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Mark Cowherd August 26th, 2008 02:31 PM

What format did you use for your dvd
 
Tim,
I have enjoyed your dvd very much. Which camera/framerate did you shoot the stand ups of yourself with?
Mark Cowherd
Louisville, KY
GY-HD 250u/Steadicam Flyer LE

Tim Lucas August 27th, 2008 03:00 AM

Got my copy
 
in New Zealand today. I couldnt believe how quick it got here. Took about 7 days.
I am enjoying exploring deep into the menus of this camera and learning some new stuff.

Thanks.

Dan Parkes August 28th, 2008 05:45 AM

Is the PAL version any closer to release? I noticed the last few posts are from those in PAL lands... I want to purchase a copy for the camera team, as we have a feature coming up soon and I am sure it will be an invaluable piece of the kit. I know that here in the UK we can usually play NTSC discs, but would be great to have the 'proper' version (especially if it has the bonus content/corrections mentioned previously!)

Cheers
Dan

David Scattergood September 5th, 2008 04:53 AM

^ Aye will second that. I'm sure the NTSC will be fine, but could just about hold on a little longer for the PAL version if around the corner.
Cheers.

Stuart Nimmo September 7th, 2008 11:26 AM

Aye and I'll third that!
 
Aye and I'll third that!

Tim, this is impressive stuff, really very useful indeed. Put me down for a PAL version just as soon as its available - doubtless you will let us all know when to prize open and dust off our PayPal accounts.

Nick Papadopoulos September 7th, 2008 05:09 PM

Order not received yet...
 
Hi Tim... I ordered a copy of your DVD a couple of weeks ago, and I still haven't received anything... I'm in Greece, which is why it may be taking a while, but I wanted to know if the order has been sent...

I don't know if this is the proper place to contact you, so please excuse me in advance if this is the wrong place to post...

I can't wait till it arrives... Regards,

Nick Papadopoulos

Tim Dashwood September 7th, 2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parkes (Post 926045)
Is the PAL version any closer to release? I noticed the last few posts are from those in PAL lands... I want to purchase a copy for the camera team, as we have a feature coming up soon and I am sure it will be an invaluable piece of the kit. I know that here in the UK we can usually play NTSC discs, but would be great to have the 'proper' version (especially if it has the bonus content/corrections mentioned previously!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Scattergood (Post 929569)
^ Aye will second that. I'm sure the NTSC will be fine, but could just about hold on a little longer for the PAL version if around the corner.
Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Nimmo (Post 930495)
Aye and I'll third that!
Tim, this is impressive stuff, really very useful indeed. Put me down for a PAL version just as soon as its available - doubtless you will let us all know when to prize open and dust off our PayPal accounts.

I've been cutting spots all summer, working on a TV series full time and was just hired last minute on a big feature so unfortunately the PAL version has been put on the backburner again. It is basically ready to go but I've made some tweaks for the PAL version (including some new content that I will eventually get encoded and uploaded to dvinfo for the benefit of the NTSC customers.) This will require a few days to finish off, but lately I've only been getting about 2 hours of free time a week, which I usually spend on dvinfo.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cowherd (Post 925238)
Tim,
I have enjoyed your dvd very much. Which camera/framerate did you shoot the stand ups of yourself with?

The whole DVD was shot with a couple HD100 cameras in 720p24. This has made the alternate downconversions to 16x9 NTSC 24p and 16x9 PAL 24p/25p quite painless.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Papadopoulos (Post 930609)
Hi Tim... I ordered a copy of your DVD a couple of weeks ago, and I still haven't received anything... I'm in Greece, which is why it may be taking a while, but I wanted to know if the order has been sent...

We say to allow up to 4 weeks for international orders because we really never know how long it will take to pass customs and actually be delivered. Some int'l customers in places like Hong Kong or Russia have received theirs in a matter of a few days, others take weeks. If Paypal sends you a message saying 4-7 days delivery it doesn't really mean anything. Airmail is unpredictable, but we haven't lost one yet!
All orders are usually shipped within 24 hours unless the order is placed on Friday or Saturday. My wife handles fulfillment of the orders to make sure they always get out on time!

Cheers,
Tim

Stuart Nimmo September 22nd, 2008 04:24 PM

Tim, I'm busting to part with my money... no news of the PAL release date yet? They work you too hard; Europe, Australia and PAL-land await!

