Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Dan Lahav · November 30th, 2003, 01:08 PM

I've been trying to add videos from Vegas to MS frontpage but for some reason they do not want to play. I tried rendering as AVI, MOV, MPEG and none work. However, when i render a movie in premiere and drag it into FrontPage, it works perfectly. Does anyone know what this can be?? Thanks!

Glen Elliott · November 30th, 2003, 06:27 PM

Hmmm this worries me. I'm going to be doing video web work for a guy and he's using Front Page. Hmmm.

What template are you using? Are you making "any" changes to them?

Edward Troxel · November 30th, 2003, 08:59 PM

Have you tried WMV?

For the others, compare settings. Make sure you use the same settings in Vegas you are in Premiere. Vegas produces perfectly good files. I don't use Front Page but have no problems using files generated by Vegas on my web page.

Matt Iserman · November 30th, 2003, 09:30 PM

I use Frontpage 2002 and have not encountered this problem at all. As such, I cannot help Dan with his problem but can reassure Glen that it does work and this may just be an isolated incident.

Dan Lahav · November 30th, 2003, 09:38 PM

i figured out that i needed to use a script in order to put *.mov in frontpage. Thanks anyways guys!

Peter Jefferson · December 1st, 2003, 06:38 AM

Hey all, just wondering if anyone has had issues with this:

I recently did a few different variations and after reprocessing (and rendering to raw dv avi) I have noticed some degredation in the footage, which is quite prominent..

Now it's more noticable on material which i converted FROM mpg to avi, however there is SOME on the raw AVI's.

Any ideas as to what would be a good setting to reduce these vertical lines???

They look like scanlines, however they're vertical...

By the way, im in PAL land if that makes any difference....

Edward Troxel · December 1st, 2003, 08:32 AM

Can you show us a sample (before, after, what was done besides just rendering - i.e. any effects applied)?

Frank Ladner · December 1st, 2003, 04:06 PM

Edward: You brought up something interesting. I am trying
to output a short animation with multiple audio tracks (stereo
2.0 and Dolby 5.1), using DVD Architect. The animation may
be short enough to include the audio twice, but then how do
I set it up to switch between the different tracks?

Thanks!

Edward Troxel · December 1st, 2003, 08:38 PM

You would include the entire video twice and provide two buttons on the menu - one for one audio track and one for the other.

Dave Largent · December 2nd, 2003, 04:00 AM

How is Vegas in it's output of frame grabs from interlaced footage?
I'v made some stills. I know to set it to "full/best". Is it really necessary to also change the properties setting to "interpolate" for best results, or are all stills interpolated regardless?
Anyone noticed any quality improvement using PNG over JPG?
Haven't noticed any difference myself.
Any other hints for best results?

Frank Ladner · December 2nd, 2003, 07:22 AM

Edward: Thanks! I see what you mean now.

On the DVDs where you can go to options, even while the
movie is playing, and switch the sound between 2.0 and 5.1,
how is that accomplished? This is something that I maybe
could not do with DVD Architect, but I was curious about how
the pros do it.

Thanks!

Edward Troxel · December 2nd, 2003, 09:09 AM

Probably your best solution would be to use one of the scripts that output images. They generally change all of the settings necessary for the best possible output and then reset the settings back to the original settings upon completion. There are several different versions available.

As for the format, JPG is lossy - PNG is not. So, PNG should be better. However, if you're happy with the JPG's, use them (I'm ususally happy with the JPGs.)

Having said all of the above, I usually just change to BEST - FULL, click on the save picture button, and save as JPG's.

Edward Troxel · December 2nd, 2003, 09:12 AM

That would require an authoring program that allowed true multiple audio tracks. There may also be other requirements above even that. I'm sure the DVDs with this capability were NOT created with a $200 authoring program - probably more like $20,000!

Frank Ladner · December 2nd, 2003, 09:18 AM

I guess that's about right. I figured Adobe Encore would
be able to do it, but I haven't tried it, and I haven't heard
too very much about it. (It is only the first version, though.)
So it looks like duplicate movies then.

Thanks for your help, Edward!

Peter Jefferson · December 2nd, 2003, 10:00 AM

some colour correction was applied, but not enough to be that noticable...

thing is it also happens on non affected files...

i THINK it may be because the clip i was looking at was converted to MPG2, then reconverted back to avi... but ive done that before and have ever seen this...

