Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Michael Phillips · December 27th, 2006, 07:27 PM

I have captured my M2T files with Vegas 7 but when I go to put them on the timeline Vegas does not recognize them. I can play them with Nero or Media Player, but when I try to import them from the folder with Vegas they are not there. Seems odd!
Michael

Carl Downs · December 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM

Very strange... when editing and in preview window ok but when rendered the bright "neon" green and white sign goes pink! take a look at captured pics>
http://www.mythicdevelopments.com/pinkneon.htm
With no color enhancement it is ok when rendered but with any kind of enhancement it goes pink... how can I solve this?? Of course I need to add/adjust color for the main part of the video.

Michael Phillips · December 28th, 2006, 01:09 AM

Have eventually solved the problem by making 4 attempts to capture to get all the files to work. The problem appears to have occured to at least one other user. Someone might have an answer.
Michael.

Bob Grant · December 28th, 2006, 05:03 AM

I replied in the Vegas forum.
I suspect your issue is what I've also seen happen.
The video does get captured but somehow Vegas doesn't terminated the process and release the files, Windows shows them as 0Kb and Vegas will not let you put them on the T/L.
Attempting to close Vegas also seems to not works so well, the app terminates but is still running if you look in Task Manager you'll see the Vegas process still running which makes it real flacky next time you open Vegas as you've now got two instances of Vegas running, one's just hidden.
Trying to terminate the process through Task Manager also seems to fail, I ended up doing a hard system reset to kill it. But the wonder was that after that the 0KB m2t file files became 9GB, would load onto the Vegas T/L but had a wierd name like Temp(something).m2t.

Hope this helps.

Stuart Campbell · December 28th, 2006, 07:04 AM

Having the same problem. If I render out to 'uncompressed' it seems to match my edit preview images. If I select any other format the chroma levels go haywire and the picture looks terrible.

Try rendering out to an uncompressed default template setting and see if the colour changes disappear.

Love to know why this happens tho!

Evan Dowling · December 28th, 2006, 11:28 AM

All I have to do is rename my m2t files to mpg and vegas is totally happy with them.

Carl Downs · December 28th, 2006, 12:32 PM

ok... don't understand why it is happening but I found a work around / fix. Put a Secondary Color Corrector on the clip and slightly alter just that color that is the culprit to a slightly darker color. You have to play with the sliders quite a bit to get it just right and not change anything else in the picture. Also don't change the color to drastically because there always seems to be an "edge" and it looks goofy... just stick close to the original color and tone it down a bit.

Arunas Jocius · December 28th, 2006, 04:50 PM

I have a HDV camcorder recording video at 1080i, I intend to watch my video on 720p projector (that also reads 1080i input) , I also want to be able to watch it occasionally on 576i CRT TV, give DVD to friends that could play it on PAL DVD player and I also want to leave myself an opportunity to later purchase 1080 projector or tv and be able to watch video with highest possible quality later on (meaning to reproduce my video at 1080i as camera has recorded it).

What properties do I start with? I fear I will need to do couple of reenderings, but what is least painfull way. I do not capture much of material, so I should find time where my PC could reender to couple of formats (best would be to do that in batch), but where do I stat? Once I start a new project, I need to select template. Each template has with and height of the picture attached. What should be my original template? 1080, because that is what camera records? 720 as it is max capacity of my projector?

Please advice.

Guy Bruner · December 28th, 2006, 05:00 PM

You should set the project properties to what the camcorder records: HDV PAL 1440x1080, 50i. Then, render it out to the other formats using the appropriate template.

Joe Bowey · December 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM

Has anyone used them in Vegas 7? Just came accross the website and if it worked in vegas then I might buy a few.

Edward Troxel · December 28th, 2006, 08:38 PM

Are you talking about the DVD menus? If you are, then they will not work directly. You would have to rename the layers to DVD Architect's conventions. If not, which products are you talking about?

Grant Macdonald · December 28th, 2006, 11:39 PM

I was looking at some of the great new video cards offered by Matrox http://www.matrox.com/video/products/axiole/home.cfm
And wondered what advantage it would give to Vegas, I mean I understand that the breakout box give you great capturing capabilities but it seems that a lot of the stuff a nice card like this will provide Vegas already does??

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 29th, 2006, 01:05 AM

The Axio card, and any other hardware assist card, won't be of any benefit in Vegas. Vegas is software-driven, and doesn't use a HAL (Hardware Application Layer) in it's structure. So, save your $$, or use those hard-earned bucks for a faster processor and more HDD space.

Peter Jefferson · December 29th, 2006, 05:51 AM

that and the fact AXIO is bloody expensive.. next system down is the RT2, but that doesnt even do 720p, let alone 1080p...

with vegas u CAN

on top of that, rendering n a dual core or higher is faster than realtime (these hadware accelerator cards are realtime)

Greg Quinn · December 30th, 2006, 02:00 AM

Please excuse this dumb question, but am I correct in thinking that when I capture a a 24P m2t file from my V1U using Vegas from within a 24P HDV project, the M2T file is still a regular 60i stream file; it's only after that clip is pulled into the timeline (and potentially further exported) that the 3:2 pulldown is removed and I have a true 24P clip.

(BTW, is it just me, of does anyone else think 24P on the V1U has an unusual look to it)?

