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Bill Ravens January 25th, 2008 03:45 PM

I just received my DSC Camette v8.1. Not exactly huge, but, it works, I think. I went thru Paolo's procedure for the HD110 and came up with some different numbers. For what it's worth, here's what I got:

AE LEVEL +3
MASTER BLACK -3
BLACK COMPRESS +3
WHITE CLIP 108%
KNEE MANUAL
LEVEL 90%
CINELIKE OFF
MATRIX STANDARD
RGAIN NORMAL
RROT 4
GGAIN 2
GROT NORMAL
BGAIN 2
BROT -2
ADVANCED GAMMA CINE
LEVEL MAX
COLOR GAIN NORMAL
WHITE PAINT B +15 AT 3700 KELVIN

I used a high power quartz light and white balanced very carefully. It was very difficult bringing yellow in on the vectorscope until I introduced the Blue white paint.

Not sure what I did was correct and I'll repeat the process later. Nevertheless, I'm very happy with the images I'm getting now. I have been using TC3.

Alex Dunn March 14th, 2008 02:06 PM

I'm looking for a scene recipe for a cool blue look that retains the details of the other colors. I've toyed with using the Amelie flavor just reversing the blu and grn settings but that was ugly. Any ideas?

Paolo Ciccone March 14th, 2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Dunn (Post 842583)
I'm looking for a scene recipe for a cool blue look that retains the details of the other colors.

I advice to not do that in camera, post processing is where this should be done.

Valentin Fuhrer May 28th, 2008 09:26 AM

Scene file to approximate a particular look ?
 
Hi All,

I'm just starting to try different scene files as a starting point for adjusting the look I get with my JVC HD100U.

I happened to come across this HD demo reel and really love the way it looks - especially the outdoor shots.

http://www.flashvideofactory.com/tes...H264_500K.html

Does anyone have an idea which scene file might come closest to approximating the look achieved here? I know there are many other factors - lol Just looking for a starting point.

Thanks!

- valentin
artist, producer, ninja

George David May 28th, 2008 11:09 AM

I think that's just great cinematography, framing and lighting :-) TC3 is probably a good starting point. Lots of good post work there.

David Allen Smith June 6th, 2008 01:07 PM

I am unable to open or view Stephen Noe's scene files does anybody have a copy of the files or a link?

Thanks

David Scattergood June 12th, 2008 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Allen Smith (Post 889248)
I am unable to open or view Stephen Noe's scene files does anybody have a copy of the files or a link?

Thanks

Here's a copy of the Pana Match recipe David:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachmen...9&d=1181405977

On a similar subject I'm wondering if there are any other cine/film look recipes around at the moment.
On an upcoming 'film' project I've been asked whether I can shoot 'so it looks likes film rather than video' . Of course I explained that the camera being progressive rather than interlaced will make great strides towards this goal - an in fact on footage shown on his television set he understood the differences straight away. However aside from a wide angle lens/35mm lens and other apparatus (and lighting...composition etc) is there anything I could tweak (motion blur/cinelike) within the HD100 or should I perhaps concentrate on absorbing as much 'reality' from the lens (say using Paulo's Tru Col 3 file) and then figure the rest out in post?
I'm loading Stephen's Pana Match this week so I'll give that a good 'rummage'.

I'm struck at some of the different footage I've seen on these boards using the standard lens and indeed using Tim Dashwoods Film Noir I managed to pull off some fantastic, film looking footage.
I'm hoping Tim's DVD is released for PAL soon...:)

David Allen Smith June 12th, 2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood (Post 891946)
Here's a copy of the Pana Match recipe David:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachmen...9&d=1181405977

On a similar subject I'm wondering if there are any other cine/film look recipes around at the moment.
On an upcoming 'film' project I've been asked whether I can shoot 'so it looks likes film rather than video' . Of course I explained that the camera being progressive rather than interlaced will make great strides towards this goal - an in fact on footage shown on his television set he understood the differences straight away. However aside from a wide angle lens/35mm lens and other apparatus (and lighting...composition etc) is there anything I could tweak (motion blur/cinelike) within the HD100 or should I perhaps concentrate on absorbing as much 'reality' from the lens (say using Paulo's Tru Col 3 file) and then figure the rest out in post?
I'm loading Stephen's Pana Match this week so I'll give that a good 'rummage'.

