Vegas Video discussions from 2003

Bryan Beasleigh · November 16th, 2003, 09:06 PM

If everything else checks, remove all but the necessary peripherals and try it . If it works then install them one at a time until the problem returns.

I had problems with available system resources because of a USB multifunction device. ( HP office jet)

Mike Moncrief · November 17th, 2003, 12:20 PM

Thanks Edward, you nailed it as usual!!

thanks,
Mike m

Gints Klimanis · November 17th, 2003, 01:56 PM

The normalize function isn't a good tool for volume increases because if the audio has clipped digitally even once, it won't work at all. You're better off using a compressor function and raising the volume level, although that requires quite a bit of work to
set levels for all of the tracks you're working with.

I really wish these DVD editors had some functions to rate the
audio tracks in 2 levels: short time Peak counter/rater (1/20 second), long time peak counter/rater (1 second) and full track counter/rater.

Glen Elliott · November 17th, 2003, 10:30 PM

I captured some 24p (standard) footage and found it played back choppy in the preview window.... 9 fps to be exact (@ full size/best). I thought 24p standard was still 29.97 frames a second...what would cause it to play choppy? I opened up a new project using the 24p template and it seemed to play fine.
?! Any ideas?! ....keeping in mind this is 24p standard.

Torsten Blomfeldt · November 18th, 2003, 03:39 AM

1. In my film I wish to freeze my last clip. How do I do that?

2. I have a firewall and antivirusprogram. Is it a good thing to shut it down everytime I work in Vegas? (Sometimes I have forget to shut it down but no problem in Vegas.)

Tor Salomonsen · November 18th, 2003, 03:39 AM

Because you have unlimited tracks in Vegas you can sort audio that requires the same kind of treatment on separate tracks, and even channel some of those track to different buses. Then you can apply FXs on both track and bus level. Have a look at the audio signal flow diagram in the manual.

What you also can do is to set up the default track FX and/or create FX packages with typical presets that you normally will use, and then just select/deselect them as required.

In detail:
Drop Graphic Dynamics on an audio track. Select and tweak some different presets and save them. Rightclick the track header, click on Set default track porperties, and then OK. Next time you create an audio track it will have Graphic Dynamics selected and you can just pick the appropriate preset.
OR:
Set up a collection of audio FXs and tweak them for one typical use you may need (music, voiceover, etc). Save as FX package. Next time you can just selct th package and it will replace the FX already on your track and install itself, tweaks and all. Repeat for other typical uses.
Of course you can still fine-tune the tweaks after that, but you will have a relevant starting-point.

Ralph Morris · November 18th, 2003, 06:46 AM

Thanks to all for the inputs. Vegas looks like it will be my choice. It has more tools than I will ever be able to use, but it's a little daunting coming from a Pinnacle Studio 8 background.

Edward Troxel · November 18th, 2003, 08:47 AM

To slow down, freeze, or reverse, use a Velocity Envelope.

When capturing or printing to tape, it would probably be a good idea to shutdown the firewall and antivirus programs. For normal editing it probably won't matter (and *may* not matter on capturing or printing either - only tests will determine that).

Personally, my editing and internet computers are two separate machines. My editing computers never see the internet so they have no need for a firewall or antivirus program.

Joe Sacher · November 18th, 2003, 10:13 AM

Check out EndItAll. This progam allows you to setup which processes should be shutdown or killed. I have it setup for editing, so when I start editing, I close/kill everything I won't need.

Wade McGee · November 19th, 2003, 12:37 AM

Mark,
Kudos, you did a smokin' job with what looks to be the same tools we all have. Once again great job. I would also like to get additional info on you PS training disks. Please email me off the boards with info:

me1313@mindspring.com

Thanks,
Wade

Dale Nicholson · November 19th, 2003, 11:41 AM

I will eventually be using Vegas 4.0 to edit 24p or 24pa footage and will need to output to dvd w/ 5.1 sound and include a commentary track. For that reason, I was leaning toward DVD Architect; however, it's my understanding that multiple audio tracks, for a director's commentary track, isn't possible in Architect. Ouch!
Now what authoring program should I purchase? Isn't there an available plug-in for Architect to enable a commentary track? I guess it's on to other 5.1, AC3 encoding software that has multiple languages capability.

Edward Troxel · November 19th, 2003, 12:15 PM

Correct. DVDA does not currently offer multiple audio tracks. If the video is short enough - it could be included twice. Otherwise you'll have to look at another product that does offer this feature.

Glen Elliott · November 19th, 2003, 01:31 PM

Hope I didn't stump EVERYONE. *yikes*

Torsten Blomfeldt · November 19th, 2003, 01:46 PM

<<<To slow down, freeze, or reverse, use a Velocity Envelope.>>>

I know how to slow down and reverse but how do I do to freeze a videoclip with Velocity Envelope?

I want to freeze a videoclip and then have a text rolling there.

Edward Troxel · November 19th, 2003, 03:24 PM

ZERO percent as the speed is Freeze Frame. Right-click the node, choose "Set to..." and type in 0.

