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Ofer Levy November 13th, 2008 06:55 PM

Sony RM-1BP LANC Remote Controller for EX3?
 
I am looking for a simple and reliable remote controler - is this a good one for the EX3 ?

Thanks,

Ofer Levy Nature Photographer

Piotr Wozniacki November 14th, 2008 01:28 AM

No Ofer - the EX cameras don't use LANC at all; search for Manfrotto, Bebob or Varizoom zoom controllers with "EX" in the name.

Ofer Levy November 14th, 2008 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 963515)
No Ofer - the EX cameras don't use LANC at all; search for Manfrotto, Bebob or Varizoom zoom controllers with "EX" in the name.

Thanks for that Pioter!

Mark Twittey November 15th, 2008 01:44 PM

I have just got the Manfrotto 521EX, and it is very good.
Smooth starts and stops.
Also you can reverse which way the zoom control goes,
left in or out, the Bebob cannot do that.
I can recomend the Manfrotto.

Vincent Oliver November 19th, 2008 03:15 AM

EX3 & Lanc
 
Doe the EX3 have a Lanc input port? I can't find this in the specs. or the PDF manual.

Perrone Ford November 19th, 2008 07:37 AM

No it doesn't.

Andrew Stone November 19th, 2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent Oliver (Post 965770)
Doe the EX3 have a Lanc input port? I can't find this in the specs. or the PDF manual.

No the interface protocol is very different. If it was LANC we would most likely be using the Manfrotto 523PRO control arm which is way nicer than the slimmed down 521EX. Hopefully Manfrotto is working on an equivalent to the 523PRO for the EX series.

EDIT:

The 521EX does relatively controlled zooming. There is a little thumbwheel that allows you to dial up the zoom speed which is in some ways nicer than the 523PRO but it lacks the all important quick "auto focus" button.

Piotr Wozniacki November 19th, 2008 12:36 PM

Afaik, it's quite possible that Manfrotto "handle" version will be available for the EX cameras some day, but the Push Auto Focus will definitely not - as the EX zoom remote controller protocol doesn't provide this functionality.

Brian Rigler November 19th, 2008 12:59 PM

libec told me today that the cable extension will be on sell within 2 weeks for £56.00
plus tax

regards Brian

Tuomas Sebastien November 19th, 2008 01:56 PM

Is it possible to control focus with remote?

Joe Lawry November 23rd, 2008 10:17 PM

Well after reading this whole thread im still not sure which remote i want.

Its a toss up between the Bebob Zoe Ex and the VariZoom VZ Rock EX.

Now i currently have a Varizoom Rock for my HVX and love it.

Im currently learning more towards the Varizoom as im use to the pressure sensitive rocker and its also cheaper (exchange rate is currently awful)

Am i making a big mistake going with the Varizoom? is the speed control dial on the Bebob worth the extra money?

It sounded like the original Varizooms on the market had some issues but then were later fixed..

Tuomas Sebastien November 25th, 2008 03:16 PM

Anyone knows if it is possible, even theorically, to control focus like controlling the zoom with remote lens control?

Buba Kastorski November 26th, 2008 08:53 AM

not for EX1, EX3 only

Paul Cronin November 26th, 2008 09:14 AM

Tuomas I have been researching this since I need this options to go from EX1 to EX3. And yes you can control focus with optional Fujinon and Canon lens but you have to buy their controllers that attach to their lens. You cannot remotely control focus with the stock EX3 lens. But then again why not buy the EX1 if you are not going to use better glass on the EX3?

Paul Cronin November 26th, 2008 02:19 PM

Tuomas I found this for the stock lens to control focus by remote.
VariZoom Lens Controls - Zoom &amp Focus Controls, Camera Stabilizers & Supports, Batteries, Monitor Kits

Alex Raskin November 26th, 2008 02:31 PM

I don't quite understand this.

EX1 does electronically control focus in auto-focus mode.

So what could possibly prevent from doing so remotely as well?

Paul Cronin November 26th, 2008 02:37 PM

Just the fact that no one has built the control for the EX1. Sony must have their reasons.

Steve Minnick February 27th, 2009 02:36 PM

Remote focus and zoom
 
Anybody know if these focus controllers would be a good solution to using the EX 1 on a jib?

I think the zoom control would work but not sure about the cable version.

VariZoom Lens Controls - Zoom &amp Focus Controls, Camera Stabilizers & Supports, Batteries, Monitor Kits

The Zoe zoom control would work provided I can get a long enough cable to the camera.

16x9 | Distributor of Film & Digital Products

Also this wireless solution from varizoom....does this even work on the EX1?

VariZoom Lens Controls, monitors, Camera Stabilizers & Supports, Batteries, Monitor Kits Phone: 512-219-7722

thanks for the feedback in advance

Steve

Ed Kukla April 13th, 2009 07:21 AM

Variable speed control
 
I've read several comments about some of the remote zoom controllers having a variable speed control.

Is this redundant to the varible speed control on the camera? do you get anything extra out of the speed control on the external zoom controller?

Thanks

Thomas McKay April 13th, 2009 08:33 AM

EX Zoom
 
Yes it is redundant. The extra is just the benefits of remote control and maybe a little better control over speed because of ergonomics. The slowest speed will still be the same and the fastest speeds will vary little if at all.