Tim Dashwood September 23rd, 2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Nimmo (Post 941094)
TThey work you too hard; Europe, Australia and PAL-land await!

Ironically I've been working for Brits!

Stuart Nimmo September 24th, 2008 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood (Post 942048)
Ironically I've been working for Brits!

Well there you go, I knew someone must be giving you a hard time... I hope you quoted in sterling Tim. There's a whole chapter there about getting paid in High Def bank notes too, but maybe another time. Anyway, ready when you are Mr. DeMille, keep us posted.

I like my GY-HD201E more and more, and I particularly like the way JVC are bringing out all the goodies for it. It was time that one of the video camera manufacturers came down on our side like this really.

Jason McCormy October 2nd, 2008 09:39 AM

My boss just bought this DVD for me and I've been watching it this morning. WOW! It is great! I'm learning a heck of a lot! Fantastic job!

Jason McCormy October 3rd, 2008 10:50 AM

My disk arrived with a rather nasty scratch that I figured I could just clean out, but alas, I can't get it to play about 2 key minutes on the section concerning back focus. Hmm. Can I exchange it?

Chris Hurd October 3rd, 2008 11:04 AM

Jason, I'll take care of this. Send an email to me with your shipping address to chris at dvinfo dot net.

Shaun Roemich October 4th, 2008 08:10 AM

Jason, as an anecdote, I consider myself a pretty knowledgeable guy when it comes to cameras. I've shot well more than 20 different models in the past 10 years (some of the models are actually nearly as old as I am at 37 BTW) and while I could have figured out how to use the camera without Tim's DVD, my understanding of the camera and what it can do is 5 fold after watching.

My hat (not that I choose to wear one most days) is off to Tim for producing the DVD in the first place as well as being such a fount of knowledge on here. It was Tim's recommendation that got me to get off the fence and purchase the camera (I now own two of them) from a Canadian retailer that Tim recommended to me and most days I giggle when I think about what I've now got and what I paid a truly unique piece of technology that fits VERY nicely between what the "big boys" are producing these days.

So, in closing, if anyone owns or is thinking about purchasing a 1xx or 2xx series JVC camera and you haven't already picked up the DVD, DO IT. Even this "old dog in spirit" learned SEVERAL new tricks... MAN, I love the advanced menu...

Tim Dashwood October 4th, 2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason McCormy (Post 946464)
My disk arrived with a rather nasty scratch that I figured I could just clean out, but alas, I can't get it to play about 2 key minutes on the section concerning back focus. Hmm. Can I exchange it?

I'm sorry about that Jason. It is the first faulty disk I've heard of. I'm sure it is a freak anomaly considering they were professionally replicated (not duplicated) and shrink-wrapped.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Roemich (Post 946800)
...So, in closing, if anyone owns or is thinking about purchasing a 1xx or 2xx series JVC camera and you haven't already picked up the DVD, DO IT. Even this "old dog in spirit" learned SEVERAL new tricks... MAN, I love the advanced menu...

Thanks for the kind words Shaun.

Gary Williams October 15th, 2008 07:52 AM

What about HD authoring for blue-ray
 
So Tim what dose this video have in it for producing and authoring your HD in Blue-ray? Since Apple's plan to add it to DVD Studio Pro is not going to happen anytime soon according to thier recent Quote!
Thanks Gary Williams

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/cnet/2008...57931006631737



Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood (Post 861867)
The press release: press

The preview site: http://www.dvinfo.net/prohd


Stuart Nimmo October 18th, 2008 04:34 AM

Please forgive me if I step back a bit... I understand that Tim is very busy earning a living and may not yet have had time to finish the PAL version of his JVC GY-HD 200 series DVD.

I also understand that there would be more items on the longer PAL version. I'd like to get this DVD soon though as Tim's thoughts and ideas are very worthwhile. The questions are these: what would a PAL user with a 201E(b) need to take into account for both playing the DVD here in PAL Land, (DVD's aren't really PAL or NTSC are they, did I see that the NTSC version isn't tied to North America?), and what differences,if any, are there on Tim's DVD for setting up a 201E to shoot at 25/ 50 for PAL monitoring and use? If there aren't significant differences I would buy the NTSC version at once.