November 17th, 2003, 12:20 PM	#1547
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Thanks Edward, you nailed it as usual!! thanks, Mike m __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

November 17th, 2003, 10:30 PM	#1549
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	24p Standard footage playing choppy in Preview Window I captured some 24p (standard) footage and found it played back choppy in the preview window.... 9 fps to be exact (@ full size/best). I thought 24p standard was still 29.97 frames a second...what would cause it to play choppy? I opened up a new project using the 24p template and it seemed to play fine. ?! Any ideas?! ....keeping in mind this is 24p standard.

November 18th, 2003, 03:39 AM	#1550
Torsten Blomfeldt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	two questions 1. In my film I wish to freeze my last clip. How do I do that? 2. I have a firewall and antivirusprogram. Is it a good thing to shut it down everytime I work in Vegas? (Sometimes I have forget to shut it down but no problem in Vegas.) __________________ "The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is nothing without work."

November 18th, 2003, 06:46 AM	#1552
Ralph Morris Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 57	Thanks to all for the inputs. Vegas looks like it will be my choice. It has more tools than I will ever be able to use, but it's a little daunting coming from a Pinnacle Studio 8 background. __________________ RalphM ----------------------------------------------- 8mm/S8/16mm film-to-video transfers "Before they are gone forever..."

November 19th, 2003, 12:37 AM	#1555
Wade McGee New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kennesaw,Ga. Posts: 9	Very Cool Mark, Kudos, you did a smokin' job with what looks to be the same tools we all have. Once again great job. I would also like to get additional info on you PS training disks. Please email me off the boards with info: me1313@mindspring.com Thanks, Wade __________________ Soon to have some of my work online, not the best but always unique.

November 16th, 2003, 09:06 PM	#1546
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	If everything else checks, remove all but the necessary peripherals and try it . If it works then install them one at a time until the problem returns. I had problems with available system resources because of a USB multifunction device. ( HP office jet)

November 17th, 2003, 01:56 PM	#1548
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	The normalize function isn't a good tool for volume increases because if the audio has clipped digitally even once, it won't work at all. You're better off using a compressor function and raising the volume level, although that requires quite a bit of work to set levels for all of the tracks you're working with. I really wish these DVD editors had some functions to rate the audio tracks in 2 levels: short time Peak counter/rater (1/20 second), long time peak counter/rater (1 second) and full track counter/rater.

November 18th, 2003, 03:39 AM	#1551
Tor Salomonsen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 265	Because you have unlimited tracks in Vegas you can sort audio that requires the same kind of treatment on separate tracks, and even channel some of those track to different buses. Then you can apply FXs on both track and bus level. Have a look at the audio signal flow diagram in the manual. What you also can do is to set up the default track FX and/or create FX packages with typical presets that you normally will use, and then just select/deselect them as required. In detail: Drop Graphic Dynamics on an audio track. Select and tweak some different presets and save them. Rightclick the track header, click on Set default track porperties, and then OK. Next time you create an audio track it will have Graphic Dynamics selected and you can just pick the appropriate preset. OR: Set up a collection of audio FXs and tweak them for one typical use you may need (music, voiceover, etc). Save as FX package. Next time you can just selct th package and it will replace the FX already on your track and install itself, tweaks and all. Repeat for other typical uses. Of course you can still fine-tune the tweaks after that, but you will have a relevant starting-point.

November 18th, 2003, 08:47 AM	#1553
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	To slow down, freeze, or reverse, use a Velocity Envelope. When capturing or printing to tape, it would probably be a good idea to shutdown the firewall and antivirus programs. For normal editing it probably won't matter (and may not matter on capturing or printing either - only tests will determine that). Personally, my editing and internet computers are two separate machines. My editing computers never see the internet so they have no need for a firewall or antivirus program.

November 18th, 2003, 10:13 AM	#1554
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	Check out EndItAll. This progam allows you to setup which processes should be shutdown or killed. I have it setup for editing, so when I start editing, I close/kill everything I won't need.

November 19th, 2003, 11:41 AM	#1556
Dale Nicholson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 133	Vegas/DVD Architect--no commentary track/options I will eventually be using Vegas 4.0 to edit 24p or 24pa footage and will need to output to dvd w/ 5.1 sound and include a commentary track. For that reason, I was leaning toward DVD Architect; however, it's my understanding that multiple audio tracks, for a director's commentary track, isn't possible in Architect. Ouch! Now what authoring program should I purchase? Isn't there an available plug-in for Architect to enable a commentary track? I guess it's on to other 5.1, AC3 encoding software that has multiple languages capability.

November 19th, 2003, 12:15 PM	#1557
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Correct. DVDA does not currently offer multiple audio tracks. If the video is short enough - it could be included twice. Otherwise you'll have to look at another product that does offer this feature.

November 19th, 2003, 01:31 PM	#1558
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Hope I didn't stump EVERYONE. yikes

November 19th, 2003, 01:46 PM	#1559
Torsten Blomfeldt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	How? <<<To slow down, freeze, or reverse, use a Velocity Envelope.>>> I know how to slow down and reverse but how do I do to freeze a videoclip with Velocity Envelope? I want to freeze a videoclip and then have a text rolling there. __________________ "The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is nothing without work."

November 19th, 2003, 03:24 PM	#1560
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	ZERO percent as the speed is Freeze Frame. Right-click the node, choose "Set to..." and type in 0.