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I missed it, thanks Richard. This is good news.

It's amazing how folks, armed with no concrete evidence, will go public with this kind of thing and start the rumour mill. If someone did this to my business, started rumours I was going out of business with no proof, I'd be pretty angry.

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Jeff et all, the biggest problem I see is the reluctance of SCS to tell us one way or the other about the future of Vegas :(
Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, there are a lot of users that, based on the rumours, have or are planning to switch to another NLE and that's a real problem as SCS is losing long term users.
If they would just come out and say tell us what's happening, that would be a huge plus to them.

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A lot of messages about nothing.
What is the issue here? Vegas Pro is doing its job nicely for 99% of all users. Why not peacefully wait until the truth comes floating on the surface?

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A simple "the rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated" announcement would certainly be encouraging...

Both Vegas and the Alpha A mount are in this category. As a Sony user with a fair amount of "commitment" to both, it's rather frustrating, especially when the Cybershot division keeps spitting out newer better products!

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Don't forget the way they killed off Cinescore.

Dave

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Don't remind me, I paid full price for cinescore to find out one week later it would be discontinued and was sold at a fraction of the cost I paid for it.

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Mike, I agree with you that, yes, it would be nice, but Sony has never behaved the way that many of us think they should. You and I have been around here long enough to know that they just don't, never have and probably never will. And you and I have both seen this uproar every cycle or two when things don't happen fast enough.

I agree with a previous poster who mentioned that few companies are very open when it comes to this sort of thing. Let's not forget how ungracefully Apple abandoned FCP and pretty much abandoned the professional market to focus on a more lucrative consumer market.

I just don't see the purpose behind the hand-wringing. Sony has always played their cards close to their vest.

If people are abandoning Vegas because news isn't coming fast enough I can only say fine, that's their choice. It never occurred to me that anything was wrong until I saw this thread, at which point I thought to myself "Here we go again!"

I guess I'm so jaded and have been in Vegas land enough years that the pattern of how this stuff plays out time after time is SO familiar and unchanging.

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Couldn't agree more! In truth, there have been a lot of very valid points made, but when speaking to the original intent of the post, yes, it's much ado about nothing to me also.

I did see the name Edius again in this thread which had me looking at it for the umpteenth time, but when I remember the lack of plug ins, and how I love Ultimate S and the multicam feature it offers, and the ease with which I can use Plural Eyes to sync my audio almost instantly, I forget about Edius and go back to editing.

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I also found something odd, the price of vegas pro 13 on the official sony website is 558 euro excl taxes, there is a reputable audio store in the Netherlands however selling the same version for 210 euro excl taxes. That's less then half the official price, maybe they know something we don't know yet? It's weird to find such large price differences on a NLE unless they are clearing stock.

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Interestng, Noa!

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Clearing stock? I like the sound of that! So that's an indication v14 is about to be unleashed.

SONY
"Make.Believe"

Everything's going to be ok.

If Magix goes the subscription route, I'm selling everything and getting out.


MW

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Don't take my word for it! I"m just guessing.

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Still using 12 here, I didn't think there was a compelling reason to upgrade to 13.

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Maybe to help make sure there is a 14? Just sayin :)

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Absolutely - even if Vegas is dead with Sony, if people are still upgrading another company could be persuaded to buy if there are still sales. Upgrade to 13.

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I read a LikedIn article announcing Magix took SMS, Vegas, DVDA, Sound Forge and Acid.

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MAGIX! Pulled Vegas outta the Top Hat.

Grazie

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Read the press release here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/magix-ag

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Cannot read press release, anyone else having same issue?

I will say, at first blush, this seems like really good news. A bit scary but I can live with it, a company that might actually be enthusiastic about the product and move forward in a positive direction.

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Having used Magix products in the past (they were cheap and had good rebates!), this might be good.

I was looking at Resolve, and still may give it a spin, but it will be nice if Vegas lives on...

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Posted 24 days ago on their Linkedin page:

"Magix USA is hiring. Opening our new Software Department in Madison/Wi soon. Looking for expierienced senoir software developer"

Ring a bell?.
Ken

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Looks for real folks!

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

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When did Peter Haller "Leave the building"?

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Magix's Vegas equivalent is already Version 15 on Steam. I'd assume the full version of Vegas would also be on Steam.

