New Music Video Shot on FX1e at DVinfo.net

Nicholas Bartleet · February 6th, 2006, 07:49 AM

Hi Guys, Just completed another video, which again, i shot on my FX1e. This time, i used a Kona LH card, and captured DVCPRO-HD directly from the component outputs on the camera. One reason for this is that we did have to do several Chromakey shots using a greenscreen, and found the HDV format to be unsuitable.

The quality difference between the DVCPRO HD footage, and the native HDV capture's we did prior to the shoot was remarkable, especially, the lack of compression artifacts and blocking. Most noticable for me was the abillity to really push the colors around a great deal in post... this time using shake, to grade the finished video. The DVCPRO-HD format basically had far greater color information, and made this process simpler and more enjoyable, and i think the results are pretty good.

I will get some full resolution stills up as soon as possible for you guys to see.

On another note, please don't email me about making you a 35mm adapter, i get many emails every day requesting this, and this is simply not something I am able to do at the moment, sorry.

Please feel free to ask any questions or leave feedback, I hope you enjoy it.

Thanks, Nick

www.pixelloft.com/akala.htm

Anhar Miah · February 6th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Hey the use of capturing off the components really show, you pulled off some really good key there, I'm impressed, the colours do look alot "cleaner" thats not a surprise, when you work at 4:2:2 colours can really be pushed without fear of snaping it.

Good work Nicholas !

Anhar Hussain Miah

Douglas Call · February 6th, 2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholas Bartleet

i used a Kona LH card, and captured DVCPRO-HD directly from the component outputs on the camera.

Does this mean you took SD signals from the FX1 into Component in on the Kona Card? There aren't any HD Component out signals on the FX1 are there? If you did take HD component from the Sony you would have had to convert into DVCPRO HD on the Kona side not "captured DVCPRO-HD directly from the component outputs on the camera" which is what you said. Sony doesn't output DVCPRO HD.

Yasser Kassana · February 8th, 2006, 06:52 AM

That was an awesome video! Great track too. I'd buy it. Very professional, great production values, great lighting, seriously it looks like it cost £30,000. Will chat to you soon Nicholas.

Nicholas Bartleet · February 8th, 2006, 07:12 AM

Thanks Yasser and Anhar, I really pleased you liked it.

Hi Douglas, thanks for your post, I think you sound somewhat confused, so ill try and explain it a bit better. The FX1 had 1080i component analog outputs. I had assumed that everyone new (and i am sure that most people do know) that you can't possibly transmit a digital DVCPRO-HD encoded signal via and analog connection. The signal is, like all analog connections not encoded, which is not to say that it wasn't encoded prior to conversion to analog.
I did in fact capture DVCPRO-HD (Whereby the G5 and Kona card was my capture and encoding device), directly from the uncompressed component outputs on the Fx1. The obvious reason for doing so was to use the far higher quality DVCPRO-HD codec instead of the typical HDV MPG one.

I hope this clears things up for you, and thanks for your questions and comments,

Regards, Nick

Yasser Kassana · February 8th, 2006, 07:15 AM

JUst wondering when your tapping directly into the HD source, and then encode to dvcpro-hd, what sort of chroma resolution are you getting? and how much space per minute is dvcpro-hd taking up on your HDD?

Douglas Call · February 8th, 2006, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholas Bartleet

I did in fact capture DVCPRO-HD (Whereby the G5 and Kona card was my capture and encoding device), directly from the uncompressed component outputs on the Fx1. The obvious reason for doing so was to use the far higher quality DVCPRO-HD codec instead of the typical HDV MPG one.

Have you found a capture card that lets you input 1080i component analog and outputs 8-bit HD SDI to the timeline? What I wanted to do from a workflow perspective was edit uncompressed 8-bit HD SDI then burn straight to WMVHD from the timeline PP2. Thereby maintaining as much of the quality as possible.

Rick Jones · February 8th, 2006, 11:11 AM

Nick,

I looked at the video. Very cool. Also looked at some of your other videos. Very much like the look you manage to get.

I saw some of the stills and see you're using a a DIY 35mm adapter. Which monitor are you using? (the one on top of the camera.) Does it allow critical focus and color or do you have another monitor for that?

Rick

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 8th, 2006, 04:41 PM

Excellent, excellent colors and content, Nick. The Sony HDV tour significantly showed off from your 3Flex piece, coming from a Qualia on the master you sent. This one is terrific work as well.
Love that uncompressed output!
Which 35mm adapter are you using?

Carlos Yasik · February 8th, 2006, 09:31 PM

Wow, i just can tell.. wooooooow... tha lighting, the main idea, the shots are great... I wish some day I can do anything alike. Congratulations!

