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Thanks Chris,
Here's a banner that I made for mine... |
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BTW, I've never had a work from home job. Don't think I'd be good at it, what with the beer callin' me. Bob |
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Experts....gotta love 'em. :) |
Lorinda, I thought you nailed the theme. In fact, you showed multiple versions of anticipation in this one.
I also thought that the image quality was stellar. Working with animals can be an extreme challenge, I'm surprised you pulled it off so well. I'm sure I would have bailed about half way through. In comparison, my version of anticipation is very subtle, and not very obvious at first glance. You did a great job! Cheers, Mike |
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Watch it again and you will see that there is no problem with this scene. He opens the bottle, leans forward to toss the cap, cut to his wife, cut back to him, and he's standing exactly where he should be. He was never "clearly heading out the door." It looks like you weren't paying attention. ;) Cheers, Mike PS - As for the blue look of my film, that was intentional. Maybe a little too much so, but I like it. |
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My son got home for spring break tonight so he watched your movie. Guess I was listening more closely this time and finally heard the last line! (lol) It made lots more sense to me. He still had to explain the sequencing (or would you call it juxtaposition?) so I could have the “ohhh, I get it” moment. Takes some of us a while! While it’s hard for me to say I liked it—you already know I’m not a suspense/horror fan—I always think your work is really well done. It's my opinion that you do a good job of working the color to match the mood. I remember your DVC entry where you contrasted the cold darkness with the gorgeous coloring in the little girl’s bedroom. Made it all the more creepy. This one definitely had “cold” written all over it…in more ways than one. What an awful thing for even a hired gun to anticipate. Thanks again for putting this challenge together. Nice job!! |
It makes sense, sure, but I daresay that it could easily be seen the other way (as...obviously...it did to me). You never showed where the garbage can was, and all the viewer sees is that little sliver of wall on the far right of the screen as he moves in that direction. You also clipped the motion, so I see him moving to his left...a hallway...and his line was fairly final, "I'm just going to have a beer and watch the game" okay, bye.
That's the feeling I got anyway... And his positioning. He throws the cap away then moves all the back to his first position by the fridge? Why not stand at the garbage can? Anyway, enough of me being nitpicky. I don't think it was so much I wasn't paying attention, as I'm paying perhaps too much attention. I'll give that. |
I'm using Mike's first summary as a guide cuz I'm the king of LAZY when it comes to writing things out...
I think I'm going to mostly defend the authors here against some of the criticisms. I have no axe to grind...I have no submission to defend myself... Quote:
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I took the slightly synthetic sound of the phone voice as a probable attempt to hide identity of the voice. you do have a sense of the dramatic. Quote:
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Again in response to a criticism of it taking too long to get somewhere...I think it very effectively built suspense, each "days" scene portrayed a different degree of frustration and the "bathroom" scene...Well, with almost universal recognition of that facility as the "library" or "reading room", I think it was a great "sight gag". But the scene where Jay got up from the computer at the end took me totally by surprise and cause me to really crack up. While some may be shocked at the implied degree of "undress" it needs to be recognized that is is common to use the "blocky pixellated" look in cases where some cover existed anyway. "Tighty whities" pulled up high or "skimpy" swim briefs would give the same bare on the sides look. Congratulations to everyone! I would be hard put to pick one as the best, I found things to appreciate and enjoy about all of them. I was entertained. Bruce P.S. One thing I think I've learned from the few of these I've done is that the 3 minute time limit seems to work. It seems to allow adequate expression of a concept without going into too much detail. 4 minutes may be an "awkward" degree of extension in that it may tend to lead one into not being as "concise" as the shorter time and we may "stretch" things a bit without having the leeway to develop more complex visual ideas. 5-7 minutes may be more where some of us would like to go, but download times and server bandwidth likely would prohibit going there with the number of folks these challenges can draw. |
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And I'll pass your complement to my wife. She didn't even know what the movie was about, I just told her to walk in, stop there and say "WHAT". Three takes and it was done. Bob |
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You made some pretty bold statements about that scene, and you do get to see the garbage can quite clearly about a minute later. He also just leans towards it, hardly... "he's clearly heading out the door", as you put it. You also described it as "all the way back to his first position by the fridge." He twists off the cap and "barely" leans forward to toss it in the garbage can, looking down as he does so. (Cut to the wife) Cut Back: He is now standing exactly where he was as he tossed the bottle cap out, without the bottle cap in his hand I might add. We also get to see the garbage can quite clearly soon after when his wife tosses the empty bottle in. I got this on my first viewing. Criticism is fine as long as it is justified. Daniel, I've seen that you can be quite hard on a lot of work in this forum. So much so that you have come back to apologize. You even berated someone on their spelling and grammar, only to misspell grammar twice in the same sentence, along with the word definitely. Someone else called you on that. I welcome your criticisms, you hardly had a knock against mine. I'm just defending what I thought was an overly harsh complaint of a scene that you clearly missed the ball on. Try not to be so harsh to the point that you even attempt to find things that are not even there. This was just for fun after all. Cheers, Mike |
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It looks like we just need Mike and Dennis to chime in with their thoughts. We'll put it to a vote soon after that.... Thanks again for participating! Mike |
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No offense taken. Just made this comment from the stand point that we as film makers need to consider what the ultimate audience may be. And, you may have done so, thinking that the film would have a limited film maker only viewing. It was I who added the element of the "innocent by stander" :) She was similarly put off by the final scene in "The Mark". I do believe that scene was intended similarly to evoke shock, and it did in her. |
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Shock, and closure... it was necessary I think. I really wanted to stress what he was anticipating after the phone call, without giving it away. Maybe we should add ratings or something though? Scenes of violence, language, partial nudity, salivating dogs, etc... ;) Mike |
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