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Vincent Oliver March 12th, 2010 04:11 AM
I am now using a pair of 24" Samsung monitors, these are very stable and probably don't need profiling every other day. I actually profile once a week when I am not printing. When printing I profile before every job, this is mainly limited edition Fine Art printing rather than video editing.

Paul Cascio March 15th, 2010 02:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Shipsides (Post 1008414)
Here are print outs of my HVX200/HPX170 settings. All the other settings are set to default. I noted that the detail adjustment is subjective because I just eyeballed the difference. The EX1 is notably sharper even at the lowest level. My Black Gamma levels are set very low in order to mimic the fall off of the HVXs Gamma curve. Do note that the Black setting has very minimal adjustment.

HVX Matches for EX1

PP1: Cine V
Matrix –
- Select: High Sat
- Level 0
- Phase +2
- R-G -11
- R-B -23
- G-R +38
- G-B 0
- B-R +17
- B-G -23
Detail –
- Level –30 (subjective)
- Frequency 15

Gamma –
- Level -1
- Select: Cine 1

Black – -2
Black Gamma - -99

PP2: Cine D
Matrix –
- Select: High Sat
- Level 0
- Phase +6
- R-G +22
- R-B -36
- G-R +19
- G-B 0
- B-R +14
- B-G -16
Detail –
- Level –30 (subjective)
- Frequency 15

Gamma –
- Level -1
- Select: Cine 1

Black – -2
Black Gamma - -96

PP3: HD NORM
Matrix –
- Select: Standard
- Level -5
- Phase +1
- R-G +8
- R-B -30
- G-R +15
- G-B -24
- B-R 0
- B-G +10
Detail –
- Level –30 (subjective)
- Frequency 15

Gamma –
- Level +11
- Select: STD4

Black – -1
Black Gamma - -52

PP4: FLUO
Matrix –
- Select: FL Light
- Level -8
- Phase -5
- R-G -64
- R-B -24
- G-R +64
- G-B -18
- B-R +24
- B-G -23
Detail –
- Level –30 (subjective)
- Frequency 15

Gamma –
- Level +11
- Select: STD4

Black – -1
Black Gamma - -52

I tried Andy's HD Norm profile with my HMC-150 and the scopes matched perfectly. I was surprised. The 2 cameras work well together. Great job Andy.

Zsolt Gordos March 18th, 2010 04:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Rawlings (Post 1477354)
Get Vortex Media EX1 DVD it gives ideal settings for most situations.
Or instead try the Pana HVX settings also posted in this thread - they look way better than the Vortex settings. Perhaps the Vortex settings are good if you want to fiddle with colors in the post, while my experience with the HVX PP-s is that most of the time no need to adjust color, the images look fantastic without touching them.

Edit: I just noticed that the HVX settings are quoted above my post. So you can easily find what I was talking about.

Ewien Kwant March 24th, 2010 10:55 AM
I am new on this network and mainly was interested in joining b/cause of the picture profile (PP) threads...

There is a lot of info/pages already - and I am a little overwhelmed by all of it - so, I am wondering what PP came out of Paul Cronin's thread already in 2008 (January 7th):

Quote:
My goal is to have a setting close to the rich colors I had on my Canon A1 with Steve's Vivid and still have rich blacks. More soon.
Right now, I am using a filter called "movie color" in post production to achieve a quite similar goal.

I am living and working in Mali, West-Africa though, where the sun is bright and surroundings are desert-y (a lot of brauns)...

Thanks for any input!

BTW, I am shooting with the Sony PMW-EX1

Andrew Stone March 25th, 2010 04:40 PM
I decided to load up a few of the Panny/HVX picture profile settings. I did a shoot with one a couple of nights ago with the Cine V picture profile. I could hardly contain myself. Seemed so weird having the lush saturated Panny look in the Sony viewfinder.

Is there anyone here that is well versed in these Panasonic profiles and could sum up their intended use or look?

