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Paulo Teixeira September 7th, 2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Zhang
We could expect an AVCHD cam coming soon with a 3CMOS and 1920x1080... and possibly true progressive and 1080p60

(sorry if this is a wishlist.)

You are starting to sound like me except that you forgot to say that it will have a blu-ray drive.

Jack Zhang September 8th, 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath McKnight
AVC, to Sony, is consumer-only.

HDV is tape-based only (with some exceptions, like FireStore and Sony's new digital capture device).

heath

OK, I've hearby corrected myself... what about AVCPRO HD? (applies to Pany as well.)

Kevin Shaw September 8th, 2006 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Gan
Let's see some innovation. I want a low-cost tapeless HD format. 4GB SD cards are cheap these days. Affordable 8, 16, 32GB cards can't be far away. Panasonic scored big on the HVX, and I think they'll do it again with AVC-Intra.

So far it's not clear whether Panasonic will have the sense to use standard, affordable memory cards with AVCHD. If they do that's great; if not we'll continue to be stuck with various less than ideal choices. Sony needs to get a Blu-ray version of AVCHD to market asap.

Barry Green September 8th, 2006 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw
So far it's not clear whether Panasonic will have the sense to use standard, affordable memory cards with AVCHD.

They've announced they're going to use regular SD cards.

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Sony needs to get a Blu-ray version of AVCHD to market asap.
Both companies stated that as their goal (a mini-blu-ray recording medium).

Kevin Shaw September 8th, 2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry Green
They've announced they're going to use regular SD cards.

Really? That's excellent news. Is that documented anywhere yet I can reference on the internet?

Heath McKnight September 9th, 2006 10:10 AM

Sony apparently has this device:

http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...gcfkmcfjfdhk.0

Looks like we'll be able to record to disk (longer record times, they say, like the Fire Store) AND record a tape back up, all at the same time. NICE!

heath

Barry Green September 9th, 2006 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw
Really? That's excellent news. Is that documented anywhere yet I can reference on the internet?

They announced it the very same day the original AVC-HD press release was announced. I googled it and didn't find the original press release but this popped up:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...Camcorders.htm

Panasonic and Sony announced a joint press release about AVC-HD, and the same day Panasonic made a separate press release that said "in addition to mini-DVD, we'll also be producing Secure Digital (SD card) AVC-HD camcorders."

Paulo Teixeira September 9th, 2006 08:37 PM

Kevin Shaw,
Here is a picture of Panasonic’s consumer AVCHD camcorder that clearly states SD on the side.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...05/ifa6_09.jpg
Keep in mind that it’s not necessarily the final design.

Heath McKnight September 9th, 2006 10:11 PM

Interesting. Definitely a cool design, but very consumerish, user-friendly design.

hwm

Thomas Smet September 9th, 2006 10:24 PM

Hey that kind of looks like that very first DV camera panasonic ever made and I think was the very first dv camera ever. That thing was a piece of junk and people laughed at the design. What the heck were they thinking by digging up that old fossil?

Paulo Teixeira September 10th, 2006 12:18 AM

Here is a link to a video of that camcorder that I posted on this forum about 2 ½ months ago.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70368098315550
The Panasonic consumer HD camcorder is mentioned at 3 minute 10 seconds.

Hopefully Panasonic will reveal its final design soon.

Kevin Shaw September 10th, 2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira
Here is a link to a video of that camcorder that I posted on this forum about 2 ½ months ago.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70368098315550
The Panasonic consumer HD camcorder is mentioned at 3 minute 10 seconds.

Hey Paul, thanks for the video - I like the smile on the salesman's face when he pulls out the mockup camera. I hope Panasonic doesn't limit themselves to consumer-oriented cameras for AVCHD: what I'd really like to see is a simplified version of the HVX200 with the same basic physical design using standard flash memory cards. I guess we'll find out next year whether or not they do that.

Allen Lu September 12th, 2006 11:57 PM

8 lux for low light
 
Guys,

For FX-1 owners, this spec alone keeps the value for FX-1's out there.

Theres a lot of complaining about the low light ability of the HC3, so why so giddly about the new FX7 with 8 lux for low light?

The FX7 seems to follow the same path as the HC1 vs HC3. People like the HC1 better.

Stu Holmes September 13th, 2006 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Lu
so why so giddly about the new FX7 with 8 lux for low light?

8 lux is the Japanese rating system for lux. It's equivalent to approx. 4lux of "Western" lux rating.

Carlos E. Martinez September 15th, 2006 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw
But given that the XH-A1 has XLR inputs and a 20X zoom lens for under $4K, it will probably be very popular for event videographers.


If the reason to go for the A1 is XLR inputs only, with that likely difference in price ($3.2K vs $4K) you can add a Sound Devices Mix Pre and end up with a much better audio control than even the Z1.

Controlling and adjusting in-camera audio is really a pain. With the Mix Pre you will have better preamps, better limiters and better LED metering.


Carlos

R.P. Cuenco September 18th, 2006 07:24 PM

Now, if the FX7 has HDMI out, will it be possible to output HD through the HDMI, and DV out the firewire? So that I would possibly be able to capture both streams for realtime editing with dv, then use the xml function in fcp a la lumierehd style? it would be sweet for encoding-less capture

Heath McKnight September 18th, 2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by R.P. Cuenco
Now, if the FX7 has HDMI out, will it be possible to output HD through the HDMI, and DV out the firewire? So that I would possibly be able to capture both streams for realtime editing with dv, then use the xml function in fcp a la lumierehd style? it would be sweet for encoding-less capture

The V1e has it and I wonder if us Mac and PC folks can capture without hitting the HDV codec using this:

http://www.decklink.com/products/intensity/

heath

ps-We talk about it here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=75102


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