<<<-- Originally posted by Christopher Lefchik : I've done some testing, and here are the results.

Video exported directly from Vegas (in my case I used the Vegas 5 trial) can be streamed fine via http. There is a caveat, however. The video will start streaming okay if launched from Internet Explorer 6, but surfers like me who use an alternative browser will not get the video streamed if the wmv format is not included in the mime settings on the server.

Mime settings let a browser know how to handle file types. In the case of a wmv file the server would let the browser know that the video should be passed off to Windows Media player, thus avoiding downloading the file. Windows Media player would then take care of streaming the file itself.

A wvx file is not needed.

The mime settings for different web servers are at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de.../html/mime.asp.

If your web host allows you to configure an .htaccess file you can add the wmv extension yourself. Otherwise you will have to ask them to configure it for you. -->>>

I also did some testing and I'm not getting the same results. Files encoded with Microsoft's Windows Media Encoder using the "Progressive Download" profile, streamload (as I call it) properly, with or without the MIME settings on the server. Files encoded using the Vegas plugin do not, with or without the additional MIME settings (I tried it both ways). I haven't had a chance to try wvx yet, but that's next.

Can Vegas do pixel tracking or corner pin?

Cmon guys ,this is not constructive , I am kindly asking to be redirected to any online help for boris Red.

Start your own thread if you can't supply any info

Thanks for understanding

I dont get it.I'm trying to be constructive as I think the pixel tracker in Boris yields good results and someone might know if Vegas can do this.
If you prefer not to discuss Boris's advantages or the possibility that Vegas could do what you want and all your looking for is a forum dedicated for Boris ,I don't know of any.

HI Jack ,


Sorry I am still new in Boris and didn't know of any pixel tracking tool.

Actually yes , the question was only to find out if anybody knows a good forum for Boris.

Since it looks like you know your way around I will ask you here.

Whenever I try to drop a text effect in Boris the text appear sheared , stretch out like. There is a sheared effect in Vegas when you insert text media.

So the text never appear just....normal

Sorry and thanks :)

<<<-- Originally posted by Jack Smith : Can Vegas do pixel tracking or corner pin? -->>>

No it can not (unless you manually do it on each frame). Boris is an extremely powerful addition to Vegas but does have a pretty steep learning curve.

I know Class On Demand has a DVD related to Boris. I'm sure there are probably some other training DVD sets around and probably some books. I'm just not familiar with the training aids available.

If you want to contact me I can send your contact info to my contact at Boris and see if they can provide additional info.

Hi ,


Well that is mighty generous of you Ed but thanks. Actually the learning curve is quite OK by me so far. Indeed it looks very powerful.

My "bug" is below , that is the only thing so far (and i've already spent a few days on it and so far I am more than OK) that bugs me and I posted it in this thread.

Thanks for your time

Phil

help. strange black occurances in time line
 

i am editing a and creating the soundtrack for a short animation piece (9 minutes) on vegas 5.

the animatior gave me an avi file of the animation, compressed with Dvix on a cd. i of course, copied the avi file to my pc and imported it to the vegas project.

when viewing the animation track on the vegas timeline i noticed that there were 3 instances when the video strangely just went black for a few seconds. i checked the timeline and saw that there are three blacked out portions in the video.

i tried playing the avi file on 2 different media players and with both there were no blacked out sections as seen on vegas.

i tried closing vegas, creating a new project and importing the avi file again from scratch. the blacked out portions were still there and in the exact same places as before.

i asked the animator to render the animation again and make me a new cd. he did this, i loaded the new avi file and the blacks were still there. dispair.

what is happening? how is this possible? i must have a clean video track to work with.

by the way, the animator rendered the animation into an avi file using vegas 5.

Get www.virtualdub.org, load the media and set both the
video and audio to full processing mode. Then save a new avi
(this will be uncompressed and thus large!!!) and load this into
Vegas. Hopefully that should fix your problem.

DV 30p project to render as DV NTSC
 

I just noticed something bad ! This problem degraded my footage on a project before I noticed it.

