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Ron Wilk July 16th, 2009 12:40 PM

EX3-Cavision Matte Box and 4x3 filters
 
Just wondering if anyone with the aforementioned combination has tried using 4x3 filters in the rear, rotatable filter holder.
I seem to have a plethora of 4x3 graduated filters left over from my medium format days and have found that they fit into the rear holder of the Cavision but when oriented for proper graduated effect there is a 1/2 gap, as one would expect for a 4x4 holder, on the left and right sides of the holder. The gap, however, is slightly beyond (lateral to) the lens opening and might not be an issue but I am concerned about the possibility of light leaks and before I risk marring the edge of the filters with gaffer tape I was hoping that someone might have already tried this combination.

Thank you in advance.

Olof Ekbergh July 17th, 2009 06:24 AM

You can simply cut 2 1/8" x 4" x 1/2" black plastic strips and make them fit tight on the sides of glass to be used when using undersize filters.

Or even order a replacement holder from Cavision and customize it for smaller filters by epoxying them into filter frame, you may also need to relocate or shorten springs. This should be a fairly easy job.

Ron Wilk July 17th, 2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Olof Ekbergh (Post 1172891)
You can simply cut 2 1/8" x 4" x 1/2" black plastic strips and make them fit tight on the sides of glass to be used when using undersize filters.

Or even order a replacement holder from Cavision and customize it for smaller filters by epoxying them into filter frame, you may also need to relocate or shorten springs. This should be a fairly easy job.

Excellent idea (more reasonable than gaffer's tape) and before reading your post this morning I rummaged through the studio looking for suitable plastic of an acceptable thickness but, alas, none was to be found but locating a sheet somewhere should be possible.
Thanks again.

Olof Ekbergh July 17th, 2009 09:56 AM

You can order here.

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Ron Wilk July 17th, 2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Olof Ekbergh (Post 1172959)

Hello and thank you for the link.
It appears that I would be required to order an entire sheet (48x96) for, in the range of $100.00. I may try searching for a piece of scrap, after all, all I really need are two pieces of plastic 1/2" wide and +/- 4" long.

Jeff DeMaagd July 18th, 2009 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wilk (Post 1173061)
Hello and thank you for the link.
It appears that I would be required to order an entire sheet (48x96) for, in the range of $100.00. I may try searching for a piece of scrap, after all, all I really need are two pieces of plastic 1/2" wide and +/- 4" long.

How thin would you like? I think I might have a small scrap piece of black Delrin type plastic that I can send you for the cost of postage. If you can get an exact measurement, I can probably laser cut a piece for a modest cost.

Ron Wilk July 18th, 2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff DeMaagd (Post 1173289)
How thin would you like? I think I might have a small scrap piece of black Delrin type plastic that I can send you for the cost of postage. If you can get an exact measurement, I can probably laser cut a piece for a modest cost.

Hello and thank you for the offer. I will take the measurements and post back to you.

Ron

Ron Wilk July 19th, 2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff DeMaagd (Post 1173289)
How thin would you like? I think I might have a small scrap piece of black Delrin type plastic that I can send you for the cost of postage. If you can get an exact measurement, I can probably laser cut a piece for a modest cost.

I have made several test shots with the 4x3 filters in the Cavision's rear filter holder and, so far, there have been no light leaks suggesting that the baffles and flags are doing a good job and that fillers may not be necessary. In addition, after careful consideration, if fillers were to be required, a small piece of high density foam might be more practical than rigid plastic given the anticipated need for a tight fit as well as allowing for easy removal of the filter.
Thanks again for your offer, it was genuinely appreciated.


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