Steam has a multi-platform system so it supports if the software has a Mac OS version or a Linux version. Hope Magix can take that to their advantage. Native Magix Vegas on Linux would be pretty awesome.

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Ha? Have you seen this?

http://www.grassvalley.com/assets/me..._CompGuide.pdf

How about most VST plugins working just fine in Edius?

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Ervin, I am not seeing any mention of VASST plugins, if that is what you mean by VST. If I'm mistaken let me know.

Also see nothing about Plural Eyes, which I cannot even imagine living without.

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The multicam in EDIUS is the best. I edit mainly in EDIUS because of the multicam feature do all my audio in Vegas/Sound Forge though.
No Plural eyes in EDIUS 8 but is for EDIUS 7 I think . Don't use it though as all my multicam is cameras started and stopped at the same time for the complete show. So sync is easy.
Ron Evans

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Good to know about the multicam feature, Ron, thank you!

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Sorry to be the first to post this - you guys can kiss Vegas good bye:

https://www.cinema5d.com/magix-has-acquired-sony-vegas/

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Sorry to say, but you should have come here more frequently. If you had done that during the last few weeks, you would have noticed, that the future of Veas cs is quite bright in the lap of Magix.

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If you read all the posts on this issue you would have seen Mike's comments in this thread http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...s-video-2.html

Ron Evans

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Like others, I am seeing a potentially exciting new lease of life for Vegas. Even in this article I could find nothing that spoke of the demise of Vegas. What aspect of the report suggests we can kiss it goodbye?

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I just hope that magix also keeps updating codec support. It would be nice to have support for additional codecs like the codec from the canon c300mkii and not cutting down on some.

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Magix had (or I presume still has, it's been a while since I used their products) their own capable editing programs(I had compatibility problems with the disks created, keep in mind this was a LONG time ago, but that was why I looked for another option.... Vegas).

There are several options for the "new" company - integrate their products with Vegas offerings, continue to offer side by side extensions of existing products, and eventually merge them, or perhaps release some amazing new product that will blow away users of both product lines and give an upgrade path...

I've seen software company buyouts many times before, they don't usually turn out that well (like a company buys a competing product to "kill" it off in favor of it's own product, and any "different" products in other niches die off quickly in the process). Sometimes the companies buy the product for a few key features and technology, and again, the product phases out... And sometimes a company continues development and new releases under the new flag....

We shall just have to see, but a free download of Resolve is looking better and better right now.... I do recall Magix offerings were quite reasonably priced or free after rebate... so I'll stay tuned...

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I likened it to an old car any major repairs are not worth it. You just make small fixes until you can no longer drive it. A small company like Magix doesn't have the resources to either over haul or rebuild it from the ground up. I'm sure it's a tricky to modify old code someone else wrote without breaking it.

I'm can't understand why is everyone is making such a big fuss? If you like Vegas and it does what you need you'll be ok until it doesn't. No point hand wringing about the future.

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When Editshare acquired Lightworks in 2009 it was one of the products produced by Gee Broadcasting, I suspect to them it was something which didn't quite fit in with their media management and storage products. However, they started a process of developing a product which was one of the first two NLEs. It had become a niche editor used mostly by feature film or long form documentary film editors, but now has 3 million users registered (Although, I'd quailify that by saying you need to register in order to try it).

How that breaks down Free v Pro v longer term useage I don't know, but during that period it has increased its presence in the NLE market from something that you had to be really in the know, to have heard about to a product that my local computer repair shop knows about.

They did a rewriting of the code, so it can now run on three operating systems and have promoted it into the education markets. So, I guess each software ownership change will have it's own reasons and needs to be taken on a case by case basis

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I'm curious to see where they make changes. I'd like to see improvement in the areas of render times, titles and better HDV/HD/UHD down scaling when rendering for DVD.

If they want to try to increase sales right off the bat, then hopefully they'll just spend some money on marketing instead of giving the UI a make-over. It may look dated, but for me it's fine. I care more about what's under the hood.

Time will tell. At least they brought the Sony software developers on-board, so that's a good sign.

Mark

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... whose 20 or so domestic and international subsidiaries have only a few thousand employees and with only 15 million registered users of its software ......