November 30th, 2003, 01:08 PM	#1621
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Vegas movies will not work with frontpage I've been trying to add videos from Vegas to MS frontpage but for some reason they do not want to play. I tried rendering as AVI, MOV, MPEG and none work. However, when i render a movie in premiere and drag it into FrontPage, it works perfectly. Does anyone know what this can be?? Thanks!

December 1st, 2003, 06:38 AM	#1626
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Vertical Smears on DVAVI after render Hey all, just wondering if anyone has had issues with this: I recently did a few different variations and after reprocessing (and rendering to raw dv avi) I have noticed some degredation in the footage, which is quite prominent.. Now it's more noticable on material which i converted FROM mpg to avi, however there is SOME on the raw AVI's. Any ideas as to what would be a good setting to reduce these vertical lines??? They look like scanlines, however they're vertical... By the way, im in PAL land if that makes any difference....

December 2nd, 2003, 04:00 AM	#1630
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	Stills How is Vegas in it's output of frame grabs from interlaced footage? I'v made some stills. I know to set it to "full/best". Is it really necessary to also change the properties setting to "interpolate" for best results, or are all stills interpolated regardless? Anyone noticed any quality improvement using PNG over JPG? Haven't noticed any difference myself. Any other hints for best results?

November 30th, 2003, 06:27 PM	#1622
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Hmmm this worries me. I'm going to be doing video web work for a guy and he's using Front Page. Hmmm. What template are you using? Are you making "any" changes to them?

November 30th, 2003, 08:59 PM	#1623
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Have you tried WMV? For the others, compare settings. Make sure you use the same settings in Vegas you are in Premiere. Vegas produces perfectly good files. I don't use Front Page but have no problems using files generated by Vegas on my web page.

November 30th, 2003, 09:30 PM	#1624
Matt Iserman Tourist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lino Lakes, MN Posts: 1	I use Frontpage 2002 and have not encountered this problem at all. As such, I cannot help Dan with his problem but can reassure Glen that it does work and this may just be an isolated incident.

November 30th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#1625
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	i figured out that i needed to use a script in order to put *.mov in frontpage. Thanks anyways guys!

December 1st, 2003, 08:32 AM	#1627
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Can you show us a sample (before, after, what was done besides just rendering - i.e. any effects applied)?

December 1st, 2003, 04:06 PM	#1628
Frank Ladner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Poplarville, MS Posts: 453	Edward: You brought up something interesting. I am trying to output a short animation with multiple audio tracks (stereo 2.0 and Dolby 5.1), using DVD Architect. The animation may be short enough to include the audio twice, but then how do I set it up to switch between the different tracks? Thanks!

December 1st, 2003, 08:38 PM	#1629
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You would include the entire video twice and provide two buttons on the menu - one for one audio track and one for the other.

December 2nd, 2003, 07:22 AM	#1631
Frank Ladner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Poplarville, MS Posts: 453	Edward: Thanks! I see what you mean now. On the DVDs where you can go to options, even while the movie is playing, and switch the sound between 2.0 and 5.1, how is that accomplished? This is something that I maybe could not do with DVD Architect, but I was curious about how the pros do it. Thanks!

December 2nd, 2003, 09:09 AM	#1632
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Probably your best solution would be to use one of the scripts that output images. They generally change all of the settings necessary for the best possible output and then reset the settings back to the original settings upon completion. There are several different versions available. As for the format, JPG is lossy - PNG is not. So, PNG should be better. However, if you're happy with the JPG's, use them (I'm ususally happy with the JPGs.) Having said all of the above, I usually just change to BEST - FULL, click on the save picture button, and save as JPG's.

December 2nd, 2003, 09:12 AM	#1633
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	That would require an authoring program that allowed true multiple audio tracks. There may also be other requirements above even that. I'm sure the DVDs with this capability were NOT created with a $200 authoring program - probably more like $20,000!

December 2nd, 2003, 09:18 AM	#1634
Frank Ladner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Poplarville, MS Posts: 453	I guess that's about right. I figured Adobe Encore would be able to do it, but I haven't tried it, and I haven't heard too very much about it. (It is only the first version, though.) So it looks like duplicate movies then. Thanks for your help, Edward!

December 2nd, 2003, 10:00 AM	#1635
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	some colour correction was applied, but not enough to be that noticable... thing is it also happens on non affected files... i THINK it may be because the clip i was looking at was converted to MPG2, then reconverted back to avi... but ive done that before and have ever seen this...