G. Lee Gordon October 23rd, 2008 10:32 PM

Shipping
 
Ordered the DVD. Can't wait to get it. Do you provide tracking on the orders?

Tim Dashwood October 23rd, 2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G. Lee Gordon (Post 954911)
Ordered the DVD. Can't wait to get it. Do you provide tracking on the orders?

No tracking but the postal services around the world have been surprisingly reliable with airmail. The disclaimer: Allow up to 2 weeks in the U.S. & Canada, 4 weeks international.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Nimmo (Post 952700)
Please forgive me if I step back a bit... I understand that Tim is very busy earning a living and may not yet have had time to finish the PAL version of his JVC GY-HD 200 series DVD.

I also understand that there would be more items on the longer PAL version. I'd like to get this DVD soon though as Tim's thoughts and ideas are very worthwhile. The questions are these: what would a PAL user with a 201E(b) need to take into account for both playing the DVD here in PAL Land, (DVD's aren't really PAL or NTSC are they, did I see that the NTSC version isn't tied to North America?), and what differences,if any, are there on Tim's DVD for setting up a 201E to shoot at 25/ 50 for PAL monitoring and use? If there aren't significant differences I would buy the NTSC version at once.

There will only be very minor revisions or additions on the forthcoming PAL version, all of which will eventually be uploaded and available for free of charge here at dvinfo.net. There are only two items on the NTSC disc that won't apply to 'E' models and those are 7.5% setup and 2:3/2:3:3:2 pulldown in 60i with NTSC DV mode. I do clearly spell out the differences between the acquisition modes of the PAL and NTSC models so there will be no confusion for 'E' model users.
The DVD was authored as a NTSC region-free disc at 480p24. As far as we know the current version has worked flawlessly in PAL DVD players around the world. (Most PAL DVD players have the NTSC to PAL cross-conversion chip built in.) From a business standpoint it doesn't even really make sense for me to replicate a minimum of 500 PAL 576p25 DVDs for a marginal improvement in picture quality but I hope (cross my fingers) it will pay off if we can get them into educational institutions around the world.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Williams (Post 951489)
So Tim what dose this video have in it for producing and authoring your HD in Blue-ray? Since Apple's plan to add it to DVD Studio Pro is not going to happen anytime soon according to thier recent Quote!
Thanks Gary Williams

I shot & posted everything in 720p24 and I've always considered producing a Blu-Ray version when it was possible for me to author and burn it myself (based on my DVD Studio Pro DVD project.) I doubt the demand will be very high so a replication order would be out of the question. Frankly there are only two sections of the DVD that would really benefit from a 720p demonstration and that would be the detail setting and noise reduction in the 200 series. However I do a 1:1 pixel blowup of the 720p source during the detail section to demonstrate the direct effects of the detail settings on 720p.

Stuart Nimmo October 24th, 2008 01:44 AM

Thank you Tim, SOLD!
 
Quote:

There will only be very minor revisions or additions on the forthcoming PAL version, all of which will eventually be uploaded and available for free of charge here at dvinfo.net. There are only two items on the NTSC disc that won't apply to 'E' models and those are 7.5% setup and 2:3/2:3:3:2 pulldown in 60i with NTSC DV mode. I do clearly spell out the differences between the acquisition modes of the PAL and NTSC models so there will be no confusion for 'E' model users.
The DVD was authored as a NTSC region-free disc at 480p24. As far as we know the current version has worked flawlessly in PAL DVD players around the world. (Most PAL DVD players have the NTSC to PAL cross-conversion chip built in.) From a business standpoint it doesn't even really make sense for me to replicate a minimum of 500 PAL 576p25 DVDs for a marginal improvement in picture quality but I hope (cross my fingers) it will pay off if we can get them into educational institutions around the world
Tim, you are a gentleman and a scholar, SOLD as is! SOS! May I ask your advice please? I have a shoot in a few days time using both my GY-HD 201E(B) and my Digital Betacam As I understand it they will both be very static basically locked off and feeding back to remote recorders, the JVC HD201E via firewire and the Digi Betacam via composite out and a Canopus ADVC-100 from composite to Firewire. Not the best combination but we're stuch with that.

