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Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 11:31 AM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Yeah I haven't got a hook line yet. I remember seeing the trailer for Nude Nuns with Big Guns a while back, now that you mention it.

John Nantz February 25th, 2020 12:21 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
If the problem isn't enough power for the lights with one car, ask the crew if they have cars where the battery power can be borrowed for a while.

Save one car that doesn't use it's battery along with a set of jumpers to use in the event someone can't start their car.

Brian Drysdale February 25th, 2020 12:32 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
You should have a hook line by this stage, how can you get people to work on your film or sell it to anyone if you can't pitch it?

Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 12:44 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
That's true I should be pitching it in a single line, rather than a paragraph or so. I will talk it over with others and come up with one. Thanks.

Paul R Johnson February 25th, 2020 12:53 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Why are you asking other people? You really must grow a set Ryan and not always ask other people on every subject on earth. Sometimes you will be wrong - that's life, but committees are always the groups who organise disasters.

On the light front - why add this line, because it shows you to be again looking for a rule "unless that was the wrong angle to go?" We cannot answer this - we weren't there. Upllighting looks different to downlighting. Especially shadows - you might find somebody with a 4X4 with roof spotlights might be useful?

What would be really good would be one post from you saying something like this....
"Ok, thanks, but I considered everything and went with this XXXXXXX and it was pretty good apart from ZZZZZZZ which I'll easily sort in the next one. Thanks for your help"

Normally, you post Ok, thanks, then ask another question - have you noticed?

Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 12:54 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Oh I just thought it was a good idea to ask other people's opinions on a hookline. Is that not what others do to get opinions and feedback on it?

Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 12:56 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Yes I noticed that I ask other questions after I say thanks. I ask follow up questions to advice. Is that not good? This for example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Elder (Post 1957640)
Oh okay thanks. When I did the car headlight test, I stood in front of the car and tried to go at the distance, where the lights seem to be the brightest on me, unless that was the wrong angle to go?

Well I wanted to make a script that I found interesting, and struck a cord as well. Cause if I make a script that is too 'safe', I felt there is a good chance it would be forget-able, especially if it's a micro-budget indie film, from a newcomer.

So I thought if I produce and direct something that struck a cord, it would leave more of an impression after in comparison. But I've also been a fan of darker stories usually as well.

I just asked a follow up question to the advice. Is that not good?

Brian Drysdale February 25th, 2020 01:17 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Elder (Post 1957647)
Oh I just thought it was a good idea to ask other people's opinions on a hookline. Is that not what others do to get opinions and feedback on it?

Nonsense, if you don;t know what it is, why should anyone else care? You're the writer.director/producer it's part of your job. You may get suggestions that you might "steal" but you need to have your own first, otherwise people may suspect that you don't really know what your film is about.

Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 01:28 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Oh okay. But isn't a good idea to get people's input on my hookline once I come up with one, instead of just sending it out there with no prior opinion on it?

Brian Drysdale February 25th, 2020 02:05 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
If you haven't come with one how can other people respond to it? They tend to evolve with time as you finesse it, but having one enables you to really understand what your film is really about and not just the plot.

Ryan Elder February 25th, 2020 02:09 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
What I meant was, I will come up with some, and then give it to others for opinions.

Paul R Johnson February 25th, 2020 02:29 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
The rule for me is to tell people what you intend - as in I'm calling it bla bla bla - and then if they think it's stupid, they will tell you, but DO NOT ASK for their opinion. Your opinion needs to be strong enough you dilute it. If you ask other people's opinion, remember everyone has one, if pushed, and do you really even want to consider their preference for titles when they don't have the attachment to the project you do.

You really need to learn to be decisive and make decisions - considered ones and gut reaction ones.

Ryan Elder March 2nd, 2020 12:09 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Oh okay thanks, I will try to do that and think about that.

Well as for deciding a camera, I tested some out and I think the one I will go for is the Black magic pocket camera, as it seems to have a combination of features which I like. It may be a jack of all trades, and master of none perhaps, but maybe a combination of things I like is better, rather than being a master in just one or two areas.

I could go for the 4K or 6K, but since there are no 6K TVs, it seems like an odd feature. Is that just for zooming in post, if you have to?

Brian Drysdale March 2nd, 2020 12:36 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
6k is there because Bayer sensors don't have a true resolution that matches the number of photosiites, so if you want a true 4k resolution, you need to over sample on the sensor. This is what you'd record if shooting RAW,.

This is standard on a number of high end cameras like the Arri Alexa and the RED cameras.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/35...rs-baby-anyway

Ryan Elder March 2nd, 2020 12:45 PM

Re: What camera would be best for me when it comes to color grading?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale (Post 1957724)
6k is there because Bayer sensors don't have a true resolution that matches the number of photosiites, so if you want a true 4k resolution, you need to over sample on the sensor. This is what you'd record if shooting RAW,.

This is standard on a number of high end cameras like the Arri Alexa and the RED cameras.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/35...rs-baby-anyway

Oh okay, so when you say that is what I would record when shooting RAW, you are saying that RAW is 6k?

Is there any advantage of 6K over 4 that most viewers or distributors looking at your work, will care about?


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