Thanks
Greg

December 27th, 2006, 07:27 PM	#1861
Michael Phillips Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 40	M2T not recognized I have captured my M2T files with Vegas 7 but when I go to put them on the timeline Vegas does not recognize them. I can play them with Nero or Media Player, but when I try to import them from the folder with Vegas they are not there. Seems odd! Michael

December 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM	#1862
Carl Downs Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 101	When rendered Neon Exit sign goes pink Very strange... when editing and in preview window ok but when rendered the bright "neon" green and white sign goes pink! take a look at captured pics> http://www.mythicdevelopments.com/pinkneon.htm With no color enhancement it is ok when rendered but with any kind of enhancement it goes pink... how can I solve this?? Of course I need to add/adjust color for the main part of the video.

December 28th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#1866
Evan Dowling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Myers , Florida Posts: 64	All I have to do is rename my m2t files to mpg and vegas is totally happy with them. __________________ Evan Dowling HDV 1080i Sony HDR-HC1

December 28th, 2006, 12:32 PM	#1867
Carl Downs Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 101	Work Around fix ok... don't understand why it is happening but I found a work around / fix. Put a Secondary Color Corrector on the clip and slightly alter just that color that is the culprit to a slightly darker color. You have to play with the sliders quite a bit to get it just right and not change anything else in the picture. Also don't change the color to drastically because there always seems to be an "edge" and it looks goofy... just stick close to the original color and tone it down a bit.

December 28th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#1868
Arunas Jocius Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 25	What project properties to start with in Vegas I have a HDV camcorder recording video at 1080i, I intend to watch my video on 720p projector (that also reads 1080i input) , I also want to be able to watch it occasionally on 576i CRT TV, give DVD to friends that could play it on PAL DVD player and I also want to leave myself an opportunity to later purchase 1080 projector or tv and be able to watch video with highest possible quality later on (meaning to reproduce my video at 1080i as camera has recorded it). What properties do I start with? I fear I will need to do couple of reenderings, but what is least painfull way. I do not capture much of material, so I should find time where my PC could reender to couple of formats (best would be to do that in batch), but where do I stat? Once I start a new project, I need to select template. Each template has with and height of the picture attached. What should be my original template? 1080, because that is what camera records? 720 as it is max capacity of my projector? Please advice.

December 28th, 2006, 01:09 AM	#1863
Michael Phillips Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 40	Have eventually solved the problem by making 4 attempts to capture to get all the files to work. The problem appears to have occured to at least one other user. Someone might have an answer. Michael.

December 28th, 2006, 05:03 AM	#1864
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	I replied in the Vegas forum. I suspect your issue is what I've also seen happen. The video does get captured but somehow Vegas doesn't terminated the process and release the files, Windows shows them as 0Kb and Vegas will not let you put them on the T/L. Attempting to close Vegas also seems to not works so well, the app terminates but is still running if you look in Task Manager you'll see the Vegas process still running which makes it real flacky next time you open Vegas as you've now got two instances of Vegas running, one's just hidden. Trying to terminate the process through Task Manager also seems to fail, I ended up doing a hard system reset to kill it. But the wonder was that after that the 0KB m2t file files became 9GB, would load onto the Vegas T/L but had a wierd name like Temp(something).m2t. Hope this helps.

December 28th, 2006, 07:04 AM	#1865
Stuart Campbell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 400	Having the same problem. If I render out to 'uncompressed' it seems to match my edit preview images. If I select any other format the chroma levels go haywire and the picture looks terrible. Try rendering out to an uncompressed default template setting and see if the colour changes disappear. Love to know why this happens tho!

December 28th, 2006, 05:00 PM	#1869
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	You should set the project properties to what the camcorder records: HDV PAL 1440x1080, 50i. Then, render it out to the other formats using the appropriate template.

December 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#1870
Joe Bowey Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 217	Pixelpops Has anyone used them in Vegas 7? Just came accross the website and if it worked in vegas then I might buy a few.

December 28th, 2006, 08:38 PM	#1871
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Are you talking about the DVD menus? If you are, then they will not work directly. You would have to rename the layers to DVD Architect's conventions. If not, which products are you talking about? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 28th, 2006, 11:39 PM	#1872
Grant Macdonald New Boot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand Posts: 7	adding Matrox to Vegas I was looking at some of the great new video cards offered by Matrox http://www.matrox.com/video/products/axiole/home.cfm And wondered what advantage it would give to Vegas, I mean I understand that the breakout box give you great capturing capabilities but it seems that a lot of the stuff a nice card like this will provide Vegas already does??

December 29th, 2006, 01:05 AM	#1873
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	The Axio card, and any other hardware assist card, won't be of any benefit in Vegas. Vegas is software-driven, and doesn't use a HAL (Hardware Application Layer) in it's structure. So, save your $$, or use those hard-earned bucks for a faster processor and more HDD space. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 29th, 2006, 05:51 AM	#1874
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	that and the fact AXIO is bloody expensive.. next system down is the RT2, but that doesnt even do 720p, let alone 1080p... with vegas u CAN on top of that, rendering n a dual core or higher is faster than realtime (these hadware accelerator cards are realtime)

December 30th, 2006, 02:00 AM	#1875
Greg Quinn Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 505	A question about removing 3:2 pulldown in 60i V1U stream with Vegas Please excuse this dumb question, but am I correct in thinking that when I capture a a 24P m2t file from my V1U using Vegas from within a 24P HDV project, the M2T file is still a regular 60i stream file; it's only after that clip is pulled into the timeline (and potentially further exported) that the 3:2 pulldown is removed and I have a true 24P clip. (BTW, is it just me, of does anyone else think 24P on the V1U has an unusual look to it)? Thanks Greg