Locking Time code..... how to achieve this? I find page 48 of the JVC manual a tad vague. It seems that I can't lock the 201E in anything other than DV mode. I could run Time Of day and clap the head but do you have a more elegant idea? The shoot is an odd one - five hours locked off (should be fun...) How well will the timecode hold do you think, given that they can't remain wired as master/slave units

Thank you Tim - I'm off to buy your DVD!

Stuart Nimmo October 24th, 2008 03:27 PM

Tim, I've received notification that you have already posted the DVD, Great, thank you! I am really looking forward to receiving it.

Stuart Nimmo October 29th, 2008 02:29 AM

And it's arrived here in Paris! My goodness that was quick Tim, amazing really. Thank you very much I can't wait to get stuck into studying it!

Jason McCormy November 5th, 2008 06:13 PM

Thank you! I came back from the trip to find you had mailed the replacement to my boss, so thank you very much! This one is perfect!

You did a really good job making this. It is really informative.

Christer Molander December 17th, 2008 05:35 PM

I began following this thread when I bought my second GY-HD Camera two months ago. And I really know about lack of time but I gotta ask.
Is the PAL-version a week or three months away?
From the demoparts Iīve seen of the ProHD DVD it seems really worth the waiting but itīs december now.

Earl Williams December 19th, 2008 07:25 PM

ProHD DVD
 
Purchased the DVD today and I hope it helps me out with my transition to HD and my new HD 200 cameras

Christer Molander January 10th, 2009 01:26 PM

Hello Cris and Tim. Do you have any information on the PAL-version? Hope you not have you cancelled that project? If you have, I will order the NTSC but it would really feel sad if the PAL-version is available soon after. I will be much grateful to know beforehand.

Tim Dashwood January 11th, 2009 12:29 PM

The PAL version is still on the backburner. There is way too much going on right now that is keeping us busy and we still have a quantity of the first run of the NTSC version available. We have have shipped the NTSC version around the world and have had zero complaints of compatibility with PAL DVD players. After visiting CES09 I'm starting to come around to the idea of a HD Blu-Ray release if it is financially viable.

BTW, it is likely that we will begin production on Volume 2 as soon as the HM series cameras are available.

Stuart Nimmo January 11th, 2009 04:45 PM

Bring it on tim!
 
Christer, I pestered Tim for the PAL version as well and then ordered the standard original. It's playing perfectly here both on my computer and on my PAL television DVD player. My television is SECAM but there's no problem with that either. The DVD is really excellent, full of great advice for both the U and E cameras and is very well constructed; I highly recommend it as vital and very good value.

A "Take II" would be seriously appreciated Tim, put me down for one ... and bring it on!

Christer Molander January 12th, 2009 12:10 PM

Thank you Stuart.
I figured that it will be good help.
Does it cover both the HY-HD100 and 200? I have and use one of each and want them to behave as similar as possible. In the picture I mean.

/Christer

Svein Rune Skilnand February 12th, 2009 02:33 PM

I have been waiting for the PAL- version as well. But last week I couldn`t wait any longer and ordered the NTSC- version instead. Hopefully it will play without any problems. I am eagerly looking forward to it.

Svein Rune Skilnand February 13th, 2009 10:08 AM

Boy oh boy. My new Pro HD camera AND DVD arrived at the same time. How lucky am I?

G. Lee Gordon November 2nd, 2009 08:16 PM

Tim, love the video...waiting for Volume II. If you have the time please answer a question for me... HOW THE HECK DID YOU GET SUCH GOOD QUALITY IMAGES ON YOUR DVD? What's the secret?

Tim Dashwood November 3rd, 2009 09:44 AM

There's no secret. I post everything in FCP at 720p and use compressor to do the downconvert/mpeg2 encoding.

G. Lee Gordon November 3rd, 2009 10:17 AM

Ouch, you make it sound so simple. Let me ask you this, are you using DVD Studio Pro?

Tim Dashwood November 4th, 2009 05:39 AM

Yes. The whole thing is authored in DVD Studio Pro.

Shaun Roemich November 4th, 2009 10:05 AM

My 720P downconverts look beautiful as well and I use the slightly modified "standard" 90 minute run time settings put forward in the Apple Certified Training book for DVDSP3 for the majority of my work.

No tricks. 720P seems to have MANY less issues with downconvert than any of the 1080 flavours.


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