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Dale Peterson · July 30th, 2009, 11:28 PM

Oh boy, forum noob here needs help.

I'm using Vegas 8.0a, Vista 64 bit, and a Canon XH A1.

I just shot some tests, just over 6 minutes worth. I went to capture in Vegas, and all was working as it should. When I came back into the room, I saw that I had clips Testing100.m2t through Testing743.m2t so I was worried right away. I now have 643 individual m2t files for my quick test. (It was a single shot, although I did change settings, I never paused or stopped, if that matters for this). The shot was 24F, my changes were aperature, shutter speed, etc...

When I drop the clips on the timeline, there is a small gap between each frame, and I have no audio (Just me talking of the camera settings using on cam mic, and playback on the cam is fine, audio included.)

Somehow I clicked on something, but I have no idea what I did. How did I lose the audio and end up with 643 m2t files with a gap between each file on the timeline? Please let me know what other info I can post to help out.

Thank you!

Chris Barcellos · July 30th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Sounds like an issue with the firewire cable or hard drive you are capturing to.
Do you have another firewire cable. Are you capturing to a USB drive ?

First thing I would do is download HDVSplit (free capture utility) and try capturing through it. See what you get there.

Dale Peterson · July 30th, 2009, 11:52 PM

Currently using the same physical drive for capture as where Vegas is installed. Camera is connected via Firewire, and the drive is internal. I used this same setup less than a week ago with a 1.5 hour capture...

Dale Peterson · July 31st, 2009, 12:12 AM

I ran the capture again. I must have had the wrong project settings (which I thought I double checked), because with the new project at 23.976 I don't have a gap when I drop the m2t files on the timeline. I'm still getting 600 files, so that is next.

I'll add a second drive and see if that changes anything....

Perrone Ford · July 31st, 2009, 12:16 AM

Check this setting:

Open Capture utility. On the menu click Preferences. Capture Tab. "Enable DV Scene Detection". If that's checked, turn it off and try again.

[Edit]

Oops.. ignore that. You're in HDV not DV. It's late, and this Nyquil isn't helping me be coherent!

Chris Barcellos · July 31st, 2009, 12:20 AM

Try HDVSplit. If you can't capture with that, then I am guessing it is a firewire issue- either port or cable.

So I assume your camera or capture device hasn't been switched to convert the output to DV or something like that.

Dale Peterson · July 31st, 2009, 01:21 AM

All righty,

So I added a second hard drive, no changes. I added a second firewire card, no changes. Then I ran another quick test on a second tape, just in case, no changes. I kept getting hundreds of m2t files. (and, the gap between files "reappeared" even though I know the frame rate settings were correct.)

Next I updated to 8.0c, and now everything is magically back to normal. Single clip, one m2t file, audio is included, etc... just how it is supposed to be. So, although I am obviously glad that this works, I am still unsettled how this happened in the first place.

Even though it is ok for me now, if others have thoughts or similar experience, I'd still like to hear those comments...

Thanks.

Steven Reid · July 31st, 2009, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Peterson

All righty,

So I added a second hard drive, no changes. I added a second firewire card, no changes. Then I ran another quick test on a second tape, just in case, no changes. I kept getting hundreds of m2t files. (and, the gap between files "reappeared" even though I know the frame rate settings were correct.)

Next I updated to 8.0c, and now everything is magically back to normal. Single clip, one m2t file, audio is included, etc... just how it is supposed to be. So, although I am obviously glad that this works, I am still unsettled how this happened in the first place.

Even though it is ok for me now, if others have thoughts or similar experience, I'd still like to hear those comments...

Thanks.

Dale, your experience with 8.0a echoes a concern that I once had and that prompted me start this thread concerning compatibility of Canon's 24f mode with Vegas. An update of 8.0 (b-->c) fixed a capture issue from the XH-A1. Since I also shoot on this cam, I was obviously keen to appreciate that 8.0 captures correctly before I bought all of my stuff.

Steve

July 30th, 2009, 11:28 PM	#1
Dale Peterson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 22	What Did I Do? Oh boy, forum noob here needs help. I'm using Vegas 8.0a, Vista 64 bit, and a Canon XH A1. I just shot some tests, just over 6 minutes worth. I went to capture in Vegas, and all was working as it should. When I came back into the room, I saw that I had clips Testing100.m2t through Testing743.m2t so I was worried right away. I now have 643 individual m2t files for my quick test. (It was a single shot, although I did change settings, I never paused or stopped, if that matters for this). The shot was 24F, my changes were aperature, shutter speed, etc... When I drop the clips on the timeline, there is a small gap between each frame, and I have no audio (Just me talking of the camera settings using on cam mic, and playback on the cam is fine, audio included.) Somehow I clicked on something, but I have no idea what I did. How did I lose the audio and end up with 643 m2t files with a gap between each file on the timeline? Please let me know what other info I can post to help out. Thank you!

July 30th, 2009, 11:42 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Sounds like an issue with the firewire cable or hard drive you are capturing to. Do you have another firewire cable. Are you capturing to a USB drive ? First thing I would do is download HDVSplit (free capture utility) and try capturing through it. See what you get there. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

July 31st, 2009, 12:16 AM	#5
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Check this setting: Open Capture utility. On the menu click Preferences. Capture Tab. "Enable DV Scene Detection". If that's checked, turn it off and try again. [Edit] Oops.. ignore that. You're in HDV not DV. It's late, and this Nyquil isn't helping me be coherent! __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

July 31st, 2009, 12:20 AM	#6
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Try HDVSplit. If you can't capture with that, then I am guessing it is a firewire issue- either port or cable. So I assume your camera or capture device hasn't been switched to convert the output to DV or something like that. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

July 30th, 2009, 11:52 PM	#3
Dale Peterson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 22	Currently using the same physical drive for capture as where Vegas is installed. Camera is connected via Firewire, and the drive is internal. I used this same setup less than a week ago with a 1.5 hour capture...

July 31st, 2009, 12:12 AM	#4
Dale Peterson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 22	I ran the capture again. I must have had the wrong project settings (which I thought I double checked), because with the new project at 23.976 I don't have a gap when I drop the m2t files on the timeline. I'm still getting 600 files, so that is next. I'll add a second drive and see if that changes anything....

July 31st, 2009, 01:21 AM	#7
Dale Peterson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 22	All righty, So I added a second hard drive, no changes. I added a second firewire card, no changes. Then I ran another quick test on a second tape, just in case, no changes. I kept getting hundreds of m2t files. (and, the gap between files "reappeared" even though I know the frame rate settings were correct.) Next I updated to 8.0c, and now everything is magically back to normal. Single clip, one m2t file, audio is included, etc... just how it is supposed to be. So, although I am obviously glad that this works, I am still unsettled how this happened in the first place. Even though it is ok for me now, if others have thoughts or similar experience, I'd still like to hear those comments... Thanks.