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Phil Bloom December 9th, 2007 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by John Hewat (Post 789463)
Hi Phil,

As always your footage is fantastic. Something that made me laugh though - the final two shots of the clip are of the woman saying something to the effect of "My hopes are that my children follow religion the way I've followed.." and then it dissolves into that sped up footage of the sheep.

Was this a symbolic comment or just co-incidence?

-- John.
Not at all! But I can see where you are coming from. If anyone could have interpreted it that way it should have been me given my thoughts...but no, it's more about the passage of time...through the years etc! worried me there though. I hope other people don't see it like that!

Phil Bloom December 9th, 2007 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan (Post 789566)
Phil, the Buddhist family story looks amazing, except two shots: one, with bicycle in the shot, another one with a yellow warning sign, (some blown highlights there), love the colors, was the lens wide open? It's probably the best stuff I've seen from 350. Makes me think of buying it instead of waiting for the Red One.
The protestant family has more problems with dynamic range, I could definetly notice more lost details in white, less dynamic range, less color, etc.
Great stories. Thanks again.
Could you post one image of Ex1 with letus in full res?
Thanks Oleg. It's actually more to do with grading. Both have very different grades.

I have attached a still from the Letus/ Ex1 combo that is ungraded. I am editing it tomorrow.

Oleg Kalyan December 9th, 2007 03:53 AM
Thanks again for prompt response,
So the difference just in grading, do you mean you consider 350 and Ex1 comparable in all kinds of lighting situations?

Phil Bloom December 9th, 2007 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan (Post 789579)
Thanks again for prompt response,
So the difference just in grading, do you mean you consider 350 and Ex1 comparable in all kinds of lighting situations?
The EX1 is much more sensitive than the F350. The F350 is of course a better camera, but the EX1 is an impressive little beast. I am very happy with the results from it. More so that any other "small" camera I have used. It is the only camera of that type that I would consider using as an A camera when I could easily use the F350 instead.

Oleg Kalyan December 9th, 2007 03:58 AM
Great! Look forward to see some more footage, possibly you could post few seconds in 2K?
regards, Oleg.

Phil Bloom December 9th, 2007 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan (Post 789581)
Great! Look forward to see some more footage, possibly you could post few seconds in 2K?
regards, Oleg.
2k of what?

Piotr Wozniacki December 9th, 2007 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil Bloom (Post 789592)
2k of what?
Now, this is a good one... A true artist vs. us -measurebators.

PS. Oleg, I meant no offence - I'm a technology-obsessed quirk myself:)

Oleg Kalyan December 9th, 2007 05:19 AM
I meant 1080 by 1920 of EX1 footage, possibly wide shot with detail, street, field, etc.

Phil Bloom December 9th, 2007 06:14 AM
I have posted stills on this thread.

I understand why but it's east to become obsessed with numbers and forget about why we use the cameras in the first place but don't forget numbers and stats aren't what it's all about!!

Ariel Sasaki December 9th, 2007 06:28 PM
http://vtokyo.ddo.jp/~pro/ex1a1.html

Steven Thomas December 9th, 2007 08:44 PM
Ariel,
I don't at all follow your rez tests.
The sample charts were shot at an angle.
Also, they were not set up correctly to the correct marks; therefore,
the tests do not mean anything. In fact the HV20 was shot a lot wider FOV.
????????????????

Ariel Sasaki December 9th, 2007 09:04 PM
it is not my site.

Steven Thomas December 9th, 2007 09:06 PM
Sorry, then I'm not sure why you posted it.
Take a look at the large rez charts.. LOL... They're shot on an angle all at
different field of views.
Very strange.

Mike Barber December 10th, 2007 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan (Post 789600)
I meant 1080 by 1920 of EX1 footage, possibly wide shot with detail, street, field, etc.
*ahem*

sorry to knit-pick, but. . .

2k != 1920x1080
2k = 2048x1080

What I am really curious about is the EX1s 24p. What is the pulldown? Are we talking something akin to what Adam Wilt refers to as "24p Standard" (a la Panasonic DVX200 24p) or "24p Advanced" (a la DVX2000 24pA)?

If I'm going to be going out to film and want the easiest path in conforming to true 24fps, is this camera a contender (excellent image quality aside)?

Chris Hurd December 10th, 2007 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Barber (Post 789974)
sorry to knit-pick, but...
2k != 1920x1080
2k = 2048x1080
Knit-picking is never a good idea on this site.

The difference between 1080p and 2K is so minimal that they may as well be synonymous terms, and sometimes for all practical purposes they are, as far as we're concerned here. Hope this helps,


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