I would love to see pictures fo your backstage. How you get the upright position dancers? what is the trick? After effects? Greenscreen? an inverted room?

Great JOB!

Philip Thangsombat · February 8th, 2006, 11:25 PM

Simply amazing! great job! the artist is pretty good too.

Nick Weeks · February 8th, 2006, 11:53 PM

Not my style of music, but I really enjoyed this video. Great work

Nicholas Bartleet · February 9th, 2006, 09:48 AM

hey guys, thanks for all of your posts, i'm really pleased that the feedback is so good... you never can be sure.

Yasser, i would imagine the chroma resolution is 4:2:2, and the datarate of 1080i 50i DVCPRO-HD is 17.26Mbytes/sec i believe.

Douglas Call, the capture card is the Kona LH for the Mac or PC. This has analog inputs and will capture on a mac with a host of different codecs (including 10bit uncompresed HD), and on a PC, with a raid, it will capture uncompressed HD if you have the money. The best option if you can afford it is to capture to the sheer video codec, which will half the bandwidth and datarate requirements, however the codec is totally lossless. Uncompressed capture at half the cost!

Hi Rick, I will be uploading some behind the scenes stills over the next couple of weeks. I do all the focus pulling myseld, and i use either the lcd mounted on the hotshoe, or the on camera lcd. Get a bit of eye strain, but what the hell. A remote controlled Follow focus is on my christmas prezzie list, but its a long time till christmas :) I use an 800 line sony PVM14L3 Broadcast Finishing Monitor on shoots, for checking exposure, lighting, and focus on locked off shots etc.

Douglas Spotted Eagle, thankyou for using the 3lflex vid on the tour, i'm pleased it has been successful. i am using my own design of 35mm adapter, which i believe is slightly different to alot of the designs around here. (i think there is an old post on here about how it is built)

Thanks Carlos, well there were a couple of tricks, one of which was a giant greenscreen, and the other was an upside down set, which myself, my AD, my girlfriend, and a set builder constructed painstaikingly over christmas, in the freezing cold. (wasn't fun)

Thanks to all you guys, Im glad you like it, and i hope this has addressed all your questions.

Cheers, Nick

Carlos Yasik · February 10th, 2006, 02:46 PM

Im editing a video in after effects that I shot my self for a female group, I used mainly green screen, I would like u to tell me what u think of it (Production, not the music nor the girls, lol)

Am I getting closer for professional resultS???

www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet_intro.mov

Thanks in advance

PS. Im becoming a fan of your work!

Mike McKay · February 11th, 2006, 01:54 AM

Nicholas
Really really good. Were the singers/band lip synching/playing to their recorded master? I have no clue about music video's obviously......but how long/how many takes did it involve to get this done.

February 6th, 2006, 07:49 AM	#1
Nicholas Bartleet Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: upton uk Posts: 104	New Music Video Shot on FX1e Hi Guys, Just completed another video, which again, i shot on my FX1e. This time, i used a Kona LH card, and captured DVCPRO-HD directly from the component outputs on the camera. One reason for this is that we did have to do several Chromakey shots using a greenscreen, and found the HDV format to be unsuitable. The quality difference between the DVCPRO HD footage, and the native HDV capture's we did prior to the shoot was remarkable, especially, the lack of compression artifacts and blocking. Most noticable for me was the abillity to really push the colors around a great deal in post... this time using shake, to grade the finished video. The DVCPRO-HD format basically had far greater color information, and made this process simpler and more enjoyable, and i think the results are pretty good. I will get some full resolution stills up as soon as possible for you guys to see. On another note, please don't email me about making you a 35mm adapter, i get many emails every day requesting this, and this is simply not something I am able to do at the moment, sorry. Please feel free to ask any questions or leave feedback, I hope you enjoy it. Thanks, Nick www.pixelloft.com/akala.htm

February 6th, 2006, 09:43 AM	#2
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	Hey the use of capturing off the components really show, you pulled off some really good key there, I'm impressed, the colours do look alot "cleaner" thats not a surprise, when you work at 4:2:2 colours can really be pushed without fear of snaping it. Good work Nicholas ! Anhar Hussain Miah __________________ The IT Ninja Learn, Teach, Grow..

