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Sean Seah May 2nd, 2006 07:32 AM

That is exactly what I did. I think the trail corrupted the original codec as well. Man!!

Alex Thames May 2nd, 2006 07:49 AM

Explain your problem more specifically? I don't see how the original .m2t file got corrupted because of rendering.

Sean Seah May 2nd, 2006 08:24 AM

I select render to "video for windows", HDV1080-50i intermediate. Once I click ok, the erro message pops up:
"Your trial period has expired. Please contact cineform support to activate your product". After that the error message from vegas pops up,"No compatible video codec was found"

John Rofrano May 2nd, 2006 09:26 AM

Try re-installing Vegas and see if it puts the old CineForm codec back. Otherwise contact CineForm and ask for help. Their installer should not have disabled the Vegas version of the codec (or at least it should have re-enabled it when uninstalling).

~jr

Matt Joseph May 2nd, 2006 09:30 AM

IVTC in Vegas
 
Hello all,

I recently purchased Vegas and a Canopus analog-to-DV converter to capture and place my laserdisc collection on DVD before my players eventually give up the ghost and I find myself not being able to find a decent enough replacement.

I have had good luck so far with all of my DV captures and processing using Vegas, except when it comes to converting the 29.97 fps NTSC video to 23.976 fps NTSC video. On scene changes it seems to be blending two frames together; a frame will appear 'ghosted' within the previous frame.

To better illustrate, here are links to a couple of frames I captured from my rough 23.976 output.

First Frame

Second/Next Frame

I have tried several different settings over the past few days to resolve the problem, but nothing seems to work. Is there a specific setting that I am simply missing or is IVTC even possible using Vegas?

Thanks

DJ Kinney May 2nd, 2006 10:10 AM

Dumb question, but are you sure that the break-up is in the final capture? What I mean is, on my system, I can't watch the capture itself because the sound cracks in and out. But as long as there are no dropped frames (which there never are) then the entire audio track come out well. It's just a problem with the system diverting resources to the capture and writing of the file rather than playback DURING capture. See what I mean?

Of course, if the sound is cracking on the final files, I am clueless.

DJ

DJ Kinney May 2nd, 2006 10:20 AM

You know...I'm not seeing any blending at all.

DJ

Douglas Spotted Eagle May 2nd, 2006 10:26 AM

Vegas is perfectly capable of IVTC, but I'm not seeing blending at all either.

Scott Vystrcil May 2nd, 2006 11:07 AM

Preview/Program in Vegas
 
I am very new to Vegas. Is there an option to get both Preview and Program monitors? All I have in the 1 monitor in the lower right hand corner? I am used to Edius Pro I guess.

Matt Joseph May 2nd, 2006 11:13 AM

If you look closely at the first frame, you can see the second frame within the first; I've gone back and circled an area in the first frame where you can see the soliders head from the second frame.

Updated Example

Sorry, I'm not quite sure 'blending' is the correct terminology for what is happening here, but I'm not sure how else to describe it. I've performed IVTC with a few other applications in the past, but I'm relatively new to Vegas and haven't seen anything resembling this with the other apps.

Thanks

Douglas Spotted Eagle May 2nd, 2006 11:47 AM

Bear in mind that you're capturing interlaced media and converting to progressive. It's entirely likely that you've got a half-field somehow creeping in there. Otherwise, I don't have an answer. Copying media from laserdisc to DVD isn't something I've spent time doing, and not familiar enough with how the laserdisc was authored.

DJ Kinney May 2nd, 2006 12:00 PM

I see it now, and I have an idea. I think you need to be looking to the original source material. I think that this blending/creepy-ghost-blur is a result of the content on the laser disc, not the conversion. I don't believe that laser disc players are true 24p. I think the stream is 60i, so it could be a mistake in some L.A. editing room twenty years ago (is this the LD that came out in 1986?), not a problem with Vegas.

DJ

DJ Kinney May 2nd, 2006 12:04 PM

1) Set up your second monitor as an extension of your desktop. Drag the preview window by its corner over to the new desktop. There you go!

2) Use a preview device. Hook up your camera via firewire, then camera to TV/Monitor. Click the preview device button and the preview will output through cam to monitor.


DJ

Matt Joseph May 2nd, 2006 12:18 PM

These particular discs are from the CAV Definitive Collection set from 1993, but are just a few of the discs I intend to convert over the next several months.

I've used TMPGEnc and VirtualDub in past to IVTC the same discs so this is my second go around with them, but this time I wanted to use Vegas and DV to do the job better.

I'll have to try a few different discs with Vegas to see if it is a flaw in this particular disc and try the same disc with VirtualDub again and compare the results. Other than this I've pretty much nailed down a good process and would like to perfect it as much as possible before I dive into converting 100 discs over the summer.

Is there a link to somewhere outlining the optimal settings in Vegas for IVTC?

Again, many thanks.

DJ Kinney May 2nd, 2006 12:38 PM

You know what I'd do? I'd record analog out and use my GL2/XL2/Other Cam as a VCR. Then the films would go cleanly onto DV tapes. Then you would be assured of a nice clean digital capture when you finally figure out how exactly you want to tackle it. Or just watch them on DV tape.


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