Sorry, I didn't get that from your post. My apologies.

http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/CA...e/gyhm100u.pdf

New brochure on HM 100.

For $2,995. it would be revolutionary, and still be "under $4000." It would be a recession-buster price. And for the 700, $5,995. would be awesome.

WE NEED FOOTAGE!
They really want to torture us with this stuff, don´t they...

Now we are talking: B&H lowered the price by $500 to $3495. Approx. arrival in April... Still no footage anywhere though...

Yes I'm seriously considering this camera as well, and everybody is quite right, some sample footage would be fantastic, pretty much the only thing for me now that will allow me to make a decision to invest in the camera or not.

And it would be better to be original media from the cards.
QT and .iso. Just 10-20 seconds will do.

Just wondering...
 

Anybody have any idea what the minimum mac computer/specs would be to edit these files from this nifty camera? G5? processor?

thanks

My guess is at least an Intel iMac.

its only Mpeg2 so wont need much if u have a decent video card

since it will be recorded in .mov one should be able to edit on any machine that fits the specs for FCS2.

I can tell you that 35mbps 1080p struggles to maintain a constant frame rate on a 2.16Ghz Duo Core 2 Macbook with 1GB of Ram. 720p does better but the real issue is 35mbps bottlenecking with slow (5400RPM) hard drives or a slow-connection to an external drive (USB2.)
Of course dropped frame during editing doesn't affect the ultimate ability to edit XDCAM EX 35mbps on a low-end Mac, it just makes it a frustrating process.

If I judge from EX-1 files with my own Quad Core Q6600 and 4GB of ram (now I have 8) and using first Liquid and now Media Composer, I could say that those files are very very easy edited with a medium strength PC. I have tried with over 4 hours timelines and with 10 layers with two FX each. Everything went RT. About Mac I have no clue.

i agree with george - i use edius 5 on an average PC and it chomps up long gop mpeg2 with ease - sounds like FCP users love a hard time - more i hear about FCP the more i am glad i have a PC.

I don't know about XDCAM, but my G5 (with 2.5 RAM) did just fine with DVCPRO HD footage. Correct me if I am wrong, but the bite rate in this one is somewhere in range 50mbps?

Bit rate will affect data transfer to and from the hard drives but DVCPRO will be much easier to decode for a processor than Mpeg2 (XDCAM.)

Well I beg to differ about 30p being better than 24p. 30p is great for HD 720p broadcast or 1080i cross conversion broadcast, but fairly awful for downconversion to DVD or for international sales (Pal). NTSC DVD players decode 24p and 60i. 30p comes out as the worst of both formats rammed together in a train wreck. All the static straight lines of buildings and windows looking instead like venetian blinds buzzing in the wind at the lead edge of a hurricane.

I find it very frustrating that B & H already has the GY-HM100U listed on their web site at $3495 but nothing on the obviously much more anticipated GY-HM700U.

B & H Photo - JVC GY-HM100U - $3495

I called them today to see if I could get an answer as to when they would have it listed on their site and was told hopefully by April. Their web site states the GY-HM100U has an approx arrival of April. I wonder if the delivery of these new cameras is being pushed back to April instead of the original March date? Everything I've been reading on these cameras says March. Heck, March is only 10 days away! I hope we don't have to wait until April or later to see this camera in stores.

today
 

I've seen today a GY-HM100 sample in JVC Italy in Milan.
The camera is small, but has all described functions as in pdf on web site.
i can confirm that it will arrive after HM700, even if HM700 hasn't up today a defined price.

i've recorded something in 720/50p and 1080/50i.
i hope i can see these files soon.

I hate to beat a dead horse but low light perfromance is pretty much key to what I do. Has anyone played enough with this camera to see how it performs against they current GY-HD100? and how the image quality is in comparison? Is it considered a step down from a GY-HD100? or up?

I'm assuming your not talking about the HM100 and instead referring to the HM700 right?

The HM100 is in a different category than the HD100.
HM700 is a huge step up from the HD100.

no I meant the 100, I was just wondering. I know it only has 1/4 inch chips but they have made some advancments in chips so I was wondering how they compared. I thought they were in different classes at first but if you look at a GY-HD100 without the big lens its not that much different than a GY-HM100. The HM100 records in a higher quality format over the GY-HD100 too. You cant really compare the GY-HM700 to a GY-HD100 its a $4,000 camera vs a $7000. The HM100 is the GY-HD100s price range.

No point in doing that though, because without the lens the HD100 is useless. It's more accurate to say that the HD100 & HD200 series cameras are very similar in size and shape to the HM700.

It depends entirely on the configuration. An HD110 or HD200 with the Fuji 17x lens is $7200, roughly the same price as the HM700.

