Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Jamie Hellmich · December 24th, 2006, 03:19 PM

No problem Donald,

Learning to fly this thing by the seat of my pants too.

Were you able to EQ out the hiss?

Jamie

Will Hanlon · December 24th, 2006, 03:58 PM

Is 4 the highest the playback rate can go? That seems pretty low. The reason I ask is I'm speeding up footage of clouds so 4 doesn't quite cut it, and in Premiere, I was able to speed it up as much as I wanted. I already shot it at the lowest framerate I could so... are there any plugins for this in Vegas or is that really the best it can do?

Thanks.

Will Hanlon · December 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM

I use the MB plugin, and I've never gotten an error with it. I have the free one and the one you have to purchase installed.

John Huling · December 24th, 2006, 05:20 PM

I "captured" video from the A1 Canon (shot in HD 60i to Vegas 7. Put together a 22 minute video program. Rendered it to 1440 X 1080 in Vegas mpeg2 (maybe that's the problem). The Rendering took 3 1/2 hours on a Sony Vaio Laptop with a 1.8 centrino to a 7200 rpm ext disk drive. Then DVD architect wanted to render it also. The first part of the video plays fine then a couple minutes in the images start jumping and pixellating severly. The sound played at the beginning then stopped also (probably a different issue). What did I do wrong? I am sure it's something I did not do correctly.

John Huling · December 24th, 2006, 05:29 PM

The entire project took almost 6 hours.

Jamie Hellmich · December 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM

Will,

I usually adjust the clip speed (fast or slow) to the max (400%) render it to the original clip format, re-insert it on the timeline, adjust again, and repeat as necessary to get the fast or slow speed I want.

Jamie

Jamie Hellmich · December 24th, 2006, 05:58 PM

John,

Your rendered file is not DVD format, that is why DVD architect wanted to render it. Though I'm not sure why it didn't render it down properly, if that is why it did not play correctly.

Render it to a DVD Architect NTSC or NTSC Widescreen preset, including the audio stream if desired though the "custom" button and audio tab, "include audio" check box.

If you still have a problem, it lay somewhere else.

Your render times sound commensurate for the pc, but you did require 2 renders instead of 1. Render it one time to DVD format, 720 X 480 in preferred screen format, framerate and progressive/interlaced preference. Or as I said before, one of the DVD Architect presets with audio.

Jamie

John Huling · December 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM

Thanks Jamie
I will try again tommorrow. Perhaps I was just tired and trying to get too much done.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I know it can take time to reply, so I really appreciate it. Merry X mas and Happy New year!

Evan Dowling · December 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM

Thanks for the info guys! Merry Christmas!

Edward Troxel · December 24th, 2006, 08:51 PM

Using the playback rate (or CTRL-Resize) you can get up to 4x. Using the Velocity envelope, you can get up to 3x. Combine the two and you can get up to 12x. Beyond that, render and do the above again.

Robb Swiatek · December 24th, 2006, 08:54 PM

I'm running Vegas 5 and output my finished project to Architect in mpeg 2 form using the Arch templates. But the overall quality and clarity when viewed on a TV isn't as good as when I connect and preview the footage directly off the camera. What am I doing wrong?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 24th, 2006, 08:59 PM

Hi Rob,
You might need to provide more info for a more concise answer.
Camera direct to TV is straight DV, but DVD is a much more highly compressed MPEG. If you're using a low bitrate, that will compromise your picture quality.
Length/bitrate and processing of image all play a role in image quality.
Can you post specifics on what parts of the image you're unsatisfied with? What bitrate you've encoded to? Length of project?

Miguel Lopez · December 24th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Hi i am trying to import a quicktime sheer codec video, that has been captured in a Mac, into Vegas video 7.0c. But vegas crashes. I can play the file in quicktime without problems. But whenever i try to import it to Vegas it crashes. I tried two PCs. Same result. The QT sheer codec that i used was YCrBr 4.2.2 8 bit.
Is there any way to import sheer codec qt files into vegas?
Thanks!

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 24th, 2006, 10:48 PM

Hmm...wanna send me a couple seconds of your vid? I've got Sheer 2.4 on my laptop, and just rendered to, and imported from, the Sheer codec, captured on my Macbook. I'd be happy to see if it's just your system, or at least see if that file imports.

Will Hanlon · December 24th, 2006, 11:07 PM

Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. As far as rendering a clip out, any suggestion on what format I should use for Raylight AVI 720p 23.976? I was looking at the Windows AVI, but... actually, I just found my answer. I can use Windows AVI then just have the video uncompressed or use an HD codec. Anyway, thanks.

