Re: Vimeo "Adaptive Streaming" ??
 

My defaulted playback quality is very depended on the time of day and varies between 360p and 1080p, on one of my website some older videos have not been included in the adaptive streaming and now at 8 in the morning they play at 1080p with no buffering.

A recent video on my new website however is included in the adaptive streaming plays at that same time with setting to "auto" but it looks low rez, when I then select 360p the IQ doesn't change so that means "auto" is at this time 360p, when I then select 1080p it also plays without a problem.

I only wish they would let us choose 720p as default and not force 360p upon us, especially when there is no indication whatsoever the video needs to be at 360p to play back without buffering.

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As a long-time Vimeo subscriber (Plus and then Pro), I would like to make two comments:

1. That Google search puts Vimeo at a disadvantage is precisely the anti-competitive behavior that Google has been cited for by the European Commission. YouTube is a part of Google and Vimeo is a direct competitor. There is nothing we can do about this, but blaming Vimeo is odd. Try Bing, at least it is not biased vis a vis these two competitors. I do not think Microsoft owns a video streaming site.

2. It used to be the case that you could tell Vimeo to make the default streaming 1080 rather than 720. The videos looked better (mine were uploaded as 4K), but viewers would complain they could not watch the videos because of excessive buffering. And they could not do anything about it. They and you had less options than now. What do we have now?

Vimeo provides options from 360p to 4K, including 2K, for 4K videos. The viewer can choose which one she wants to stream at. There is more choice. This is friendly to the content providers (us) and them. My viewers can stream my 4K videos at 4K if they can do it. and if they cannot, they can chose the highest resolution they can stream at, not fixed for them at 720p or 1080p.

So I tell potential viewers (your clients) to click on the lower rhs 'Vimeo' to choose how they would like to view. And they will see all those choices. I tell them the video is 4K, and that would be best, but 1080 looks great too, if they can handle it. It is only uniformed viewers - not your clients - that do not know there is a choice. Perhaps Vimeo could make that clearer to all viewers

Finally, YouTube does exactly the same thing. YouTube picks some default and I always have to override. And it buffers worse than Vimeo, apart from what looks to me like lower quality at the same resolution.

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Mark, you make a good point. However, I would still like to be able to set the minimum size as either 540 or 720 as 360 just doesn't cut it.

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What I hear is whining over nothing, just to give yourself something to be all rabble rabble over.

It's sad.[/QUOTE]

Well personal attacks, even though more folks than myself have shown concern over this problem, show you really don't have a lot to reply with.
And you still don't seem to grasp that Vimeo is a video hosting service. It's clients are people like you and me. Therefore its only good business sense that they should offer what their clients want, not what Vimeo thinks is best. I also question why you feel your own clientele would have such a problem selecting their own resolution and in fact know enough about their bandwidth to choose for themselves. You feel Vimeo knows their preferences better than they do?

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I"m doing that now by adding a line of text on my photoprints that I use as image in the player window, it also has an arrow pointing to the HD button saying they have to click there to get a better quality. A bit silly but so far the best way to assure they are not watching my demo's at 360p and think their film will also have that same quality.

I have asked my wife when she watches youtube videos if she ever selects a higher quality playback if the film looked low rez, she didn't even know the option was there...She does however often watches full screen which makes the problem only worse.

I"m pretty sure the same applies for vimeo, if it plays back at 360p most brides will not click the HD button for a higher quality, they will however switch to full screen, that's why I find that at least 720p as selectable default would be the best starting point for good enough playback quality.


The best way to respond to personal attacks is not to respond at all.

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Hey Noa,

For a while now, on all my family's computers, if we click full screen on on a YouTube video, it automatically switches to HD automatically. The red HD symbol pops onscreen a second or two, or three after going full screen without clicking anything other than full screen. It also happens on the videos embedded on my website. And all the ones that are 1080P show as 1080P when I click the settings button. The videos that I uploaded 720P in the past show a 720P setting.

I don't know when YouTube changed this. It used to require two steps. Settings button and full screen button, or reversed, but still both. It's a nice feature. So clients in my area should see the same thing happening when they go full screen. Don't know if it's the same world wide or not. My observations are limited to what I see in my area (and short trips to client sites out of the area). People do seem more familiar with full screen button than the settings icon.

I haven't checked if this occurs with tablets and smartphones yet. It would be nice if YouTube has set things up to play maximum supported resolution on whatever device is being used when going full screen, within the constraints of the upload resolution, of course.

I wish Google was as responsive to my business needs as a photographer as it seems to be to my needs as a videographer. The plug is being pulled on Picassa Web Albums by Google. It's been useful hosting photo albums for clients like YouTube has met the video hosting needs for my business. The photos will all still be there on Google Photos, but all the work organizing the albums and metadata will be gone in about two weeks. In the back of my mind, I wonder if the same thing could happen to YouTube channels as Picassa albums. One client of mine, I have more than 150 albums uploaded and neatly organized on the Picassa site.

However, Google says they are improving Google Photo as it replaces Picassa albums. I hope Google really is focused on client needs as they appear to be, for my business needs at least, with the YouTube channels. It's hard for me to judge. Like any business, Google is trying to optimize their business. Usually, the best approach is to serve your clients better than the competition does. Companies that are successful long term know this. So I have hope Google really will replace Picassa web albums with something better. I also have concerns... So I keep my eyes open to alternatives.

In summary, we all need to carefully make decisions what works best for our clients. That's what will work best for our businesses. I make choices differently now as a business owner than I did eight years ago as a when both video and photo were hobbies. Decisions now are cost vs. benefit. If I am to pay yet another subscription fee for my business, it needs to be worth it. QuickBooks, Adobe, Avid, etc. are all primarily subscription based now, along with required bills like insurance, taxes... There are more bills now for my business. It adds up. The budget for my business is tight. Everything needs to be justified. Glad to have a quality video hosting option for free. Don't know how long it will last... It may disappear like the free photo albums, and then I'll need to make a good decision again.

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Vimeo has yet again made some changes but not in a good way, I saw this being reported by other users so it's not a isolated case.

A few times I have noticed that when I play one of my videos and when I click the HD button to select 720p or 1080p playback the player will after a few seconds revert from your selected quality back to a low resolution "auto" playback and the difference is very obvious, it's no higher then 360p for sure.

So now they don't even let you choose anymore what quality you want to be viewing. Not everyone seems to be affected by it and it's not clear to me what triggers this behavior, I"ll think I will just start by removing the full screen playback option and force people to view in a smaller screen.

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Add this to your link code when you embed ?quality=1080p

Instructions from vimeo at https://vimeo.com/help/faq/sharing-v...icular-quality

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Is this new? It doesn't work in my case, playback stays at "auto"

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I doesn't show up there as 1080p. It just over-rides the adaptive streaming and plays at 1080p. Yes it is new.

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I have tested and it doesn't make any difference in playbackquality, too bad, sounded too good to be true, or maybe it just doesn't work in my case only.

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I read elsewhere that this "loophole" (post #48) no longer works/has been disabled. Not tried it myself yet so cannot verify this personally.