Mixing in Vegas and "Africa"
 

So, this is kind of random, but I'm going to be in a High School talent show and I wanted to do an Acapella version of Africa by Totu. I almost have all of the parts recorded of myself into vegas, but I am not a very capable audio mixer or recorder. Does anyone have any hints or better yet, would anyone be interested in taking on a funny side project of mixing these files so they sound good by Thursday? It would be helpful, because I really don't know how to mix well... Thanks.

PI wont accept Vegas DV Avis, u have to render out as RAW DV then import as a abackground image within PI

PI does support transparencys and Vegas does feed off them.. but for the actual composite work, its actually ALOT faster to render in PI

umm..

what else did u want to know??

PI3 is awsome.. prolly one of the best tools ive had the pleasure to use.

oh and when u export the movie, i jsut export as raw. THe blockers a re a great addition as well ...

Premiere <- -> Vegas
 

Annoyingly confusing title I know, I apologise!

What I'm trying to ask is, anyone know if its more Premiere users going across to Vegas or more Vegas users going across to Premiere these days?

As much as I want to learn Premiere, deep down I think a lot of it is because of the "recognition" of being able to edit in it ("the consumer standard" pretty much) as Vegas is still nowhere near as known as Prem. I think Vegas is a wonderful tool, and will definitely continue to use it... I don't think I could ever fully migrate to Premiere unless things change a lot.

Does it really matter? If you want to work with a tool that gets
acceptance in the industry you should not use either, probably.
Avid and FCP are the two tools that are most used in the
"professional" world of editing. Premiere is indeed much more
known, but not really used by the big boys, it seems.

Indeed, doesn't matter one bit.. its all down to curiosity. I know Premiere isn't used by the big boys (and I hate macs so won't move over to that system) but obviously Avid is out most of our leagues.. but I will train myself on it bit by bit anyway. I'm just intrigued as to how many people are moving between systems these days, I remember back in the day of V3 a lot of premiere users were switching over after being impressed.. now PremPro 1.5 is out, I'm wondering if people are switching back or if even more are moving over.

I personally want to get to grips with as many "proper" PC based editing suites as I can, but I know a lot of people would rather stick to one.

Why do you say that Avid is out of most of our leagues? There is
a free version of Avid out and I believe that the Express DV version
is not that expensive either. They say if you know your way around
Avid it doesn't really matter which version of Avid it is.

Kinda forgot what board I'm on here, Avid is way under half of our leagues here, but a bit out of mine ;) I've toyed with Avid DV Xpress (from memory) and on one monitor with its default layout scared the hell out of me :) Albeit this was a while ago now, so would probably feel more at home with it now I'm sure, but I think I'll work my way up to it slowly. I think I'd be far more comfortable working within Vegas for a while whilst learning Premiere on the side.. I believe a friend of mine says she'll show me around Avid properly one day which'd be nice.

Zoom in on video
 

If I shoot a medium shot and in post decide it really should have been a tight shot is it reasonable to do the zoom in post?

How much futzing can I do before I need to worry about image degredation?

Thanks,

KIM

You can zoom a little without any noticable loss but I probably wouldn't go more than about 10%. The farther you zoom, the softer the image will become.

James, I don't know if anyone knows the real answer to your question. I DO know that in the forums I have seen many premiere users migrating to Vegas. Those same users indicate the Premiere forums do NOT show as much of a migration from Vegas to Premiere. However, as Rob said, does it really matter?

oh no here comes another velocity enveloppe question
 

Hi all,


Well I tried to search first but only came up with my own posts in the results.


Ok so I drop a velocity enveloppe and 00:27:17 , completely stop the event and and hold on to that frame. So far so good.

Now I want to cut at that frame and put a flash transition , when the effect is done the same still image appear in B&W

The problem is that when I cut the event the next event start at the other frame even though I stopped it with the enveloppe. The new segment still has that enveloppe set to 0 so I am really not sure then why it still jumps to the next frame

Any ideas is of course greatly appreciated.

Phil

Here is the segment I am talking about.

it is a 13 meg uncompress file so nobody should have any problem viewing it.

If you go frame by frame you will clearly see what am talking about.

thanks again

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=273C41QO91RT61U13J9H0ZZMBL

I just had to do this today to eliminate some heads in the front row of the audience that had been captured in the view from an unattended camera. (who let those people sit up there anyhow?)

I'm not sure how to relate to percentages, but I imagine I cropped about 10% or so of the picture. The result was an apparent loss in resolution as expected.

Following some advice seen on one of the Vegas forums, I duplicated the track, then selected sharpening in the convolution filter for the lower track. Reducing the opacity of the upper track to about 50% looked pretty good.

It's certainly not as good as the original uncropped clip, but it's useful for occasional cut-aways from the main track.

BTW, Edward, the multicam wizard in Excalibur has restored my sanity on this three camera capture of an amateur play.

Ralph

I did not look at your sample, but lets see if I understand what you said.

When you cut footage, it cuts between frames. So segment 1 has footage from 0:0:0 to 0:1:12 and the next segment will start at 0:1:13. (example)

It does not cut and duplicate a frame. So if I understand correctly, you need to use two identical segments, trimming one after the freeze frame, and trimming the next one before the freeze frame, making sure the identical frame remains in both segments. You can't just cut one and get what you are looking for.

Does that make sense? Does it sove the problem?

Hi John,


It does make sense unless a more experienced user says otherwise.

I'll give it a shot , I got another segment of the video I am working on that needs the same treatment.

BTW when I am done with this project there will be a nice intro into it , done with Vegas. Since I can't find a guy who's willing to be part of the team I am trying to assembled I decided to learn myself.

