Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Edward Troxel · December 14th, 2006, 03:39 PM

Based on re-reading this, I'm betting your preview is now on "Best (Full)". Change the preview mode back to "Preview (Auto)" and all will be fine again. It's one of the options above the preview screen.

Mike Tesh · December 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Does anyone here use YouTube?

YouTube says

Quote:

We recommend the MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format at 320x240 resolution with MP3 audio, at 30 frames per second. Resizing your video to these specifications before uploading will help your clips look better on YouTube.

But Vegas doesn't output to Divx or Xvid. Be really nice if it did... hint hint Sony. So what's the second best option?

EDIT: Mods you can delete this, I found this thread, sorry
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...hlight=youtube

Arnt Mollan · December 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Hi Burk

Got mail from David Taylor at CineForm, and they will look into it.

My specs
Asus P5WD2 Premium
Intel Pentium D 3.0
2 gig ram
Updated XP on IDE
Video on sATA 2x500 Raid 0
Matrox Parhelia APVe
M-audio ext soundcard

So it should not be the hardware.

Don Donatello · December 14th, 2006, 05:40 PM

when i have short projects i usually change the min bit rate to 5,000,000 ( from 192k) and use 2 pass ...

Burk Webb · December 14th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Thanks a bunch Arnt - you really pointed me in the right direction I think!

Did an uninstall of Connect HD (including the codec)
Uninstalled Vegas 7c.
Shut down computer….wait a couple minutes…
Re-install Vegas 7c.

Open problem project and try and reproduce crash – can’t seem to get it to croak. My framerates have fallen to around the 19-20s but I can live with it. In the interest of time and to make sure I’m solid I’m going to just work with this config for a while and see how it goes. So far things look solid.

From what I understand The Cineform guys can’t reproduce the crash, I have an open support ticket with em’ and David (from Cineform) and the Sony forum admin have replied to my post on the Sony Forums. Really appreciate your help here David and Forum admin.

Thanks so much for all the help everyone!

John Rofrano · December 14th, 2006, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalo Alvidrez

So what I need to know is there some way to undo that partially ran script?

Try Ctrl+Z. I test scripts all the time and Ctrl+Z (or Edit > Undo) usually undoes whatever the script did. If not, Edward is probably on the right track. The script set your preview to full to take snapshots for the thumbnails. Just set it back again.

~jr

Mark Howells · December 15th, 2006, 03:16 AM

I have loaded wmv files with reasonable results. Just ensure that the file size is as close to the maximum allowed as possible (100MB)

Perrone Ford · December 15th, 2006, 07:10 AM

You can download these codecs and use them from Vegas. I've been testing the various mpeg4/divx codecs recently.

Yesterday I created an mp4 file with the mainconcept mp4 codec. I believe that one came with the most recent Vegas 6 download.

Also, you might want to download and use vitrualdub. Many excellent plugins are available for that program that make it a nice compliment to Vegas. Essentially, I am exporting lossless AVI files from Vegas, then de-interlacing and adjusting frame rate in virtualdub (29.97 to 24 IVTC).

Best of luck.

Lalo Alvidrez · December 15th, 2006, 08:10 AM

Thanks JR and ET. What I ended up doing was reinstalling because I was needing to get some work done right away. JR, I did hit CTL Z and it never undid it. I'll remember to check that next time ET.

Mike Tesh · December 15th, 2006, 08:15 AM

I have the divx create 6 bundle and it doesn't show up as a render option for me in Vegas.

Thanks for the tip on the WMV's though.

Jason Robinson · December 15th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Tesh

Does anyone here use YouTube?

YouTube says

But Vegas doesn't output to Divx or Xvid. Be really nice if it did... hint hint Sony. So what's the second best option?

EDIT: Mods you can delete this, I found this thread, sorry
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...hlight=youtube

I was wondering the some thing since I just created a 3Mbps WMV and uploaded all 29MB of it. The results are less than steller and if Vegas could render to Divx / XVid that would be great.

