Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Ian Briscoe · June 30th, 2006, 08:52 AM

A while back I asked how to fade out a picture wall made up of say 20 small clips. I ddn't want to fade every single clip. I went for the option of adding black generated media above the tracks starting with zero opacity and increasing opacity at the end. That worked fine.

But - how would i dissolve the whole picture wall into another clip - ie not just a fade to colour. I know I can render the picture wall to a new track but won't I lose some quality there?

Thanx

Ian

Rick Alexander · June 30th, 2006, 08:55 AM

Thanks very much Mike!

Graham Bernard · June 30th, 2006, 09:13 AM

If you have V6 you can open a NEW empty veg project and then IMPORT the "Picture-Wall" veg into it. Vegas6 using Nested veggies as if they were just ordinary media events. Yes, it will import a whole veg! Now that you;ve got that veg into the new veg - nested - you can treat the nested veg just as if it was a rendered out file. PLUS if you wish to re-edit the "Picture-Wall" veg you can right click on it and selected Edit Project - and up it will pop!

Another way is to make ALL the tracks children of a control Parent track and apply dissolves and any FX you wish to the Parent track.

Another way is to affect the "Master" Track which you can view at the bottom of the timeline - if not go View and make sure it is activated.

Think I got that right? . .. . So 3 ways there!!

Grazie

Mark Donnell · June 30th, 2006, 10:41 PM

I have several events that were accidently shot at 60i. They involve considerable motion, but I would like to convert them to 30p. It appears that Vegas has a deinterlacing utility - what is the correct way to apply it ? Also, how does the Vegas deinterlacer compare to others such as ProCoder 2.0 and other more expensive programs ?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 1st, 2006, 12:39 AM

If you change the speed of the clips that are already on the timeline, Vegas/Ultimate S doesn't change the length of the clips, only their speed. The in-point remains constant. The speed change is through out the clip, so if you're looking to change speed AND length, then your next best bet is to run the script again, changing clip length.

Laurence Kingston · July 1st, 2006, 06:52 AM

You could try the free Mike Crash deinterlacer, or just use the stock "interpolate" or "blend fields" deinterlacers.

My opinion is that while the Mike Crash deinterlacer or the interpolate method will avoid ghosting, often high motion scenes look smoother with a blend fields deinterlace.

John Rofrano · July 1st, 2006, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle

If you change the speed of the clips that are already on the timeline, Vegas/Ultimate S doesn't change the length of the clips, only their speed.

Actually, Ultimate S does adjust the length if you check the "Adjust Length to Match" option on the Visual Effects tab but it does not change the event placement so they will overlap or create gaps as the length changes (this will be a good enhancement for a future version). ;-)

Jon, What you can do it use the Editing Tools tab and select Adjust Transition Length and make it 00:00:00;00 (zero). This will move all of events one after the other on the timeline.

~jr

Dean Orewiler · July 1st, 2006, 07:00 AM

I'm having problems cutting out a picture on the timeline and keep the sound intact....when i cut the pic, the sound automatically is sliced out too...any suggestions?

John Rofrano · July 1st, 2006, 07:07 AM

Temporarily enable Ignore Event Grouping (Ctrl+Shift+U). This is also an icon on the toolbar. That will let you cut just the video or audio without affecting the other. Then don’t forget to turn it off again otherwise all sorts of things that are grouped will get out of alignment.

~jr

DJ Kinney · July 1st, 2006, 11:00 AM

I was trying to do some multitrack audio recording, but the sound from the top track is recording onto the new track (instead of just playing and letting me record a separate track).

This is probably a simple option that lets me bypass the top track and listen but not record.

I know I've done it before.

Thanks all!

DJ

Jason Robinson · July 1st, 2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Bernard

Think I got that right? . .. . So 3 ways there!!
Grazie

The easiest would be the parent track option (in my opinion). You already have a humongus list of tracks so one more won't be a problem. I have had problems with nesting (certain size limits time wise) to nested projects or something like that (could just be somethign wrong with my install of Vegas).

jason

Dean Orewiler · July 1st, 2006, 11:18 AM

I appreciate your quick response....and helpful advice.
Dean

Jason Robinson · July 1st, 2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Alexander

Thanks very much Mike!

I always edit with those tracks off. Since yu brought up the subject, what is their usefullness? I have yet to use them, but that coudl be because I just don't know HOW to use them properly.

jason

Seth Bloombaum · July 1st, 2006, 11:19 AM

DJ, just a hint.