Hope your "intro" problems are solved , keep you posted on this velocity thing

Thanks for your time

Phil

best way to create a simple cut-flash effect?
 

hey guys...what is the easiest/best way in vegas5...

to create that quick cut you see in alot of tv shows today where it basically fades to white (usally white) real quick

and sorta looks like a camera flash...


Please help

thanks,
Looking for the most efficient way to do this

Try 3 frames of white with blue tint clip ,sorry, event between them

Well I went back to a really simple intro for now, but just downloaded a trial copy of combustion to play with. Same week my stock fooftage and RF music library shows up (good week on ebay), so I guess I have plenty to play with now.

Thanks Ian & Peter,
Looking at what this program will do has me salivating.
And the price is incredible compared to some other simular programs.

Peter, does PI support dual-screen "window dragging"? Do you think my ATI 9800 XT will run it properly?
Is keyframe animation easy in PI?

Thanks in Advance.

DVD VOB Files into Vegas ??
 

When bringing unprotected VOB files into Vegas, I drag it to the timeline and it creates the video track successfully. How do you get the audio portion of the VOB file onto an audio track?

I had the same problem.
Try the guide from this site:
http://www.videohelp.com/virtualdubaudio.htm
Just paste the wav file below the video layer.

Thanks Johan:

So are you suggesting that the only way to get the audio from the VOB file is by using a program like Virtualdub?

Does anyone know of a way to do it in Vegas or DVD Architect??

come again

Re: DVD VOB Files into Vegas ??
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Ray Sigmond : When bringing unprotected VOB files into Vegas, I drag it to the timeline and it creates the video track successfully. How do you get the audio portion of the VOB file onto an audio track? -->>>

u dont..

u have to extract the audio or demux the vob unless the audio is PCM

a small app like BeSweet works wonders.. even extracts 5.1 stresm into seperate waves.

Your problem is that the DVD contains AC3 audio. Vegas will not import AC3 so you have to convert the audio into something Vegas WILL import.

Why not just use the Flash transition? There's three built-in presets: Hard, Soft, and Yellow

I downloaded BeSweet version 1.5b29 which I found here

http://dspguru.doom9.net/

Johan, I also downloaded VirtualDub 1.5.1 and willtry them both.

http://www.virtualdub.org/


I guess it would be a lot easier if I plugged my external DVD player into the S-Video of my capture card. But then I would of never learned about these apps.

Thanks Guys,

Ray

Script for audio adjustments?
 

Hi All,

Great forum and very helpful.

I have a project - 2 1/2 hour dance recital - where I had the audio run into the wide-angle camera at the back of the auditorium. Unfortunately the sound guy was unwilling to boost the level through to the camera so we were maxed on the audio signal... sigh, anyway, I have 16 bit audio going into the right channel. It's nice and clean but low. I have room ambience through the other camera but I was wondering the following.
Is there a script that would take the soundboard audio channel (track 4 in each instance) make it stereo and then boost the levels to something acceptable and apply it to all 49! of my 2.5 minute clips without me doing it all myself one at a time? Dear God, somebody please say yes.

Thanks for listening.

sincerely,


ian

Philippe,
On the last frame that is stopped try saving a "best/full" screen capture of that frame. Either do the B/W effect in an image editor or Vegas. Then drag the image on the timeline and do your flash transition with the velocity clip (there are other ways to create a flash effect). If the velocity envelope is set at 0 at the time of the screen cap you should be able to drag that clip a little further to give you room for the transition. That is how I have done what you have described.

I usually use a camera shutter-sound effect at the "flash" point and sometimes will do about a 10-15 % zoom and a slight rotation on the screen capture after the flash for added effect (depending on the quality of the screen-cap).

Hope this helps.

Shane

How the heck did I miss that Flash transition!

Thanks Edward... that is 99.9% exactly of what I needed!

thanks for your time to post it for me...

Right-click the first one and choose "Select Events to End".

Right-click the first one and choose Channels - Right Only (or Left Only)

Select Track 4 and press V. Adjust the volume as needed. If you adjust both the track AND volume envelope, you can get +12 on the track and +6 on the volume envelope. Of course you'll be raising "noise" by that much too.

Excellent, now one more question
 

Thanks Ed for the info.

One thing.

I have each dance saved as a separate file. It appears that this is going to require me to dump all 49 dances onto one timeline but by the time I do that I could just do what you suggested above 49 times. *sigh*

Any ideas on streamlining what I've created for myself?

sincerely,


ian

Quick Question about Vegas updates
 

When updating Vegas, Do I have to download each update ( A, B, C, D and so on ) to get all the updated features/fixes or can I just update to version 5.0d and it will have all the updates that were included in b and c.

The reason for asking is I have 5.0b and I can't seem to find 5.0c. I must have missed it. :-/

Thanks for the replies!

The latest update is the FULL product (including all incremental updates). In fact, if Vegas was NOT installed on the system, you could just install the "D" update and register it and be running.

Adjust the audio LAST. Then you only have to do it once.

Question with Keyframing & the Sync Cursor option
 

Hi there. I'm trying to sync the beat of a song with a part of the movie, and I'm doing it quite a bit - so it'd be a much larger hassle to individually stop-and-go keyframe each beat.

It'd be MUCH easier if I could somehow get the cursor to actually move WITH the movie, instead of just going where to where the movie is when paused/stop, and being able to insert keyframes as it goes.

Is this possible? Thanks in advance!

Not exactly sure I followed all of that. One thing you can do when playing the timeline is press "M" on the beats which will insert markers. Then you could use the markers to easily locate where the keyframes should go.

Ah, that works great! Never thought about that, strangely! I guess it's because I never really organize my work with markers and such, I prefer to just selectively zoom.

Thanks so much :)

Thanks so much Edward! I was wondering if it was like that but thought I would ask just to make sure.

You could assign the audio to seperate buses and pan the buses and adjust the volume that way?