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Craig Seeman June 12th, 2008 07:14 AM

New Final Cut Pro XDCAM EX plugin from Sony
 
http://www.sony.ca/xdcamex/software.htm

This shows up on the Canadian Sony site. It supposedly allows one to use FCP's Log and Transfer utility/interface rather than XDCAM Transfer Tool.

Is it showing up anywhere else?

Ned Soltz June 12th, 2008 07:21 AM

Haven't seen that yet. Will download later today and give it a try.

Thanks!

Ned

Craig Seeman June 12th, 2008 07:58 AM

Ironically the same link only has XDCAM Transfer 2.5.1 although 2.7 is available.

For those who keep track of Sony's odd product numbering system, the new plugin is PDZK-LT1

As noted in the docs, one must have FCP 6.0.3 whereas other utilities will work the FCP 6.0.2. I believe 6.0.3 happens with QT 7.4.5 (and obviously 7.5).

Ned Soltz June 12th, 2008 08:40 AM

Works perfectly

Andrew Hollister June 12th, 2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman (Post 891937)
Ironically the same link only has XDCAM Transfer 2.5.1 although 2.7 is available.

Its simple math really... that has to do with that damn metric system. You see:
Canada (weirdos that say 'eh') .5.1 =
US (totally awesome pricks) .7

Because Canadians multiply everything by 0.728571428571429

It really gets weird in the 7.1 Surround Sound world
Believe all that, I have an EX 9.3 to sell...

Barry J. Anwender June 12th, 2008 10:55 AM

Yes the plug-in does indeed work!

Ned Soltz June 12th, 2008 01:02 PM

Used to live in Toronto.... Was always disgusted with every form of Canadian protectionism. But you've got to love a country that has "Canadian content" laws but would count re-runs of Bonanza as Canadian content since Lorne Greene was from Ottawa!

Dave Morrison June 12th, 2008 06:02 PM

I'm thankful for the Canadian Content rule. Otherwise, I never would have been able to enjoy "Bob and Doug" in The Great White North...."take off, eh"

Barry J. Anwender June 12th, 2008 06:55 PM

Ned, your point brings back fond memories as a prairie farm boy and "stubble jumper". Used to love watching Bonanza after coming in from doing the choirs. And yes those "hosers" in the CRTC did bend the content rules, so we could watch Lorne Greene again and again and ... Gave me a mysterious appreciation for Greene's latter role as Adama in original Battle Star Galactica series. It's been so mysterious that I am forced to admit I am a sci-fi addict. How's that for being traumatized by Canadian Content :-)

Andrew Hollister June 12th, 2008 08:06 PM

Trying. to. put. lid. back. on. can. of. worms. he. opened.

But at least you have that Alanis Morrisette and Celine Dion.

Thomas Smet June 12th, 2008 08:10 PM

and real bacon... oops...

Craig Seeman June 13th, 2008 12:06 PM

Well now Canada can show any program originated anywhere with any actors as long as shot on EX and edited in FCP since one might assume they're all imported using Sony Canada's FCP Plugin.

Someone did post somewhere that it's up in China too though.

Does this make Canada and China the Sony EX software beta testers for Europe/USA?

Steve Cahill June 14th, 2008 07:06 PM

Card does not seem to mount in the Log & Transfer window, mounted on desktop just fine and XDCAM Transfer App see it and display clips, just fine, but no deal with the Plug-in for FCP got the latest versions. 6.03

Any ideas?

Ned Soltz June 14th, 2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cahill (Post 893171)
Card does not seem to mount in the Log & Transfer window, mounted on desktop just fine and XDCAM Transfer App see it and display clips, just fine, but no deal with the Plug-in for FCP got the latest versions. 6.03

Any ideas?

Make certain card is mounted. Then use the buttons on the log and transfer window to find the card. I had to do that on one occasion.

Ned

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 05:19 AM

Card is mounted on desktop. I navigate to the card via the Log and Transfer window, just will not see it.

Where does your plug-in get installed in the OS when you did the install? I need to check to see if it is even getting installed, it said it had a successful install.

I have previous installed the application called "ShotPut" @ http://www.imagineproducts.com/ShotPut_EXpress.html

I wonder if it is stepping on the plug-in? This is all on my MAC 10.5.3

Ned Soltz June 15th, 2008 07:08 AM

I'm using Shotput Express as well. No problems with recognizing the card in Log and Transfer.

Perhaps you might want to try reinstalling the plugin.

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 07:30 AM

4th time re-installed no luck Can you tell me where your plug-in is going and what the name of the Plug-in is.

