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Mike Marriage October 22nd, 2012 08:19 AM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen (Post 1759920)

So it's going to be a Cinealta camera.

My presumptions:

- 4K capable, possibly externally. I doubt they would be promoting it as "the future" without 4K.
- S35 sized sensor.
- PL mount but hopefully interchangeable like the F3.
- High frame rates, given the FS700, I'm guessing at least 240fps at 1080p.

I'm wondering:
- XDCAM HD onboard for broadcast master recording or cinema proxies.
- Will there be a RAW option given the FS700 will eventually have this.
- Formfactor - PLEASE no more "palmcorder" bricks!
- Presuming it sits below the F65, where will the compromises be to keep it from stealing high end sales.

Price:
- Possibly more of a C500/Red competitor, coming in above the F3 in the product line.

Paul Ream October 22nd, 2012 08:50 AM

Re: The New F
 
Sony have already released the following info:

4K
50 Mb/s 4:2:2
High Frame Rates

...and the picture looks like it's got a similar PL adaptor to the F3,
...so most of your presumptions look spot on!

David Dwyer October 22nd, 2012 10:59 AM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ream (Post 1759925)
Sony have already released the following info:

4K
50 Mb/s 4:2:2
High Frame Rates

...and the picture looks like it's got a similar PL adaptor to the F3,
...so most of your presumptions look spot on!


Sounds expensive..

Alister Chapman October 22nd, 2012 12:11 PM

Re: The New F
 
[QUOTE=Mike Marriage;1759923]So it's going to be a Cinealta camera.

I think you might be surprised!

Glen Vandermolen October 22nd, 2012 12:51 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer (Post 1759948)
Sounds expensive..

Sure does.

Based upon that new pic, it looks like a shoulder mount design, similar to the PMW-500. Not exact, but close. You can also see the vent ports.

Ned Soltz October 22nd, 2012 02:29 PM

Re: The New F
 
+1 on the surprise

I don't know how much more Sony is going to let slip over the next week. But as I've been saying, we're looking at a big step forward.

Ned

John Cummings October 22nd, 2012 02:36 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen (Post 1759964)
Based upon that new pic, it looks like a shoulder mount design, similar to the PMW-500. Not exact, but close. You can also see the vent ports.

God I hope it's a shoulder mount and not a bloated, tall DSLR body like the C500...
Somebody give me a sign!

Mike Marriage October 22nd, 2012 02:38 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 1759956)

I think you might be surprised!

...more than one camera maybe. Looking forward to being surprised.

Let's hope we are reaching a point where cameras will be "good enough" and we can stop buying new ones every 2-3 years. Much like has happened in audio.

Craig Kovatch October 22nd, 2012 03:18 PM

Re: The New F
 
Does anybody else think the camera in the picture has a metal body? Definitely a step up from the F3 if that's the case. And probably $20k+.

Dennis Hingsberg October 22nd, 2012 03:31 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marriage (Post 1759990)
...more than one camera maybe. Looking forward to being surprised.

Let's hope we are reaching a point where cameras will be "good enough" and we can stop buying new ones every 2-3 years. Much like has happened in audio.

I believe it has already happened in 2006.

Judging from that picture it looks like it is a new camera with non-removable lens.

It's the Scarlet story all over again.

Glen Vandermolen October 22nd, 2012 04:17 PM

Re: The New F
 
Those who have seen it say it is definitely NOT a fixed lens camera.

Alister Chapman October 22nd, 2012 04:23 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen (Post 1760015)
Those who have seen it say it is definitely NOT a fixed lens camera.

That statement makes me chuckle.

Steve Cocklin October 22nd, 2012 04:23 PM

Re: The New F
 
https://twitter.com/CineAltaNews/sta...03974266949632

Just now on twitter

Nate Weaver October 22nd, 2012 04:34 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Hingsberg (Post 1760002)
Judging from that picture it looks like it is a new camera with non-removable lens.

You just like making stuff up, don't you? :-)

There's a PL mount ear clearly visible in the pic.

Richard Crook October 22nd, 2012 09:36 PM

Re: The New F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ned Soltz (Post 1759988)
+1 on the surprise

I don't know how much more Sony is going to let slip over the next week. But as I've been saying, we're looking at a big step forward.

Ned

Ned, can you speak about any upcoming F3 firmware updates? Is there one coming? Just before the NewF twitter post, Peter mentioned a firmware update.


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