February 8th, 2006, 04:41 PM	#9
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Excellent, excellent colors and content, Nick. The Sony HDV tour significantly showed off from your 3Flex piece, coming from a Qualia on the master you sent. This one is terrific work as well. Love that uncompressed output! Which 35mm adapter are you using? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 8th, 2006, 09:31 PM	#10
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	Excellent Wow, i just can tell.. wooooooow... tha lighting, the main idea, the shots are great... I wish some day I can do anything alike. Congratulations! I would love to see pictures fo your backstage. How you get the upright position dancers? what is the trick? After effects? Greenscreen? an inverted room? Great JOB! __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 10th, 2006, 02:46 PM	#14
Carlos Yasik New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México. Posts: 19	I would like u to see what i've tried to do... Im editing a video in after effects that I shot my self for a female group, I used mainly green screen, I would like u to tell me what u think of it (Production, not the music nor the girls, lol) Am I getting closer for professional resultS??? www.estamosenvideo.com/movies/sweet_intro.mov Thanks in advance PS. Im becoming a fan of your work! __________________ J. Carlos Orozco "Yasik" Director http://estamosenvideo.com http://estamosenvideo.com/yasik

February 8th, 2006, 06:52 AM	#4
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	That was an awesome video! Great track too. I'd buy it. Very professional, great production values, great lighting, seriously it looks like it cost £30,000. Will chat to you soon Nicholas.

February 8th, 2006, 07:12 AM	#5
Nicholas Bartleet Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: upton uk Posts: 104	Thanks Yasser and Anhar, I really pleased you liked it. Hi Douglas, thanks for your post, I think you sound somewhat confused, so ill try and explain it a bit better. The FX1 had 1080i component analog outputs. I had assumed that everyone new (and i am sure that most people do know) that you can't possibly transmit a digital DVCPRO-HD encoded signal via and analog connection. The signal is, like all analog connections not encoded, which is not to say that it wasn't encoded prior to conversion to analog. I did in fact capture DVCPRO-HD (Whereby the G5 and Kona card was my capture and encoding device), directly from the uncompressed component outputs on the Fx1. The obvious reason for doing so was to use the far higher quality DVCPRO-HD codec instead of the typical HDV MPG one. I hope this clears things up for you, and thanks for your questions and comments, Regards, Nick

February 8th, 2006, 07:15 AM	#6
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	JUst wondering when your tapping directly into the HD source, and then encode to dvcpro-hd, what sort of chroma resolution are you getting? and how much space per minute is dvcpro-hd taking up on your HDD?

February 8th, 2006, 11:11 AM	#8
Rick Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 126	Nick, I looked at the video. Very cool. Also looked at some of your other videos. Very much like the look you manage to get. I saw some of the stills and see you're using a a DIY 35mm adapter. Which monitor are you using? (the one on top of the camera.) Does it allow critical focus and color or do you have another monitor for that? Rick

February 8th, 2006, 11:25 PM	#11
Philip Thangsombat New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7	Simply amazing! great job! the artist is pretty good too.

February 8th, 2006, 11:53 PM	#12
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	Not my style of music, but I really enjoyed this video. Great work

February 9th, 2006, 09:48 AM	#13
Nicholas Bartleet Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: upton uk Posts: 104	hey guys, thanks for all of your posts, i'm really pleased that the feedback is so good... you never can be sure. Yasser, i would imagine the chroma resolution is 4:2:2, and the datarate of 1080i 50i DVCPRO-HD is 17.26Mbytes/sec i believe. Douglas Call, the capture card is the Kona LH for the Mac or PC. This has analog inputs and will capture on a mac with a host of different codecs (including 10bit uncompresed HD), and on a PC, with a raid, it will capture uncompressed HD if you have the money. The best option if you can afford it is to capture to the sheer video codec, which will half the bandwidth and datarate requirements, however the codec is totally lossless. Uncompressed capture at half the cost! Hi Rick, I will be uploading some behind the scenes stills over the next couple of weeks. I do all the focus pulling myseld, and i use either the lcd mounted on the hotshoe, or the on camera lcd. Get a bit of eye strain, but what the hell. A remote controlled Follow focus is on my christmas prezzie list, but its a long time till christmas :) I use an 800 line sony PVM14L3 Broadcast Finishing Monitor on shoots, for checking exposure, lighting, and focus on locked off shots etc. Douglas Spotted Eagle, thankyou for using the 3lflex vid on the tour, i'm pleased it has been successful. i am using my own design of 35mm adapter, which i believe is slightly different to alot of the designs around here. (i think there is an old post on here about how it is built) Thanks Carlos, well there were a couple of tricks, one of which was a giant greenscreen, and the other was an upside down set, which myself, my AD, my girlfriend, and a set builder constructed painstaikingly over christmas, in the freezing cold. (wasn't fun) Thanks to all you guys, Im glad you like it, and i hope this has addressed all your questions. Cheers, Nick

February 11th, 2006, 01:54 AM	#15
Mike McKay Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 125	Nicholas Really really good. Were the singers/band lip synching/playing to their recorded master? I have no clue about music video's obviously......but how long/how many takes did it involve to get this done.