I think this is a sound card function, not something in vegas. As I recall (fuzzily), depending on the card, you'll find controls for whether an output channel is fed to input channels.

Unless it's getting intermixed at an external mixer...

Don Bloom · July 1st, 2006, 03:22 PM

If you are referring to the tracks at the bottom of the timeline workspace those are MASTER BUS tracks and they can be very useful and helpful for edting however to get them out of the way simply move the cirsor down to the top of the track and move the entrire track down. It will not disappear completely but it will be moved to the point of not being in the way of editing.

Don

June 30th, 2006, 08:52 AM	#16
Ian Briscoe Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southport - UK Posts: 208	Dissolving multiple video tracks A while back I asked how to fade out a picture wall made up of say 20 small clips. I ddn't want to fade every single clip. I went for the option of adding black generated media above the tracks starting with zero opacity and increasing opacity at the end. That worked fine. But - how would i dissolve the whole picture wall into another clip - ie not just a fade to colour. I know I can render the picture wall to a new track but won't I lose some quality there? Thanx Ian

June 30th, 2006, 08:55 AM	#17
Rick Alexander New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 15	That did it! Thanks very much Mike!

June 30th, 2006, 10:41 PM	#19
Mark Donnell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silver City, NM Posts: 385	Deinterlacing question I have several events that were accidently shot at 60i. They involve considerable motion, but I would like to convert them to 30p. It appears that Vegas has a deinterlacing utility - what is the correct way to apply it ? Also, how does the Vegas deinterlacer compare to others such as ProCoder 2.0 and other more expensive programs ?

July 1st, 2006, 12:39 AM	#20
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	If you change the speed of the clips that are already on the timeline, Vegas/Ultimate S doesn't change the length of the clips, only their speed. The in-point remains constant. The speed change is through out the clip, so if you're looking to change speed AND length, then your next best bet is to run the script again, changing clip length. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 1st, 2006, 07:00 AM	#23
Dean Orewiler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 186	how can i cut out just the picture and no sound I'm having problems cutting out a picture on the timeline and keep the sound intact....when i cut the pic, the sound automatically is sliced out too...any suggestions?

June 30th, 2006, 09:13 AM	#18
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	If you have V6 you can open a NEW empty veg project and then IMPORT the "Picture-Wall" veg into it. Vegas6 using Nested veggies as if they were just ordinary media events. Yes, it will import a whole veg! Now that you;ve got that veg into the new veg - nested - you can treat the nested veg just as if it was a rendered out file. PLUS if you wish to re-edit the "Picture-Wall" veg you can right click on it and selected Edit Project - and up it will pop! Another way is to make ALL the tracks children of a control Parent track and apply dissolves and any FX you wish to the Parent track. Another way is to affect the "Master" Track which you can view at the bottom of the timeline - if not go View and make sure it is activated. Think I got that right? . .. . So 3 ways there!! Grazie

July 1st, 2006, 06:52 AM	#21
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	You could try the free Mike Crash deinterlacer, or just use the stock "interpolate" or "blend fields" deinterlacers. My opinion is that while the Mike Crash deinterlacer or the interpolate method will avoid ghosting, often high motion scenes look smoother with a blend fields deinterlace.

July 1st, 2006, 07:07 AM	#24
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	Temporarily enable Ignore Event Grouping (Ctrl+Shift+U). This is also an icon on the toolbar. That will let you cut just the video or audio without affecting the other. Then don’t forget to turn it off again otherwise all sorts of things that are grouped will get out of alignment. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

July 1st, 2006, 11:00 AM	#25
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Multitrack Audio Question I was trying to do some multitrack audio recording, but the sound from the top track is recording onto the new track (instead of just playing and letting me record a separate track). This is probably a simple option that lets me bypass the top track and listen but not record. I know I've done it before. Thanks all! DJ

July 1st, 2006, 11:18 AM	#27
Dean Orewiler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 186	Thank You John !! I appreciate your quick response....and helpful advice. Dean

July 1st, 2006, 11:19 AM	#29
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	DJ, just a hint. I think this is a sound card function, not something in vegas. As I recall (fuzzily), depending on the card, you'll find controls for whether an output channel is fed to input channels. Unless it's getting intermixed at an external mixer...

July 1st, 2006, 03:22 PM	#30
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	If you are referring to the tracks at the bottom of the timeline workspace those are MASTER BUS tracks and they can be very useful and helpful for edting however to get them out of the way simply move the cirsor down to the top of the track and move the entrire track down. It will not disappear completely but it will be moved to the point of not being in the way of editing. Don