondering if anything similar is available for vegas video.

Or is there another way?

Thanks all,

Zac

Brian M. Dickman · February 12th, 2003, 10:22 AM

There's no direct way to access the timeline back and forth. You have to render the section you'd like to use After Effects on, edit it, and then bring it back in. Rendering to DV is okay, but uncompressed QuickTime is optimal.

Edward Troxel · February 12th, 2003, 03:21 PM

Check out the following message from another forum:

"This just-released plug-in for After Effects adds the ability to import Sonic Foundry's Vegas EDL files into After Effects as a Composition (similar to importing a Premiere Project into After Effects).

The plug-in was originally developed in-house to allow us to rough cut video in Vegas, then import and finish in After Effects. For more details goto www.forgedimages.com and click under "After Effects Plug-Ins."

It may do what you want.

Jay Gladwell · February 15th, 2003, 07:46 AM

"In the never ending war of which NLE is the best, it appears that Sonic Foundry has quietly set into motion a program that threatens to rock the NLE world and turn it all on its head. Jim Harvey takes a good look at Vegas 4 to see what everyone's been talking about."

Don Parrish · February 15th, 2003, 08:01 AM

I am not a pro editor, so let me ask this please. Why does a person need a vectrocope and histogram, also, what the heck is a vectroscope, and if you didn't have one and wanted broadcast quality video, where would video fall short without them. Also, is VV4 not a big project tool, several references have been made to the fact it is not?

Thanks
Donny

Jay Gladwell · February 15th, 2003, 08:07 AM

In order for video to be broadcast and look good, it has to fall within certain perameters, otherwise the colors bleed and/or get clipped, the audio buzzes--all sorts of ugy things can happen. The various scopes allow you to "see" the video signal and make sure it's within the NTSC broadcast limits (in a nutshell).

Edward Troxel · February 15th, 2003, 09:18 AM

Vegas works great for long form projects. I have made many 2 hour plus projects using Vegas. The most complained about problem was the lack of bins in the media pool. These have been added in Vegas 4. I don't think you will have any problems with a long form video.

February 9th, 2003, 04:16 AM	#32
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Vegas Video and 4 Channel Audio Does anyone know if the new Vegas Video 4.0 support 4 channel audio capture? __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

February 9th, 2003, 09:13 PM	#33
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Unless they just added it, no to 4-track. You can added Scenalyzer which will give you 4-track as an add-on. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

February 10th, 2003, 10:27 AM	#35
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Thank you for the information. I will buy scenalyzer, it seems to be a great program at a reasonable price. I could not determine if the 5.1 support in Vegas Video 4.0 allowed 4-channel audio to be captured. Based on the responses I have received, the answer appears to be no. My thanks to Edward and Nathan. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

February 11th, 2003, 07:58 AM	#36
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Help with VV4 and dvd arch Heya all, Need a hand understanding this, i outputted files with vegas video 4 as dvd mpeg2's which it said were for dvd architect. So finally after i prepared my dvd and whatnot within dvd architect, it now wants to recompress them again and take another 2 hours at it, any ideas why it is doing this? Shouldnt the file be ready for burning and no need recompression again? Zac I fixed up the problem, it had defaulted the project to NTSC and wanted to convert. Sorry all. If you want can delete thread.

February 11th, 2003, 01:18 PM	#38
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Download the Demo versions from their website yourself to get a good impression what it can and cannot do! You can even download the full manuals for both products. Always test before your buy. And test here is a hands on test done by yourself! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 3rd, 2003, 04:15 PM	#31
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Actually, the AC3 plugin doesn't "require" DVD Architect, it just comes WITH it. You could still buy the AC3 plugin separately if you only buy Vegas 4.

February 10th, 2003, 10:19 AM	#34
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	No it does not allow capturing of the second stereo track. Buy Scenalyzer Live (about $33) which can capture Video + Stereo1 into an AVI file while simultaneously capturing Stereo2 into a separate .WAV file over firewire.

February 11th, 2003, 12:06 PM	#37
Ray Edge Tourist Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1	How do you like VV4 and DVDA so far? I am thinking about buying them but wanted to get some opinions first. Did you use VV3 before or other authoring software? Thanks you.

February 12th, 2003, 06:20 AM	#39
Zac Stein Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 730	Opening a VV3 or 4 timeline in AFX Heya all, Did a search and didn't find much. Is there a way to open a vv3 or vv4 timeline in adobe after effects? I know with premiere it is possible and for avid there is a plugin, just wondering if anything similar is available for vegas video. Or is there another way? Thanks all, Zac

February 12th, 2003, 10:22 AM	#40
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	There's no direct way to access the timeline back and forth. You have to render the section you'd like to use After Effects on, edit it, and then bring it back in. Rendering to DV is okay, but uncompressed QuickTime is optimal.

February 12th, 2003, 03:21 PM	#41
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Check out the following message from another forum: "This just-released plug-in for After Effects adds the ability to import Sonic Foundry's Vegas EDL files into After Effects as a Composition (similar to importing a Premiere Project into After Effects). The plug-in was originally developed in-house to allow us to rough cut video in Vegas, then import and finish in After Effects. For more details goto www.forgedimages.com and click under "After Effects Plug-Ins." It may do what you want.

February 15th, 2003, 07:46 AM	#42
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	Vegas 4.0 Review -- "WOW!" "In the never ending war of which NLE is the best, it appears that Sonic Foundry has quietly set into motion a program that threatens to rock the NLE world and turn it all on its head. Jim Harvey takes a good look at Vegas 4 to see what everyone's been talking about."

February 15th, 2003, 08:01 AM	#43
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	I am not a pro editor, so let me ask this please. Why does a person need a vectrocope and histogram, also, what the heck is a vectroscope, and if you didn't have one and wanted broadcast quality video, where would video fall short without them. Also, is VV4 not a big project tool, several references have been made to the fact it is not? Thanks Donny

February 15th, 2003, 08:07 AM	#44
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	In order for video to be broadcast and look good, it has to fall within certain perameters, otherwise the colors bleed and/or get clipped, the audio buzzes--all sorts of ugy things can happen. The various scopes allow you to "see" the video signal and make sure it's within the NTSC broadcast limits (in a nutshell).

February 15th, 2003, 09:18 AM	#45
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas works great for long form projects. I have made many 2 hour plus projects using Vegas. The most complained about problem was the lack of bins in the media pool. These have been added in Vegas 4. I don't think you will have any problems with a long form video.