Barry J. Anwender June 15th, 2008 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cahill (Post 893291)
Where does your plug-in get installed in the OS when you did the install? I need to check to see if it is even getting installed, it said it had a successful install. This is all on my MAC 10.5.3

Steve check to see if plug-in is located as follows:

Title Sony XDCAM EX Log and Transfer Plug-in

DefaultLocation /Library/Application Support/ProApps/MIO/RAD/Plugins

I am working on a MacPro (Early 2008) 3.2Ghz Octo, 16GB memory, Leo 10.5.3, FCP 6.0.3

Remember that as per Sony's requirements, you need FCP 6.0.3 for this to work. I installed and it works first time around. Check the documentation that came with plug-in to make sure you are using the proper steps to start and use the plug-in.

MacOS X does NOT require one to reinstall software again - that is a WinDoze thing. Cheers!

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 07:54 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Plugins folder:

Library

Applications support

Final Cut Pro System Support

Plugins


See the attached screen grab, Jpeg of my plug-in's. Anything look similar to your plugins:
I see the SonyImportPlugin.bundle with a date of July 6, 2006. Looks like this could be it but the date looks wrong.

Barry J. Anwender June 15th, 2008 08:01 AM

Steve, I notice that your SonyExportPlugin.bundle and the Sony ImportPlugin.bundle are dated Jul6, 2006.

You are working with an outdated version of the Sony XDCAM Transfer application.
You need to install version 2.7.0 (387) dated May 9, 2008, verify in the "Get Info" pane. Correct this and then give the Log & Transfer plug-in a go.

Make sure to check and see that the Log & Transfer plug-in is in the location I provided above. That path came from the plug-in installer package and it checks out on my system. This plug-in is an executable that works with XDCAM Transfer application, hence the latter needs to be up to date.

I am off to work now, but I will check in this afternoon to see if you got this to work. Good Luck!

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 08:32 AM

Got the DefaultLocation /Library/Application Support/ProApps/MIO/RAD/Plugins
that is there, good sign, install worked

The XDCAM transfer Application I have is 2.5.1 but need to find the version: 2.7.0 (387) dated May 9, 2008. Any pointers to a download site? One of the Sony sites downloads is down.

Thanks for your help!

Dave Morrison June 15th, 2008 09:52 AM

Here you go, Steve:
http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/ShowC...veContext=true

That might have gotten broken in the word wrap.

dave

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 12:51 PM

Version 2.7.0 did the trick. Very slow to display the clips on this MAC 2.16 GHz intel Core Duo..

I think I am going to just use the XDCAM transfer tool instead.

Thank you for your help!

Barry J. Anwender June 15th, 2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cahill (Post 893443)
Version 2.7.0 did the trick. Thank you for your help!

Steve, I was wondering about that 2.5.1 version over at Sony Canada's site. Now we know, and I'm not surprised. Glad to hear your finally got the new plug-in to work. Cheers!

Dave Morrison June 15th, 2008 03:31 PM

No problem, glad it helped.

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 04:49 PM

Sony needs to have auto updates notification, and one site for downloads,

US
Canada
England

One face towards the customer.

Thanks for your help.

Dave Morrison June 15th, 2008 05:06 PM

I agree, it's a mess. Given their world-wide presence, I can't figure out why they do it this way. This is my first Sony camcorder so I don't have any history with them. Have they always offered software and updates in such a piecemeal manner?

Steve Cahill June 15th, 2008 07:02 PM

Sony is a new player in the software distribution market. The different country groups are competing against themselves, and do not present themselves as one company "Sony". They obviously do NOT have a web and a software distribution strategy, like one place to download. Until they get this together they will remain to be multiple companies within the same company, within different geographies.

Let's hope they can work out their geography difference and present a single strategy and brand to their customers, this has to come from the top of the corporation from their CEO.

Dave Morrison June 15th, 2008 07:36 PM

One of the things that dawned on me ONLY after I had DL'd and installed one of the updaters from the UK site was what if this update was ONLY meant for the UK PAL system. I know it wouldn't do any harm, but there would be no guarantee that it would even have NTSC files in it. I guess the right hand DOESN'T know what the left hand is doing.

Barry J. Anwender June 15th, 2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cahill (Post 893564)
Let's hope they can work out their geography difference and present a single strategy and brand to their customers, this has to come from the top of the corporation from their CEO.

Let's also hope they can do this with an international warranty. Then the playing field will be leveled and all concerned can focus on using the products in the field as they are intended. I guess Sony is learning how to crawl before it can walk with the rest of the hardware/software industry in a 21st century global village.


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