December 24th, 2006, 03:58 PM	#1817
Will Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 148	Speeding Up in Vegas Is 4 the highest the playback rate can go? That seems pretty low. The reason I ask is I'm speeding up footage of clouds so 4 doesn't quite cut it, and in Premiere, I was able to speed it up as much as I wanted. I already shot it at the lowest framerate I could so... are there any plugins for this in Vegas or is that really the best it can do? Thanks.

December 24th, 2006, 05:20 PM	#1819
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Pixels & images start & stop big blocky stuff I "captured" video from the A1 Canon (shot in HD 60i to Vegas 7. Put together a 22 minute video program. Rendered it to 1440 X 1080 in Vegas mpeg2 (maybe that's the problem). The Rendering took 3 1/2 hours on a Sony Vaio Laptop with a 1.8 centrino to a 7200 rpm ext disk drive. Then DVD architect wanted to render it also. The first part of the video plays fine then a couple minutes in the images start jumping and pixellating severly. The sound played at the beginning then stopped also (probably a different issue). What did I do wrong? I am sure it's something I did not do correctly.

December 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#1824
Evan Dowling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Myers , Florida Posts: 64	Thanks for the info guys! Merry Christmas! __________________ Evan Dowling HDV 1080i Sony HDR-HC1

December 24th, 2006, 08:51 PM	#1825
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Using the playback rate (or CTRL-Resize) you can get up to 4x. Using the Velocity envelope, you can get up to 3x. Combine the two and you can get up to 12x. Beyond that, render and do the above again. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 24th, 2006, 08:54 PM	#1826
Robb Swiatek Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: O-Town, CT Posts: 52	Quality Not Up to Par on DVD I'm running Vegas 5 and output my finished project to Architect in mpeg 2 form using the Arch templates. But the overall quality and clarity when viewed on a TV isn't as good as when I connect and preview the footage directly off the camera. What am I doing wrong?

December 24th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#1816
Jamie Hellmich Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 105	No problem Donald, Learning to fly this thing by the seat of my pants too. Were you able to EQ out the hiss? Jamie

December 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM	#1818
Will Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 148	I use the MB plugin, and I've never gotten an error with it. I have the free one and the one you have to purchase installed.

December 24th, 2006, 05:29 PM	#1820
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	The entire project took almost 6 hours.

December 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM	#1821
Jamie Hellmich Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 105	Will, I usually adjust the clip speed (fast or slow) to the max (400%) render it to the original clip format, re-insert it on the timeline, adjust again, and repeat as necessary to get the fast or slow speed I want. Jamie

December 24th, 2006, 05:58 PM	#1822
Jamie Hellmich Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 105	John, Your rendered file is not DVD format, that is why DVD architect wanted to render it. Though I'm not sure why it didn't render it down properly, if that is why it did not play correctly. Render it to a DVD Architect NTSC or NTSC Widescreen preset, including the audio stream if desired though the "custom" button and audio tab, "include audio" check box. If you still have a problem, it lay somewhere else. Your render times sound commensurate for the pc, but you did require 2 renders instead of 1. Render it one time to DVD format, 720 X 480 in preferred screen format, framerate and progressive/interlaced preference. Or as I said before, one of the DVD Architect presets with audio. Jamie

December 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM	#1823
John Huling Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 172	Thanks Jamie I will try again tommorrow. Perhaps I was just tired and trying to get too much done. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I know it can take time to reply, so I really appreciate it. Merry X mas and Happy New year!

December 24th, 2006, 08:59 PM	#1827
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Hi Rob, You might need to provide more info for a more concise answer. Camera direct to TV is straight DV, but DVD is a much more highly compressed MPEG. If you're using a low bitrate, that will compromise your picture quality. Length/bitrate and processing of image all play a role in image quality. Can you post specifics on what parts of the image you're unsatisfied with? What bitrate you've encoded to? Length of project? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 24th, 2006, 10:40 PM	#1828
Miguel Lopez Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 187	Sheer codec in vegas possible? Hi i am trying to import a quicktime sheer codec video, that has been captured in a Mac, into Vegas video 7.0c. But vegas crashes. I can play the file in quicktime without problems. But whenever i try to import it to Vegas it crashes. I tried two PCs. Same result. The QT sheer codec that i used was YCrBr 4.2.2 8 bit. Is there any way to import sheer codec qt files into vegas? Thanks!

December 24th, 2006, 10:48 PM	#1829
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Hmm...wanna send me a couple seconds of your vid? I've got Sheer 2.4 on my laptop, and just rendered to, and imported from, the Sheer codec, captured on my Macbook. I'd be happy to see if it's just your system, or at least see if that file imports. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 24th, 2006, 11:07 PM	#1830
Will Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 148	Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. As far as rendering a clip out, any suggestion on what format I should use for Raylight AVI 720p 23.976? I was looking at the Windows AVI, but... actually, I just found my answer. I can use Windows AVI then just have the video uncompressed or use an HD codec. Anyway, thanks.