So is it possible to create a new render option and if so, where & how?

jason

Perrone Ford · December 15th, 2006, 11:42 AM

I downloaded and installed both Xvid and Divx 5.x onto my PC. When I go to render, and I chose AVI, I have both of those codecs, and the other's I've downloaded as options.

Edit:

Whoops. I have to retract this. I selected these codecs but couldn't output. Back to the drawing board.

Lynne Whelden · December 15th, 2006, 09:35 PM

Since I see that basic questions are well-tolerated here, I feel safe in asking this...I've heard that Vegas is a little "different" from the other editing programs. That attracts my attention. So what I'd like to know is how an insert edit is done in Vegas and whether it's any different from, say, FCP? Personally, I'd love an insert that's done by parking the B-roll clip on another track above the main video A-roll track so that you always see what was there before the insert, what's the "activated" track and what's the source of the nat sound audio. That way, to change an "in" point and "out" point could be as simple as sliding the insert clip to the right or left. Am I only dreaming or is an acceptable way to do inserts in Vegas?

Mike Kujbida · December 15th, 2006, 10:06 PM

No, you're not dreaming. If you do it the way you described, an insert edit (cuts only) is exactly what would happen.
The topmost track always has priority over anything below it.
The audio is whatever is playing on the timeline. If you had 10 tracks of continuous audio, you'd hear all 10 simultaneously.
In your example, if the insert had background sound, you could either leave it alone or add a volume envelope (search the help menu for this feature) to raise or lower the volume of the track(s) at the time of the edit.

Lynne Whelden · December 16th, 2006, 07:00 AM

Wow, that is really nice. Now here's the follow-up--is that feature (top track priority) unique to Vegas? Or is that the way "cuts-only inserts" are handled in pretty much all the other editing programs?
One other question--just exactly what makes Vegas "different" from the rest of the herd? Is it the interface?
These questions are coming from someone who's edited on ScreenPlay, an editing "appliance," for the past 6 years or so. I'm pretty much a 'cuts and a couple audio tracks' sort of person, doing docs and event stuff. I'm so visually oriented that I like to be able to "see" everything I'm working with. Otherwise, out of sight, out of mind. (For example, as I recall from FCP, when you drop an insert onto the time line, the replaced video isn't "seen" anymore. I don't like that.) I like "seeing" as many clip icons in the bin as possible, I like being able to "see" all the video and audio tracks I'm laying down. Does Vegas sound like a nice "fit" for me or am I inviting aggrevation and a steep learning curve?

December 14th, 2006, 03:39 PM	#1696
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Based on re-reading this, I'm betting your preview is now on "Best (Full)". Change the preview mode back to "Preview (Auto)" and all will be fine again. It's one of the options above the preview screen. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM	#1698
Arnt Mollan Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 87	Hi Burk Got mail from David Taylor at CineForm, and they will look into it. My specs Asus P5WD2 Premium Intel Pentium D 3.0 2 gig ram Updated XP on IDE Video on sATA 2x500 Raid 0 Matrox Parhelia APVe M-audio ext soundcard So it should not be the hardware. __________________ Arnt Mollan www.mollanmedia.com

December 15th, 2006, 08:15 AM	#1705
Mike Tesh Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 253	I have the divx create 6 bundle and it doesn't show up as a render option for me in Vegas. Thanks for the tip on the WMV's though. __________________ ScapeFilms.com \| My Photography \| IMDB Profile

December 15th, 2006, 11:42 AM	#1707
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	I downloaded and installed both Xvid and Divx 5.x onto my PC. When I go to render, and I chose AVI, I have both of those codecs, and the other's I've downloaded as options. Edit: Whoops. I have to retract this. I selected these codecs but couldn't output. Back to the drawing board. Last edited by Perrone Ford; December 15th, 2006 at 12:42 PM.