I have a DV 30p project . I got DV footage shot in 30p. It looks great in my preview.

Then I render the project with AVI template "DV NTSC". This render will be used later in another 30p project. When I import that rendered clip back into Vegas using a 30p project, the quality is much less then the original 30p DV footage !!

I looked at the settings of the DV NTSC template to render and noticed the mode was set to lower field first. So I saved the original footage again as DV NTSV and this time I set it to progressive. I also saved a new custom template called "DV NTSC 30p" with that setting for future usage. The result was MUCH better ! The rendered footage looked exactly the same as the original footage.

The moral of the story. If you create a 30p DV project and want to render it out to the DV NTSC template. Make sure to change lower field to progressive or you'll get bad blurry quality. When using that rendered footage in another 30p project.

The reason I think it was blury is the following.

The project is 30p and tries to load a DV that it thinks is interlaced(created with the DV NTSC template), although each frame is clean progressive. What it then try to do is change interlaced into progressive ( although the actual data is already progressive ) using the blend fields option. That's why it becomes blury.

This is an easy thing to miss and that could cause quality degradation if you forget to set to progressive when rendering as AVI DV NTSC.

Frank

Actually it does it the other way around. It converts your progressive
footage in a form of interlaced footage. That is why it looks "worse"
than before.

You are totally correct that you should output as progressive. As
I have been saying tons of times here on the board, make sure
all your settings MATCH EXACTLY. That includes project settings,
footage properties and export settings!

Either that or have the original person send it to you in a decent format (i.e. DV-AVI).

Divx isn't officially supported in Vegas (although, for some reason, it seems lots of people want to use it).

thanks for the replies. edward, the only reason is size. being able to render the film so that it fits on a cd makes things much simpler. but maybe we just have to find some other method of being able to transfer the media from one to another. i didn't know vegas doesn't support Dvix. oh well.

<<<-- Originally posted by Adi Head : i didn't know vegas doesn't support Dvix. oh well. -->>>

doesn't "officially" support it. It can use any valid codec on your system, though.

Do Decklink HD Cards work with Vegas?
 

I want my next project to be shot on Sony HDCAM (1080 24p) but I still want to stay with Vegas. The Decklink solutions look nice (and well priced) but will they work with Vegas?

NYC Vegas users
 

On Monday, March 7th, we're holding a B&H/VASST open house/preview session for the "Now Hear This" training event being held at the New Yorker Hotel on the following day.
After the open house, the NYVUG will be holding their meeting. The meeting will be held in the New Yorker Hotel.

For any of you not in the NYC area that would like to attend the "Now Hear This" audio for video event, B&H is subsidizing the cost of the event so it's only $50.00 for a full day of audio for video training, presented by the VASST team. If you want more information on the agenda for the training day;

http://www.vasst.com/mailers/NHT_Agenda.htm will get you there.
Monday night 5:30-7:00- Free preview/social/training
Monday night 7:30-9:00- New York Vegas Users Group Meeting
2 special presents @ Vegas Users Group meeting.
a: HDV presentation w/new Sony Z1U camera, shooting, editing, delivering
b: Editing techniques, tools, plugins for Sony Vegas 5

$50.00 for the full day training.
Tuesday All Day 9:00-5:00
__________________

They are not totally integrated at this particular time, but you can ingest with the Decklink tools, and output via the Decklink tools while working in Vegas.

Spot,

Does this means you'd have to render your timeline to an uncompressed avi or quicktime and then export that via Decklink tools?

How does Vegas perform when working with 10bit uncompressed video files? (I think this is the highest quality SD setting for the blackmagic codec) Can Vegas still slice and dice like it does with DV footage, or does it lag a bit when working with such large files?

thanks
-jesse

Try this:


www.yousendit.com

If your uncompressed file doesn't go beoynd 1go you can upload it there and download it from there too .... this will cost you 0$

Pretty nifty site , use it while it lasts.

Phil

Auto-levels plug-in
 

Thought some of you might be interested in some video tests I did using the auto-levels plug-in.

Click here to see the results.

