HM100 & 700 Series Scene File Recipes?
 

Maybe time to start new sticky?

They are on their way. I've already done a DSC calibrated scene file... I mean "PICTURE" file.

JVC engineers split the scene files on the HM700 into visual elements (GAMMA, TOE, KNEE, MATRIX, ETC.) called PICTURE Files and personal preference stuff (User buttons, White balance presets, format, frame rate, display, zebra, focus assist, etc) as SCENE files.

This is great for DV Info Net users because we can share PICTURE files without fundamentally changing any personal preferences already set on the camera.

Excellent.

Thanks Tim. I really liked the "scene" files (orginal term in HD 100 world) that you created for the old 100/110.

Look forward to it.

Thanks Tim, are you also going to do HM100?
I also was wondering about your impressions on controls on HM100 model. I have to decide between Panny HMC150 and JVC HM100. I started shooting with DVX100 and loved the layout of the camera and the toughness of the frame. However I am not that keen on AVCHD, particularly editing in FCS2. Particularly I am hesitant about aperture/shutter button and combined focus/zoom ring.

Eagerly waiting...

Yes I'll do HM100 settings too. The first goal will be to match the HM100 to a profile for the HM700. It won't be that difficult.
I own a Panasonic SD100 that I use just for home movies and I hate the log & transfer process of transoding the AVCHD into ProRes or AIC. Now that I've dragged and dropped XDCAM EX MOVs I cringe just thinking about AVCHD.
Well these are the consumer-ish aspects of the HM100 design. The ring is what it is. Just assign it as focus and use the zoom toggle with your right hand. It is a servo controlled lens anyway so zooming with a ring is somewhat pointless. You would never be able to "snap zoom" with it anyway.
As for the aperture and shutter controls I don't mind the shutter control being out of the way. It is something you would normally just set and leave anyway, but I do wish the iris control had been designed as a dial near the front of the camera.

Thanks Tim for (as usual) in depths answer.

I also think due to the format it would be very useful to match Sony EX1/EX3 to HM100. I think you'll find a lot of people using this sort of combination.

I would second that wish as an EX1 owner and a new HM100 owner wishing to intercut them. I use the CINE gammas mostly on the EX and I've chosen those on the HM100 and like them although I'd like to get more latitude out of them.

I found that by default SONY cameras match better colours than JVC, that tend to have a slight green/yellow white. I am talking of a slight colour variation but it can be easily viewd.. just watch with your eyes what you are shooting both in reality and through the camera. I would appreciate a "real white" setting.

The JVC wb presets are a bit colored, but with a manual wb setting I find a very natural look. Tim'e dsc should please you though if you are looking to produce without a color/look treatment.

Still no picture files? :(

I'm really interested in seeing some scene files. I have always had an engineer to set up my camera so I have no idea how adjusting the gamma, toe etc will affect the final picture. As well coming from a news world all the cine stuff is kinda confusing. I am really looking forward to Tim's new DVD as I hope he explains all of this in detail.

No picture files yet? Are there some problems?

I've just been plain busy on the new tutorials along with my day jobs. I have so much stuff to upload!
I just got some new charts from DSC, including a custom linear grad for determining gamma curve response. There will be good stuff soon enough.

Thanks a lot Tim!

picture profiles
 

Just to add I'd also welcome PP settings for the 100 to match it with EX1 - cheers!

No news? It's been months since the HM700 is out.... no serious DOP has some settings to share ? :)

A testmagazine in Germany (VideoaktiDigital) says
in a test, that the color-resolution with 35Mbit/s is really
better then Hpx301 with 4:2:2 with AvcIntra.

The first is to set the Kneepoint (80/85%),
Compress the black (3), when you want the master black
and the gamma.
The important facts for the HM700 is to
set the kneepoint and the gamma,
the black tones must be darker,
sayd the german magazine.

Thanks.. I did some tests myself and found a nice result with a +2 black.. but obviously it depends what result you want, what and where you shoot, etc.. but... I'd really like a proper set of settings done by serious DOP... ALso some picture profiles for matching other cameras...

I read Tims picture recipes, but the old recipes are only for the older JVC-Cams.

Today I shot some tests, and the best is at daylight-shots to compress the dark tones
(at max. Level 3), the gamma a little bit (sometimes), but the Master-black max. 1 step. With the right zoomfactor and iris around 5,6 will be the best results.

Sometimes the ND-Filter are not dark enought for me,
so I take the shutter around 1/200 - 1/500 to limit the bright sun-light
in some situations outside. Other cams got the opportunity to set the
gain in the negative (like - 3 dB), that will effect like a better ND-Filter.

I shot with an manuel knee at 80 %.

The next day I am on image-shots - indour and outdoor and I will make my best
with the HM700, but the 35 MBit/s is really sharper then HPX301 with AVCIntra.
(More resolution lines and more colour resolution!)

So I broke down and bought my HM100. I am off on Sat to film on Rainier for 3 days. Any file recipes for HM100 for best, most accurate colors? Thanks!

Tim.. still no news? Sorry to insist

Lighten up :)
 

Hey, guys, lighten up. Tim is a working DP and BUSY!

I think it's great that he goes through all the work that it takes to make his tested picture and scene files available to all, but it all takes time.

Besides, you should always make scene and picture files that match your particular camera. There is such a wide variance in all cams (some more than others), that no one settings file is going to work 100% as well as the individual cam they were tested on. So consider ANY settings file as a good start point, to be further tweaked for the cam you are actually shooting with.

Because of this variance, I am lucky enough (or cursed) to be able to have a JVC cam set up for each of my shooting specialties. A settings file that is perfect for one cam, isn't so good on another (even the same exact model). Plus there is the hardware changes and special tweaks that make having different camera systems for differed specialties a good choice for me.

Here is an example of what I mean: JVC Four Amigos

I shot every day with the HM700 for TV, Image and short-movies for TV,
everybody needs his own settings, good is
to set the kneepoint from 100 to 80/85,
compress the black tones, in the picture
will be crisp.
Hard contrasts due to wide iris can cause CAs.

picture profiles / scene files
 

Did Tim or any others complete any picture profiles / scene files for HM100 / EX1 combination?