B&H and EX1 for $6099
 

seems price are going down...
and you can get $100 off +1 8gig SxS on special rebate.

Thats exactly with import duties and VAT here € 6099.

No reason to get excited yet. But the new trend is highly appreciated.

Since i am located in switzerland, the VAT is 7% and not 19% as rest of europe, so it is not so important.
regular price for EX1 here in switzerland is around $8400, it is about the same price you get in euros.
add some accessories (battery, wide angle) and you better jump to NY to get it.

Now lets see the PDW-700 go down.

I'd rather prefer Singapore or Tokyo. Anyone with a current price there?

yes globalmediapro is rating EX1 at $5,790.00
but since this seller has very mid rating, for sure you better need to go to New-zealand by yourself.

Starting to sound like Sony has something new on the burner or why would they discount a great selling camera?

I'm sure sales are slowing with the economy the way it is. This camera has at least another 2-3 years in it. About the only thing that would really shake things up is if they changed the on-board codec to allow an intra-frame. Or if they were working on an SDHC back end.

It's possible they are working on something to compete favorably with the Panasonic HMC-150.

I agree Perrone it won't go off the market too great a camera for the money but it might be tweaked. OK enough of me speculating.

Hi

I was told the EX3 has dramatically slowed down EX1 sales and that there are lots of
EX1's sitting in warehouses. They are just trying to move them.

Chuck

Makes sense. I wonder what woud happen if they priced it the same as the HVX200a or the HPX170...

Chuck that makes sense instead of my rant.

And I wouldn't be surprised if we see an EX-5 at NAB 2009 but I doubt it would be a replacement for 1 or 3. I think product development may slow given the economy (depending on how long that lasts). I don't think we'll see replacement for EX-1 until NAB 2010 and it could be even longer.

Look at how long the HVX200 was around before even a 200a hit the market.

I guess this is the year I finally go to NAB in April. EX5 Hum interesting.

Expandore Singapore is selling EX1 at $6000. With standard accessories and 1 8G card

ex5 single full frame (35mm) sensor, 4.2.2.? :)

John, thanks a lot. Good news :-)

P.

For 3D stereoscopic capturing ;-)

You don't think Sony will try and make a Red killer out of the Ex5? Seems like a smart and relatively easy thing to do. Take an Ex3, replace the sensor block with a single 35mm sensor, maybe out of one of their DSLRs. Then figure out how to get the bandwidth needed for 4.2.2. color space and boom.. Red what? Sorry I have an Ex5.

:)

Just like that eh Erik?

And how do you plan to store those new 35mm sized images? In XDCam 4:2:0? Or do you change the codec structure to make the EX5 incompatible with the rest of everthing else Sony makes? Or maybe they write HDCamSR like the F900R? But now you'll need two SDI ports to get it off the camera. That 32GB SxS card on board should hold about 3 minutes of data! Awesome! :)

It's Sony..they build it and expect us to find a way to use it... LOL

I think a RED killer would be a different product line.

I was thinking the EX5 might be a true shoulder mount and/or if they get pull off the technical side of it a 2/3" chip. Maybe as the 700 is to XDCAM disc the EX5 is sort of an SxS equivalent giving the someone to buy into one or the other workflow.

Uh Oh, I think a hear Chris Hurd's footsteps and the Area 51 teleporter.

Just seems to me that the single chip 35mm sensor cameras are the next wave. the "small chip" 3 RGB cameras will never give the film like depth of field that apparently everybody wants. With all the 35mm DSLRs starting to take really good HD video and the buzz created by the REDs..

Maybe there won't be an EX5. Just skip right over and make the XF35 or whatever.

NY is going down in price, Amsterdam's going up... Here in Holland prices for the EX series have gone up since December 1 by 7%

Jeroen

to be a RED killer, you do not need to be better.
just giving the same "feature and useability" for less money.
most of people are happy with 4:2:0 and full HD, just push the bandwith to 50Mb/s (SxS will accept that), make the camera way cheaper than any RED, add some nice feature like some nice cheap storage solution (128gig SSD ?) and excellent optics , offer a simple and easy workflow , put a SONY logo on it.
in brief would be a kind of EX3 on testosterone....

Happy with 4.2.0?

How would Sony bring out such an EX5 Red-Killer, and expect people to still pay 100k for a F-900 or an F35?
The reason why Red can bring out such disruptive technology is because they have no boundaries. They are a little company, with a small (but hard working) team, that only want to make the best possible camera's at the best possible prices.
They don't have a high-end market to protect. Sony does.

Very true, but if they don't. Eventually even the "big guys" won't buy them.
I'm sure RED has sparked many companies into competition. This is always good for the end user.

Look what's happened with LCD and plasma... really inexpensive for good quality.

To add to what Steven just posted, one could argue that the EX1 and especially the EX3 shouldn't have happened because it would eat into F335/F355 sales.

Sony's SxS eats into the sales of P2 cameras.

It certainly does make sense (probably inevitable) that they'll be something like an EX5. I think it'll be aimed at the higher end P2 cameras though. Sony probably needs a shoulder mount SxS camera for that.

Sony's approach to RED may be different (a different product line entirely) but I wouldn't be surprised if that's on a drawing board already. It'll be interesting to see if Sony enters that market and how they'll differentiate themselves. It may well be the codec just as part of the SxS vs P2 is XDCAM Long GOP vs DVCProHD.

Is somebody on a RED budget really competing with an F35? I don't think so.

Is EX1 still in production? I thought EX3 was supposed to be a replacement model. EX3 is so new, I wonder if EX5 at NAB09 is realistic. It's not like the consumer market where somehow you're expected to make a new model every year.

EX3 is not a replacement model. It's an upgrade cam with more features and a higher price.