I use auto levels from time to time. My concerns with it are that in VERY low light, the levels add a ton of noise that some folks don't like and has a tendancy to flicker when lighting changes even a little.

That said, I had a reception where the lighting was pretty much candles only and had to use to auto levels just to bring out the speeches and didn't get any complaints.

NICE....
VERY nice.. just what we needed in Vegas too

thank you so much youve saved me ALOT of time :)

Veggie Toolkit 2.0 available with new enhanced Batch Rendering
 

Veggie Toolkit Version 2.0 is now available for download and purchase.

Version 2.0 features extensive enhancements to MultiRender, making it the most extensive and flexible batch rendering and media conversion tool available for Vegas. Media Manager (was Clip Logger) adds additional clip import and media pool export functions and media file management tools. The new Relinker tool quickly searchs and replaces offline media without unnecessary prompting.

New MultiRender features include:

- Search multiple folders for projects or media files (including wildcards)
- Batch conversion of media files
- Save and restore settings via presets
- Use any marker type as the selection to render
- Select multiple selections in a project
- Select multiple render templates per source
- Render fixed length segments for web delivery
- Add leader/trailer using generated media or media files at render time
- Add master video effects at render time
- Incremental rendering of long form projects
- Render history with status and elapsed render time
- Drag and drop support
- Import/Export of presets including merging presets
- Add jobs to queue while background rendering

Try the free, 15 day, fully functional trial version to see how the Veggie Toolkit can save you time and effort.

Randall Campbell
www.peachrock.com

Adi,

maybe this? (a am not vegas expert)

did you checked the frame rate? is the frame rate of this animation same as in project?

What DV Codec to use in Vegas ?
 

Hello !

In Vegas you can select to use Vegas DV codec or Microsoft DV Codec ( The one included in DirectX )

Which one would you suggest to use ?

Below are XL2 color bar captures:

Vegas DV Codec:
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/vegas_color.png

MS DV Codec:
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/ms_color.png

From looking at it I would say Vegas is better, but I'd like some input with reasons on which one to use.

Thanks !

From the color bar captures, it looks like Vegas is handling 7.5IRE setup correctly while the combination of Vegas + MS DV codec is not. If you want to use the MS DV codec (why?), then I think there's a fix for it.

2- Why the MS bars are wrong:
Look at the three tall dark rectangular boxes to the bottom right. They are the pluge bars.

On a computer monitor, you should see three bars.
On a television, you should see just the bar to the right. The other two bars should be black with no discernable line between them.

So Vegas codec it is then ! :-)

To be specific, when you do a Firewire capture, you are merely transferring data from the camcorder to the hard drive. There is NO codec involved in the transfer process. The video has already been encoded to DV format in the camcorder before it's written to tape. Technically, it is probably more accurate to call it a transfer instead of a capture.

Now, a DV codec is involved for decoding the steam off the hard drive for playback and displayed on the preview window on the computer monitor. It's also used for encoding whenever the original footage is modified in any way, like adding a title, filter or a transition. This requires that the original footage is decoded, modified and encoded back to DV. The Vegas DV codec is the best looking DV codec I have ever tested and the Microsoft DV codec is about the worst. There is absolutely NO reason to use the Microsoft DV codec in Vegas. EVER.

John

Still do not understand this 25p to 24p concept
 

Ok, so if I have 25p from PAL footage and want to convert to 24p I can just slow the footage down inside Vegas or FCP.

But then it is still in PAL format, right?

What is the actual workflow from PAL footage to 24p and then delivering on DVD to an NTSC market?

I have performed a search and read all the posts but still do not understand this concept.

Please help, thanks.

Excalibur tally light box to thick...
 

Love the Excalibur plugin, but -- how can I make the blue tally light box that surrounds each pip smaller (by default)? It's too thick and takes up too much space within the frame...

Thanks --

Although the Microsoft DV codec was the worst and looked bad,
it has gotten significantly better with newer versions of Windows
and Service Packs. On my system it looks as good as others.

HOWEVER, I would still advice you to use the default "Vegas" one
(actually it is the MainConcept DV codec). Stick with that. It
produces good results and it is the preferred choice.