Ewien Kwant March 31st, 2010 09:47 AM
Anybody anything on my question from March, 24th? A direction to an answer would be more than OK too...

I am looking for a movie color picture profile (as described in thread March, 24th)
or more like a "film look" ....but than for a Sony PMW-EX1...

Thanks for any help in this!

Giannis Pass March 31st, 2010 01:01 PM
Hi,
i am using the ex1r and i am a wedding videographer.
Mostly i am using the dvcam 50.
I am wondering if a PP will be the same for HD and DvCam.
Thanks

Jim Forrest April 4th, 2010 06:26 AM
Sony tips
 
Here is a site with a number of Picture Profile suggestions. I apologize if this has been posted before but I didn't see it, if it was.

SONY XDCAM EX

Jim Forrest April 4th, 2010 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewien Kwant (Post 1508030)
Anybody anything on my question from March, 24th? A direction to an answer would be more than OK too...

I am looking for a movie color picture profile (as described in thread March, 24th)
or more like a "film look" ....but than for a Sony PMW-EX1...

Thanks for any help in this!
Try number 2.

SONY XDCAM EX

Docea Marius April 4th, 2010 08:33 AM
try this

DOUG'S PRESET

MATRIX:

SETTING: ON
SELECT: HIGH SAT
LEVEL: 0
PHASE: 0
R-G: 0
R-B: 0
G-R: 0
G-B: 0
B-R: 0
B-G: 0

COLOR CORRECTION:

SETTING: OFF
AREA DETECTION
AREA INDICATION: OFF
TARGET PHASE: 130
TARGET WIDTH: 40
LEVEL: 0

WHITE:

OFFSET WHITE: OFF
OFFSET: 0
OFFSET: 0
OFFSET: 0
PRESET WHITE: 5600

DETAIL:

SETTING: ON
LEVEL: 0
FREQUENCY: 0
CRISPENING: 0
H/V RATIO: 0
WHITE LIMITER: 0
BLACK LIMITER: 0
V DTL CREATION: Y
KNEE APT LEVEL: 0

SKIN TONE DETAIL:

SETTING: OFF
LEVE: 0
AREA DETECTION
AREA INDICATION: OFF
SATURATION: 0
PHASE: 130
WIDTH: 40

KNEE:

NOTHING

GAMMA:

LEVEL: 0
SELECT: CINE4

BLACK: -3
BLACK GAMMA: -2
LOW KEY SAT: 0


or that

Bills new tc2

Matrix ...............on
Select................hisat
Level..................0
Phase.................-5
R-G...................75
R-B...................0
G-R...................-18
G-B...................-32
B-R...................-27
B-G...................13

Gamma Level.............. 0 (changed from -40)
Gamma Select.............CINE1 (any of the gamma curves will preserve the proper color calibration, but I prefer cine 1 for the most latitude/filmy look)
Black..........................-3 (the min setting for BLACK I now recommend is -3 or -4.)
Black Gamma..............0

Ewien Kwant April 7th, 2010 06:14 AM
Thanks Jim, I will try this option today...did not see this before today...

@ Docea, is this an answer to my question too? not sure :)

p.s.
Where can I change the option of receiving an e-mail when some body replying to my thread?
I searched but could not find it so far ...

Jim Forrest April 7th, 2010 09:22 AM
I can't find the option either. I don't think there is one....I wish there was one.

Ewien Kwant April 7th, 2010 11:03 AM
@ Jim

OK, so it is not me...thanks for the use full website ... it does look a bit more complicated than the presets Docea gave, for a PP starter like me, but I'll do my best :)

Bruce Mitchell April 7th, 2010 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewien Kwant (Post 1510975)
Where can I change the option of receiving an e-mail when some body replying to my thread?
Near the top, on the right, "Thread Tools", "Subscribe to this Thread".

Oliver Neubert April 9th, 2010 03:21 AM
and under Quick Links at the top you can manage your subscribed threads. If you want to change from email notification to something else, open forum and re-subscribe using a different option...


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