Jason Davenport April 14th, 2009 10:51 PM

I have been using a Jimmy jib with an EX-3 for 7 months now. Using a Fuji 2/3" HD wide angle lens with ACM-21 adapter.
Have just switched to the new Fuji XS8x4 EX-3 lens and it work beautifully. All I did, was put on the Cavision focus gear ring from other EX-3, over the focus ring on wide lens which is the same diameter as stock lens! Then used the Film servo motor (Extra in Jimmy Jib kit for Film lens) matched up gear set, mounted motor to VF gadgets rail system. (which also makes the EX-3 lens height the same as full size camera, so no riser needed with Prompter). Used my Libec zoom cable adapter connected to Fuji cable from Jib controller and it all worked like a champ.
Very pleased with this new lens, and the price is just right. You'll be a bit taken back opening box though, this thing is a fat beast. Better get a wrist brace for hand held.
Still a very happy customer. Highly recommended.

Phil George May 20th, 2009 04:27 PM

Ok so the Manfrotto, the bebob and the libec all have one major screw up. All these so called "remote lens controllers" do not control the iris and focus. What gives???

Does anyone know if a proper lens controller exists yet to properly control zoom, iris, focus and remote start/stop for the EX1?

The zoom on the tele commander sucks.!

Also why does the telecommander go to sleep every time the camera is switched off? The problem I have is the camera is burried in a mount and in a remote place (like up a tree for example) and that's why I need remote controls! It's dammed inconvenient having to climb up the tree every time after switch on just to activate the remote control again!

Is anyone from the Sony design department paying attention?

Thomas McKay May 20th, 2009 05:20 PM

VariZoom has zoom and focus
 
Phil,

The VariZoom does have a zoom and focus controls. Manual and electronic focus.

It is not easy making controls for every camera and sometimes it is just not worth it.

http://www.varizoom.com/img/products/fcu_web_1.jpg

http://www.varizoom.com/img/products/efcu_med_1.jpg



Best regards,

Tom

Jason Bodnar May 21st, 2009 06:20 PM

Phil, I am sure you have read this entire thread so you understand the that all the controllers mentioned only control zoom and record/stop/last clip playback. If you want control over focus and Iris it is going to cost you a lot more and you will have to get a remote focus system, Varizoom just came out with one and another company Hocus is also working on one. These are the cheaper ones, which are in the price range of folks like myself some of the remote focus devices out there run big $$$$$. I have high hopes for the varizoom which you can see here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/remote-le...s-control.html

I would use this in addition to my varizoom Pro-EX Zoom Controller. sort of like the pic in the link.

Yes I agree Sony made a big mistake on the pin layout and what parameters it controls...

Jonathan Bland June 17th, 2009 12:07 PM

EX1 Zoom Control?
 
Can some please site the hands down best zoom controller for the money?

Big thanks :)

Brian Barkley June 17th, 2009 04:54 PM

Well I am very happy with my zoe-ex by bebob.

zoe ex bebob | B&H Photo Video

Warren Kawamoto June 17th, 2009 05:43 PM

I've tried the Bebob, and I have a Libec. But for hands down best performance, I have the Varizoom. Very solid construction, and very light for it's size. I have it permanently attached to my Sachtler handle.
VariZoom | VZ-PG-EX Pistol-Grip Zoom Controller | VZ-PG-EX | B&H

Charles Newcomb June 17th, 2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kawamoto (Post 1159919)
I've tried the Bebob, and I have a Libec. But for hands down best performance, I have the Varizoom. Very solid construction, and very light for it's size. I have it permanently attached to my Sachtler handle.
VariZoom | VZ-PG-EX Pistol-Grip Zoom Controller | VZ-PG-EX | B&H

Ditto. Varizoom rocks (pun intended)

Tuy Le June 18th, 2009 12:54 AM

The Varizoom VZ-ROCK-EX (newer version).
I also tried Libec at NAB and decided to get Varizoom.

Paul Dhadialla June 19th, 2009 09:37 AM

I used the BEBOB for about 12 months. For some reason the zoom started to crawl automatically lately. I'm assuming the wire broke or something.

It did get the latest upgraded firmware from Sony - not sure if that is also a cause

I ordered the Manfrotto a few weeks back - that works fine

Paul

Kenny Cowburn June 19th, 2009 09:41 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Bebop ZOE EX is the one for me
super compact, light and very smooth to use.
only thing I´m not sold on, is the mounting..... it tends to loosen after a while, almost lost the thing once last weekend while moving between positions.
Quick fix: a sliver of duc tape around the screw where the bottom bracket latches on and it can´t go anywhere.
another little bit of advice, to keep the pins safe:
a bit of wine cork with a hole drilled into the end, where the plug can be inserted for transport purposes

Jonathan Bland July 8th, 2009 01:15 AM

Big thanks folks :)

John Peterson July 8th, 2009 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuy Le (Post 1160052)
The Varizoom VZ-ROCK-EX (newer version).
I also tried Libec at NAB and decided to get Varizoom.

Tuy,

That model has a pressure sensitive zoom control only - no speed wheel. Can you describe your experience with that model in a little more detail?

Thanks,

John

Vincent Oliver July 8th, 2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kawamoto (Post 1159919)
I've tried the Bebob, and I have a Libec. But for hands down best performance, I have the Varizoom. Very solid construction, and very light for it's size. I have it permanently attached to my Sachtler handle.
VariZoom | VZ-PG-EX Pistol-Grip Zoom Controller | VZ-PG-EX | B&H


It looks like something that was knocked up in a garage. The Sony EX1 - EX3 is a superb design, why can't third party manufactures keep to the same look and feel.


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