No, you don't need to slow it down, you need to re-interpret the
footage. Here is how you do it:

1. make sure you have your movie (both video + sound) outputted as a PAL AVI file (may be DV in format), make sure your pixel aspect ratio + interlaced/progressive settings are correct

2. go to www.doom9.org, go to the download sections and download Avifrate 1.10 under AVI Editing tools section. Extract the program from the ZIP file, run it and open the AVI file from point 1 above. The frame rate should say 25.0. Change the framerate to 23.976 and click Apply. Close the program.

3. start Vegas and load one of the 24(p) NTSC templates. Go to File -> Import Media and select the AVI file. Make sure the framerate says 23.976 in the information section below, before opening the file

4. drag the file to the timeline. You should see that the audio and video are of different lengths. Right-click on the audio track and select Group -> Remove From

5. zoom in on the end of the movie and stretch out the audio to the exact same length of the video WHILE HOLDING THE CTRL key. This stretches the audio.

6. right-click on the video and choose properties, make sure the framerate is still 23.976 for the video

7. check to see if you audio and video are still in sync over the duration of the movie

8. export to MPEG-2 in the 24p format.

This should produce the result you are looking for

Rob,

The DV codec in Vegas was written 100% by the Sonic Foundry (now Sony) Vegas team. It is not the Main Concept DV codec. The MPEG2 encoder IS Main Concept's, but the DV codec is not.

John

So when do people have to do an actual PAL to NTSC convertion?

You are saying that all I have to do is slow the video and audio down a bit and the render out to MPEG2?

In what sisuation do people hat to actually do a convertions of PAL to NTSCE? I always hear it is difficlut and degrades quality.

What you are telling me to do is not actually a real PAL to NTSE conversion. Right?

4. drag the file to the timeline. You should see that the audio and video are of different lengths. Right-click on the audio track and select Group -> Remove From

Alternately, you could click on the audio and press "U" or turn on the "Ignore Event Grouping" button on the toolbar.

ALWAYS stick with the Vegas DV codec (unless you run into some unique situation that calls for something different). The Vegas DV codec (and, no, it is NOT an version of the MainConcept DV codec) and been tested through over 50 render generations to show virtually NO loss. If you do a search here I'm sure the tests were posted here.

It's using the default "Border" fx (Translucent Blue Border). I suppose you could change that border FX and it would use the revised version.

The next version will handle the tally differently and you will be able to do this task more easily (assuming you don't mind editing an image in your photo editor.)

XL2, Time Interval and Vegas
 

Has anyone tried to capture Time Interval footage shot with XL2 using Vegas ?

All I get is a small 1 second snipped part of the footage and that's all.

I had to capture it using a very old copy of MediaStudio 6.0 .

Anyone knows what to do so Vegas captures it correctly ?

Here is the clip I finally made:

http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/fast.wmvx

Just take out the x at the end when downloaded

Thanks !

Frank

problem with split screens when tracks overlay
 

Hello all,

Well, here's the thing; not a big problem but curious and annoying.

Some few, not all, clips on track #1 will appear in the output viewer window to *incompletely* cover the underlying clip in track #2. Likewise for track 2 overlaying track 3.

A vertical black bar appears down the right or left side of the screen and the underlying clip is seen behind the track 1 clip.

This does not happen all the time. In one case I deleted the event (clip) on track 1 and then re-inserted at exactly the same place and it was fine, 100% coverage. I don't even think it occurs upon insertion but as the result of some later operation.

This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the fade or fx on the event, or the clip properties. Split screen is off and I've tried several different settings for the viewer (draft-full, preview-auto). It even renders out this way; to .avi.

My guess is that I'm doing something wrong or have some option set that I don't know about.


many thanks,
Lorraine

thanks for your reply filip, but it isn't a frame rate issue. both avi file and project are at 25 fps. i think it really may be the fact that vegas doesn't "officially" support dvix, as edward pointed out. if i happen to run into anything simillar when using a vegas supported media, i'll let you guys know.