I'm struck at some of the different footage I've seen on these boards using the standard lens and indeed using Tim Dashwoods Film Noir I managed to pull off some fantastic, film looking footage.
I'm hoping Tim's DVD is released for PAL soon...:)



Thanks a lot David! I am looking forward to hearing how the settings work for you. Have you tried using the or do you have the "Any Scenario" settings

Daniel Weber August 2nd, 2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentin Fuhrer (Post 884436)
Hi All,

I'm just starting to try different scene files as a starting point for adjusting the look I get with my JVC HD100U.

I happened to come across this HD demo reel and really love the way it looks - especially the outdoor shots.

http://www.flashvideofactory.com/tes...H264_500K.html

Does anyone have an idea which scene file might come closest to approximating the look achieved here? I know there are many other factors - lol Just looking for a starting point.

Thanks!

- valentin
artist, producer, ninja

That's not a demo reel. It is a trailer for the DVD Heima by the Icelandic Band Sigur Ros.

It was all shot in HD. Not sure which format. Probably HDCAM. Very high end production.

Daniel Weber

Rob Stowell September 16th, 2008 08:10 PM

I'm trying to find paulo's "truecolor" scene files- but it seems his website is dead. Any other links?

Paolo Ciccone September 17th, 2008 08:48 AM

Hi Rob.

My site is back up. Clueless host moved to physically a new machine and forgot to mention it to me. Apologies to everybody who tried to connect in the past hours.

Rob Stowell September 17th, 2008 06:05 PM

THANKS Paulo.
I'm looking forward to trying out the settings. But also fascinating to read about how you got there. Good practical stuff. I have a feeling it will work well with PAL- but since PAL colour is a little different, I'm now armed with knowledge that may allow me to start tweaking myself!
Regards- Rob

Shaun Roemich September 17th, 2008 07:01 PM

Paolo: just printed the calibration article. Looking quite forward to seeing it in action on the next shoot I can experiment on. Thank you in advance.

Paolo Ciccone September 18th, 2008 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Stowell (Post 938685)
THANKS Paulo.
I'm looking forward to trying out the settings. But also fascinating to read about how you got there. Good practical stuff. I have a feeling it will work well with PAL- but since PAL colour is a little different

Hi Rob. You're very welcome. If you mean that PAL uses the SD color space instead of the 709 standard for HD then yes, there is a tiny difference but I don't think that it should account for much but let us know you're findings.

Good luck.

Stephen L. Noe September 27th, 2008 03:39 PM

Tim Dashwood
 
Hi Tim,

None of the links to my scene files are available (from the first post). Can you please relink the files? I get request for them and would like them to remain active on the board.

Thanks,

Stephen L. Noe

Michael Krumlauf October 15th, 2008 06:11 PM

do these files work with the HD110?

Mathew Severns November 28th, 2008 10:25 PM

Just ordered a new gy-hd110u, and wanted to second that question... Will these work on the 110 too? I'm assuming you still use them the same way...

Thanks!
MAT

Tim Dashwood December 4th, 2008 04:10 PM

Yes. As far as I know all the HD100 scene files should load just fine in the HD110.

Mathew Severns December 5th, 2008 10:57 PM

I tried clicking on the zipped .scn file for the any scenario recipe, and I didn't have permission... Tried the recipe, it 404'd... Went to the discussion and clicked the link there, that worked... So, thought someone might want to fix that. Just thought I should let someone know :)

Matt Lehman December 29th, 2008 09:36 AM

Aerial Photography in 1 day and Scene files
 
[I apologize if anyone has already posted this question]
So, in 1 day I will be taking a short (40 mins) cross country flight and back again to ‘home base.’ Since my recent purchase of the JVC HD100 I sleep with it and it doesn’t go anywhere without me…seriously…

We will be about 7 small planes (all prop) in a loose formation flying to and from our destination.