The proper comparison is obviously between the HD series and the HM700 since they are similar in size, weight, form factor (interchangeable lenses, etc.).

low light in HM100
 

i've seen a single file with lolux recorded by HM100.
i can't say if it's better of the HD100 files, but new chips on HM100 should be able to give a real improvement even with 1/4" size.
Another question (imho) is how much Full auto on HM100 is a good solution to get best results?
i felt you can reach the best only using manual settings.

I guess I was trying to point out the marketing side of it and what camera is replacing what camera. From where I sit it looks like the GY-HM100 is replacing the GY-HD100(110) and the GY-HM700 is replacing the GY-HD200(250) in a price point anyway. Thats why im curious to see if the HD100 is comparable to the GY-HD100 in specs.

Well, not quite REPLACING. The HM700 doesn't do Standard Def. I'm holding onto my 200's for the sole purposes of instant archiving to tape and the ability to shoot SD and hand tape over to clients OR for multicamera live switched applications where SD is required.

The HM series does not "replace" the HD series. The HD series isn't going away just yet. The HM series is an expansion of the ProHD product line.

Chris,

I dont know if this has been answered before, forgive me if it was, but did you and Tim get to test the hm700 in dark or low light conditions?


Ted

That's a question for Tim (I held it briefly while it was powered on in a low-light restaurant, but I didn't record anything). Tim had more hands-on time with it than I did.

Tim, I just downloaded a sample in xdcam 1080/60i and G5 handles it all right.

MacVideo - Camera Technology - Features - Check out the JVC GY-HM700 and GY-HM100

in this video it was stated that the HM100 will be on sale around £2800-£2900 when released end of April

At today's exchange rate, thats $4066-4212 U.S.

That would be about the same (or a bit more) than the initial pricing at B&H for the HM100. But B&H has since dropped the price $500.

Is there a difference between list price and street price in the UK?

I wouldnt compare US $ with UK £ directly as electronic goods are always more expensive here than in the US.

I think the B&H price is directly comparable to the UK price stated but I guess we'll have to wait n see for the actual pricing - I only commented as a guide really.

4000$ are always 4000 euros in Greece.
Some times even more.

USA Price for EX1 is 6100$ app.
This should be 4800 euros here in Greece or so but it is 6500 instead.

You can't go more crazy than that.

Craig,

Hi, just wondering if you thought it was likely that we would see some sort of trade in or rebate with our older equipment yet. Reason I just got a decent quote to sell my JVC JY-HD10u that I've had knocking around for a decent amount. Probably looking at a HM-100 or as I thinking more likely the HM-700. May or may not trade in/sell off my HD110 with accesories. Haven't decided on that one yet.

Will the HM100 have similar variable frame rate controls to that of the HM700 or is that still unknown at this point?

Also it appears that the HDMI port does not support 1080p video output, only 1080i, 720p and 480i. That I think, is a bit odd considering the camera can record up to 1080p30.

I've still got an HD10U also. What's a good price to sell them at nowadays?

The only bid I've recieved (most places don't want it) was $295. If the color wasn't soo noisy I would keep it even though it's 30p.

i saw the GY-HM100 at a local show. The camera looks smaller than ever.

Craig Yanagi was there and he put on a JVC wide angle on the camera. It was very small (due to the 46mm, I believe, of the front thread) and was excellent on the camera. He said it was .5x -- and it had surprisingly small amount of distortion. This was a missing link for me up to now.

Craig said the wide angle would be available at some point, and I think he mentioned a ballpark price that was comparable relatively to Canon's pricing on the wide angles it makes for the XH-A1 and HV30.

Schneider was also there looking at the camera, and the they said they may well have a wide angle available for the HM-100 by the time it comes out.

The mechanism to remove the handle and audio section from the camera is quick, easy and seems very sturdy.

I think this camera will have a market for people needing a small form factor with professional audio and video recording choices in a quick to transfer format. I'm hoping the camera proves to be "rugged" within the limits that can be expected of electronic gear. I hope it holds together as well as the PD150 did, for example.

I have high hopes for the image stabilzation, hoping it is very good.

On comparing the flip-out screen with the monitor set up, it seemed possible to use the flip-out scream for focusing. The screen seemed much better for this than some previous camera models.

It is still not clear what the low-light performance will be. The camera controls (zoom, e.g.) need to be tested in real situations. However, from what I saw the unit fits a need. I recently used an XH-A1 for some long distance travel and run-and-go shooting. The XH-A1 was just too big to be most effective, despite the outstanding pictures it makes. From what I've seen, for me at least, the small form factor HM-100 is going to be an excellent compromise with some superior features.

Indeed the 100 may be perfect for travellers. I will be going to Europe and India for 6 months and I was planning to bring my XHA1 and HV30 but I would certainly enjoy a less heavy load. I wont be leaving before fall so I also have some hope for a smaller camera from Canon or Sony; a MPEG2 at 25mbps would be enough for me, but I would really like a wide angle lense more usuful for what I do than a long lense.