EX3 newbie (and mini XDCAM ex) !! at DVinfo.net

Enrique Orozco Robles · January 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM

I finally took the decision for the EX3 over other cheaper options.... "life is short" was one of my factors.... Just received and playing with the camera... it's an amazing piece of equipment... no problems found yet (as mentioned on this forum: focus, distortions, etc.) ....

and just waiting for my MxR adapters .... put my AB Dionic 90 (with the AB QR-EX3 adapter) and improves a lot (balance, lots of power to spare and "look")... I think I'll never going to use the Sony battery/charger included ....

one request from a client: "I want my HD master files as well as my DVD..." ... He doesn´t know anything about BVAP folders, mxf files, etc. just want the HD files (preferably edited and finished, just like the DVD movie)... I know I can make a BluRay, but for files, what format is recomended ?? are mts (HD with audio) good enough ??

.... and I just found this:

JVC Professional Features page

seems to be like a mini XDCAM ex, even recording to 2 SDHC !!

Kind Regards and best wishes for 2009

Steve Shovlar · January 9th, 2009, 10:18 AM

Very ineterssting little camera and possibly ideal as a second/backup cam.

Any idea on price?

Peter Kraft · January 9th, 2009, 10:33 AM

Could replace my Sony HC1 / A1

Jay Gladwell · January 9th, 2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enrique Orozco Robles

... one request from a client: "I want my HD master files as well as my DVD..." ... He doesn´t know anything about BVAP folders, mxf files, etc. just want the HD files (preferably edited and finished, just like the DVD movie)...

Master files = camera originals, where I come from. Put the ball back in his court. Ask the client what file types he wants.

Gerry Curtis · January 9th, 2009, 10:50 AM

I was at the Final Cut Pro Super Meet in SF where they debuted the camera and I believe they said it would be $3500 and be released in April. A more pro version will be coming out as well. Uses the same XDCAM codec as the Ex-1 and Ex-3, only the camera generates ready to edit quicktimes, so no fussing with BPAV folders.

Enrique Orozco Robles · January 9th, 2009, 11:16 AM

thank you Jay... the client wants HD masters that can be viewed, at least on PC/MAC ... that's why I'm asking about mts files ... and maybe recomend some of the new options to connect on HDTVs (like WD media player....) .... the masters can be also useful for future burning to BluRay discs .......

Is he asking too much ????

Kind Regards

Craig Seeman · January 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM

BPAV can certainly be viewed on both Mac and Windows. Free Sony Clip Browser is all they'll need.

VLC will also play the MP4 (they've fixed the no sound issue in recent versions).

The files can be rewraped to MXF or MOV but they're going to need to do more work to play those.
If you re-encode to another codec they're no longer masters since you'll introduce quality loss (however slight depending on the compression).

Clients need to understand what MASTER means.

Alister Chapman · January 9th, 2009, 03:29 PM

Over here a master would normally mean the programme Master or Master Copy of the finished edit. The clips from the camera would be the rushes or footage.

Craig Seeman · January 9th, 2009, 04:13 PM

Actually rushes used to be a film term as was footage (of course both may still be). The client might ask for rushes but they were not handed the camera masters unless they were walking with them (post job going elsewhere). If the client wanted to view "rushes" they were handed a dub.

The facilities I've worked at labeled video coming from the camera "camera master" and from the edit session "edit master" or "program master."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

Over here a master would normally mean the programme Master or Master Copy of the finished edit. The clips from the camera would be the rushes or footage.

January 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM	#1
Enrique Orozco Robles Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chihuahua MEXICO Posts: 146	EX3 newbie (and mini XDCAM ex) !! I finally took the decision for the EX3 over other cheaper options.... "life is short" was one of my factors.... Just received and playing with the camera... it's an amazing piece of equipment... no problems found yet (as mentioned on this forum: focus, distortions, etc.) .... and just waiting for my MxR adapters .... put my AB Dionic 90 (with the AB QR-EX3 adapter) and improves a lot (balance, lots of power to spare and "look")... I think I'll never going to use the Sony battery/charger included .... one request from a client: "I want my HD master files as well as my DVD..." ... He doesn´t know anything about BVAP folders, mxf files, etc. just want the HD files (preferably edited and finished, just like the DVD movie)... I know I can make a BluRay, but for files, what format is recomended ?? are mts (HD with audio) good enough ?? .... and I just found this: JVC Professional Features page seems to be like a mini XDCAM ex, even recording to 2 SDHC !! Kind Regards and best wishes for 2009 __________________ Enrique Orozco - Sony/JVC/Nikon/Panny cams, DJI/Yuneec drones, VegasPro www.aerofilm.com.mx

January 9th, 2009, 10:50 AM	#5
Gerry Curtis Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 54	New JVC Cam I was at the Final Cut Pro Super Meet in SF where they debuted the camera and I believe they said it would be $3500 and be released in April. A more pro version will be coming out as well. Uses the same XDCAM codec as the Ex-1 and Ex-3, only the camera generates ready to edit quicktimes, so no fussing with BPAV folders.

January 9th, 2009, 11:16 AM	#6
Enrique Orozco Robles Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chihuahua MEXICO Posts: 146	thank you Jay... the client wants HD masters that can be viewed, at least on PC/MAC ... that's why I'm asking about mts files ... and maybe recomend some of the new options to connect on HDTVs (like WD media player....) .... the masters can be also useful for future burning to BluRay discs ....... Is he asking too much ???? Kind Regards __________________ Enrique Orozco - Sony/JVC/Nikon/Panny cams, DJI/Yuneec drones, VegasPro www.aerofilm.com.mx

January 9th, 2009, 03:29 PM	#8
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Over here a master would normally mean the programme Master or Master Copy of the finished edit. The clips from the camera would be the rushes or footage. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

January 9th, 2009, 10:18 AM	#2
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Very ineterssting little camera and possibly ideal as a second/backup cam. Any idea on price?

January 9th, 2009, 10:33 AM	#3
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Could replace my Sony HC1 / A1

January 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM	#7
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	BPAV can certainly be viewed on both Mac and Windows. Free Sony Clip Browser is all they'll need. VLC will also play the MP4 (they've fixed the no sound issue in recent versions). The files can be rewraped to MXF or MOV but they're going to need to do more work to play those. If you re-encode to another codec they're no longer masters since you'll introduce quality loss (however slight depending on the compression). Clients need to understand what MASTER means.