Does anyone have any tips, suggestions and or settings for shooting aerial?
Anyone have some scene files that I could load and go with?
Frame rate suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

Ted Ramasola December 30th, 2008 02:29 AM

When I was shooting with the HD100 on a 4 seater prop, and I had no stabilizer of any sort except cushions that i prop against an open window I used 60p SD which i uprezzed later in post.
I got away with it since it composed only a few seconds in the total production.
Scene file was Paolo's TC3.
If you can get away with it too, or when your final delivery is DVD or SD then I suggest this over 30P as you can use "longer" stable shots in butter vibrations and bumps when you slow down your overcranked footage.

When I got the HD200, I used 720 60P for another aerial project again without special stabilizing equipment on a four seater prop.
Scene file was Tim Dashwood's superwide but slightly modified.

60P allows you to maximize the portions that are stable when in post.


Ted

Juan Todoli June 3rd, 2009 08:35 AM

As a newbie, very much thank you for this kind of posts.

J.

Pat Sherman August 7th, 2009 05:43 AM

I have so been looking for a thread like this. Excellent. Thanks all who spent the time on this.

Alex Humphrey January 9th, 2010 10:45 PM

Exposing for Highlights and black stretching for shadows.
 
Detail: Min to -5
Color Matrix & Gama: Normal. (I can and often do lower the saturation in post by 25 in FCP)

Exposing for the Highlights on faces and black stretching for the shadows...

In comparison to automatic exposure. Meaning if the camera thinks the scene calls for f4 but I think f5.6 is needed for taming the highlights on a subjects face, I'll then do a Black Stretch of 2, assuming I don't have a reflector and assitant to do it without the digital blackstretch.

Close down 1/3 = 1 Black Stretch
Close down 2/3 to 1 Full stop then 2 Black Stretch.


Im reverting to something a little more simpler these days.... Mostly because i'm not happy with the CineGama setting that I thought I used to like... I've never liked the low end of CineGama where the blacks fall off too quickly. That to me was what video always looked like, not film. Film to me was always less contrasty, especially with movie film. I'm still using my JVC HD110 and Fujinon 16x lens.. though my Nikon E' 100 lens is quite nice by comparison, but obviously only for longer non zoomable shots.

Ross Peterson March 21st, 2011 10:34 AM

Re: HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files
 
A lot of the links for the SCN files are no longer working.

Does anyone have a link to a bunch of them zipped?

Tim Dashwood March 21st, 2011 06:42 PM

Re: HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files
 
This thread was started WAAAAAAY before DV Info Net had an attachment system and it looks like Apple has finally broken the links to my public iDisk (even though the files are still there.)

I have uploaded the files as attachments and updated the links in the original post.

Cheers.

Jay Webster March 21st, 2011 09:03 PM

Re: HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files
 
Way cool Tim, Thanks for the "re-post"!
I still work with an HD110U but had my Porta Brace bag stolen in Albuquerque, New Mexico...I fortunately had the camera in my hands at that moment....
The bag had all my Scn file cards in it ... Thank god I had saved the "faves" into the camera's memory.
Anyway...where is your new post with "wide latitude, Low Light" ...etc?
Do you mean back on page 1???
Sorry...I'm a bone head but would love to recover the files.

By the way, while I'm at it I should also thank you for the "DVD" you produced!.......it saved me a lot of time getting up to speed with the camera! Great work and sharing! Thank you very very much!

Cheers!

Tim Lewis September 5th, 2013 09:56 PM

Re: HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files
 
The links to Paolo's TC3 files seem to be broken again, does anyone have the details or the file for the HD100 series cameras, as I really want to give this a try.

Alex Humphrey December 25th, 2016 07:27 AM

Re: HD100 Series Scene File Recipes & Downloadable .SCN files
 
Kicking an old horse. Has anyone tried to use their venerable JVC HD100/110/200** to the newer JVC LS300 shooting J-Log? There are a lot of situations that the older JVC would be preferable.. that and the 17x Fujinon lens I upgraded to for events. Wish I had gotten the HD200 for the SDI output for simpler less compressed recording for post uprising to match 4K, but oh well.


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