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Wayne Morellini June 28th, 2004 07:46 AM

Here is a Naive question, as I haven't got to read through the 500 pages of the 35mm adapter threads. How does the focal length on the Microlense work, how does it effect the image?

Also is it possible to design a microlense that will narrow the image down to senor size to eliminate light loss for us, and get rid of the macro?

I have located another possibility for microlense tech. A number of sensor chips have a microlense infont of them to narrow the light down onto the senor pads of each pixel. If they can make them that small for 2/3rd inch chips then they could make them small enough for 35mm.

Justin Burris July 28th, 2004 03:52 PM

Roger,

What ever happened with the focus screen you bought from B&H? Did it end up working, or were there problems with it?

Roger Collier July 29th, 2004 02:26 PM

Justin,

The screen works really well with no noticeable grain. I ended up using 3 +10 macro filters to get my HD1 to focus on the screen. But finally my 35mm adapter is complete and it works beautifully. I unscrewed the handle on the top of the HD1 and added a tripod adapter so I can flip the camera upside down. I will be out of town next week but when I get back I would like to post some samples. Is there a place on this site that I could post them? It would be nice if all of the samples were in one place.

Roger

Les Dit July 29th, 2004 03:00 PM

Roger,
Sounds great!

Please try to post a sample that shows how the grain looks: A lot of people post either still images ( totally useless for looking at fixed pattern non-moving grain ).
The other error is posting video that is resized down to DV resolution, or video at a low bitrate that removes grain.
I recommend 6 megabits/sec Media 9 video for the JVC.
Slow pans are the best to show off the system.

-Les

Bryan Suthard July 29th, 2004 05:17 PM

Roger,

This sounds really cool but I can't help but wonder what this looks like on the camera. Can you post a picture of the setup?

Thanks,

Bryan

Daniel Moloko July 29th, 2004 05:25 PM

WOW
 
so now maybe we have the best camera (for this price range) ever?

i think the mess about doing adaptors for DV is the resolution. we all know everything looks great, but on tv resolution.

JVC HDV CAMS has a lot of great things about it. LES DIT told me that footage from the JVC transfered to 35mm looks great! and the 24 frames output from 30p doesnt looks jerky.

so, the only upgrade now is the mini35 lens adaptor for it,

everyone wants to know, IS IT WORTH ? IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD, THE DOF, AND WITH NO GRAINS?

thanks!!

Roger Collier July 30th, 2004 09:53 AM

Les,

Could you list the steps involved in converting the mpeg file created in Mpeg Edit Studio to a 6 megabits/sec Media 9 file?
And where would you recommend that I send the clip so that it can be posted?

Roger

Les Dit July 31st, 2004 12:31 AM

Two possible ways:

1: Use an editor that can directly save to the media9 video ( Vegas, I think Premeire Pro )

2: Save the video to an AVI file of some other sort, with minimal or no loss. Like the Huffman codec, it's lossless. .....or uncompressed, if you have space. Then use the free Media Encoder from Microsoft to encode the AVI file to the media9 WMV file. You have to set the bitrate and size in the encoder.

As far as posting it. I think that Chris Hurd (sp?) the guy that runs this forum can help you post it here.
Or find someplace that has free web space. A lot of DSL and internet providers giv you free about 10 to 100 meg of web space that you can FTP the file up to, and share it that way. You don't have to make a whole web page or anything, just use the place to save it as a file!

I hope that helps!
-Les



<<<-- Originally posted by Roger Collier : Les,

Could you list the steps involved in converting the mpeg file created in Mpeg Edit Studio to a 6 megabits/sec Media 9 file?
And where would you recommend that I send the clip so that it can be posted?

Roger -->>>

Daniel Moloko August 2nd, 2004 10:26 PM

hello! anyone?
 
please moderators, help roger to post the clips from the mini35 adaptor for HD10.

this is revolutionary

ciao

Justin Burris August 3rd, 2004 06:46 PM

Roger,

How do you have your focus screen mounted? Can you post pictures of your set-up?

Also, if you don't have a place to host your clip and/or pictures, I can host them for you. I have up to 25 MB worth of web space if you need.

Also, if encoding is giving you trouble, I can direct you to my ftp server, so you can upload the mpeg that the camera exports, and I can convert it to WM9.

Let me know if I can help.

Justin

Chris Hurd August 4th, 2004 07:41 AM

Roger, shoot me an email and I'll host your clips here at DV Info Net.

Roger Collier August 5th, 2004 11:18 PM

Chris,

I am out of state until Aug. 10th. I will email you a clip as soon as I return along with photos of my set up.

Roger

Les Dit August 9th, 2004 12:47 AM

720P GG video sample
 
incidentally, I started a thread with my first results off my HD10 35mm device. Sample video in both media9 and mpeg2 at reasonable bit rates.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=30235

-Les

Daniel Moloko August 16th, 2004 11:48 PM

roger,

have you even reached home?

let's put this footage online for us to see

thanks a lot :)

ciao

Les Dit August 17th, 2004 12:26 AM

I should get my free bandwidth back, but I'd be happy to upload my clip as well.
Thanks!
-Les

Gene Celso August 18th, 2004 03:15 PM

In case anyone is curious in seeing the results of the Agus35 with the GR-HD1, here's a link to a sample quicktime movie and a couple of stills.

http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/35.htm


Direct link to the movie
http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/focustest.mov

It has been reduced and resized, since the WMV files are nowhere near indicative of the actual results. Once I figure out a better compression setting for the .wmv format I'll try uploading it.

Les Dit August 18th, 2004 06:12 PM

If you use the right settings on the WMV media9 file, they are *very* indicative of the results. Try using 8 megbits/sec, and full 720P ( 1280 x 720 ) size. Use 2 pass encoding too, if at all possible. Only a few seconds are needed. Having the camera held still for a couple of seconds shows some artifacts that don't show on shaky cam type shots too , BTW.

Looks great so far!
-Les


<<<-- Originally posted by Gene Celso : In case anyone is curious in seeing the results of the Agus35 with the GR-HD1, here's a link to a sample quicktime movie and a couple of stills.

http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/35.htm


Direct link to the movie
http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/focustest.mov

It has been reduced and resized, since the WMV files are nowhere near indicative of the actual results. Once I figure out a better compression setting for the .wmv format I'll try uploading it. -->>>

Gene Celso August 18th, 2004 08:12 PM

http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/pullfocus_large.wmv

This shot is from the same footage as the last one, only this time the camera is static and is pulling in and out of focus. I encoded this as a .WMV file at 720p with around 8megabits/sec.

(There is however some banding occuring around the gradients)

Les Dit August 19th, 2004 03:12 PM

You are missing a zero on the bit rate.
You encoded 800 K bits / sec, not 8000 K bits.
That's the reason for banding, FYI.

-Les

<<<-- Originally posted by Gene Celso : http://s92673533.onlinehome.us/media/35/pullfocus_large.wmv

This shot is from the same footage as the last one, only this time the camera is static and is pulling in and out of focus. I encoded this as a .WMV file at 720p with around 8megabits/sec.

(There is however some banding occuring around the gradients) -->>>


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