December 15th, 2006, 09:35 PM	#1708
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Another basic question about inserts Since I see that basic questions are well-tolerated here, I feel safe in asking this...I've heard that Vegas is a little "different" from the other editing programs. That attracts my attention. So what I'd like to know is how an insert edit is done in Vegas and whether it's any different from, say, FCP? Personally, I'd love an insert that's done by parking the B-roll clip on another track above the main video A-roll track so that you always see what was there before the insert, what's the "activated" track and what's the source of the nat sound audio. That way, to change an "in" point and "out" point could be as simple as sliding the insert clip to the right or left. Am I only dreaming or is an acceptable way to do inserts in Vegas?

December 14th, 2006, 05:40 PM	#1699
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	when i have short projects i usually change the min bit rate to 5,000,000 ( from 192k) and use 2 pass ...

December 14th, 2006, 07:12 PM	#1700
Burk Webb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 249	Thanks a bunch Arnt - you really pointed me in the right direction I think! Did an uninstall of Connect HD (including the codec) Uninstalled Vegas 7c. Shut down computer….wait a couple minutes… Re-install Vegas 7c. Open problem project and try and reproduce crash – can’t seem to get it to croak. My framerates have fallen to around the 19-20s but I can live with it. In the interest of time and to make sure I’m solid I’m going to just work with this config for a while and see how it goes. So far things look solid. From what I understand The Cineform guys can’t reproduce the crash, I have an open support ticket with em’ and David (from Cineform) and the Sony forum admin have replied to my post on the Sony Forums. Really appreciate your help here David and Forum admin. Thanks so much for all the help everyone!

December 15th, 2006, 03:16 AM	#1702
Mark Howells Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 99	I have loaded wmv files with reasonable results. Just ensure that the file size is as close to the maximum allowed as possible (100MB)

December 15th, 2006, 07:10 AM	#1703
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	You can download these codecs and use them from Vegas. I've been testing the various mpeg4/divx codecs recently. Yesterday I created an mp4 file with the mainconcept mp4 codec. I believe that one came with the most recent Vegas 6 download. Also, you might want to download and use vitrualdub. Many excellent plugins are available for that program that make it a nice compliment to Vegas. Essentially, I am exporting lossless AVI files from Vegas, then de-interlacing and adjusting frame rate in virtualdub (29.97 to 24 IVTC). Best of luck.

December 15th, 2006, 08:10 AM	#1704
Lalo Alvidrez Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Longview, Tx. Posts: 227	Thanks JR and ET. What I ended up doing was reinstalling because I was needing to get some work done right away. JR, I did hit CTL Z and it never undid it. I'll remember to check that next time ET.

December 15th, 2006, 10:06 PM	#1709
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	No, you're not dreaming. If you do it the way you described, an insert edit (cuts only) is exactly what would happen. The topmost track always has priority over anything below it. The audio is whatever is playing on the timeline. If you had 10 tracks of continuous audio, you'd hear all 10 simultaneously. In your example, if the insert had background sound, you could either leave it alone or add a volume envelope (search the help menu for this feature) to raise or lower the volume of the track(s) at the time of the edit.

December 16th, 2006, 07:00 AM	#1710
Lynne Whelden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: williamsport, pa Posts: 604	Wow, that is really nice. Now here's the follow-up--is that feature (top track priority) unique to Vegas? Or is that the way "cuts-only inserts" are handled in pretty much all the other editing programs? One other question--just exactly what makes Vegas "different" from the rest of the herd? Is it the interface? These questions are coming from someone who's edited on ScreenPlay, an editing "appliance," for the past 6 years or so. I'm pretty much a 'cuts and a couple audio tracks' sort of person, doing docs and event stuff. I'm so visually oriented that I like to be able to "see" everything I'm working with. Otherwise, out of sight, out of mind. (For example, as I recall from FCP, when you drop an insert onto the time line, the replaced video isn't "seen" anymore. I don't like that.) I like "seeing" as many clip icons in the bin as possible, I like being able to "see" all the video and audio tracks I'm laying down. Does Vegas sound like a nice "fit" for me or am I inviting aggrevation and a steep learning curve?