Got my Monivision-Spectacular image!

Heath McKnight · July 14th, 2003, 02:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : Didn't mean to put anyone of ordering the Monivision, it has a really great picture quality, I think I've just been unlucky with mine. Talked to Monivision this morning and they will send someone out to my house to fix it within a week, they say. -->>>

That's nice that they say they'll do that...A week, though? Let's hope they come through.

heath

Don Berube · July 22nd, 2003, 10:09 AM

Paul,

Please keep us informed as to whether MoniVision follows through or not.

In the meantime, what do you guys thinks about these four monitors? Know of anything better right now for presentation purposes?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002

- don

Paul Mogg · July 22nd, 2003, 11:36 AM

I took a quick look at the first two on your list, and neither does native 720p, they both do upconverts to 1080i. That's why I went for the Monivision.

Cheers

Don Berube · August 15th, 2003, 07:36 PM

Paul,

What is the status of your Monision monitor? Did the manufacturer come through for you? What are your thoughts? Would love to know.

Thanks!

- don

Heath McKnight · August 15th, 2003, 07:52 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Don Berube : Paul,

What is the status of your Monision monitor? Did the manufacturer come through for you? What are your thoughts? Would love to know.

Thanks!

- don -->>>

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

heath

Paul Mogg · August 19th, 2003, 12:53 PM

Yes they did come through. I had a lot of bad luck with mine, but I think that's just what it was, bad luck. The Monivision people sent repair men out to my house twice to fix it, and the second time replaced everything inside the TV except for the tube.
The only issue I now have is with how to calibrate it correctly, as I found the Digital Video Essentials tape to be absolutely useless without any instructions, which they neglected to include or supply in any way, which is ridiculous.
I also still have an issue with the component inputs on the converter box that is thrown in free with it, which seem to add very faint green vertical bars, which are mainly visible with 1080i input from my JVC 30k deck, but from the camera footage do not seem to be a problem, I may have to ask them for a replacement converter box. Through the VGA inputs, these are not an issue at all.
In general I love the image from this TV and think it is probably the best choice out there for the money, to view the HD10 footage, or DVHS tapes, if you don't want a bigger screen. I would probably also get an HD digital projector if I could afford it, but 10k seems a little much right now for that.

Heath McKnight · August 19th, 2003, 01:02 PM

Paul,

I had a G4 last April that just FAILED every day. They replaced EVERYTHING inside except the Super Drive and the power supply, but STILL it failed. It's bad luck. Sent it back to smalldog.com and they gave me credit (which, I'll use to buy a G5, if I ever make any cash with the darn camera).

But, as I've never heard of Monivision, I'm skeptical about it. If they were well-known, I'd chock it up to bad luck, but I won't be buying one anytime soon.

heath

Tommy James · June 24th, 2005, 09:29 AM

Actually when one considers that only native 720p televisions can display images correctly from the JVC HDV camcorders one has to first consider that there are a lot of variables involved. First of all there is an almost lossless conversion process when you upconvert 720p to 1080i. This is because unlike going from interlace to progressive no deinterlacing or interpolation is required when upconverting progressive to interlace. The only exception is when juddering occurs then there is a reduction in image quality when viewing on a 1080i HDTV but juddering does not really look good on any monitor. Also many so called native 720p LCD televisions do not have a very good refresh rate so they sometimes cannot keep up with fast motion like a 1080i CRT monitor can. Plasmas seem to do a pretty good job but why buy a Plasma and have no money left over for a HDV camera? The best way is to bring your HDV camera to the store and start hooking it up to different kinds of televisions. You may find that the so called incompatible television actually dispalys the best picture quality.

July 14th, 2003, 02:45 PM	#16
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Mogg : Didn't mean to put anyone of ordering the Monivision, it has a really great picture quality, I think I've just been unlucky with mine. Talked to Monivision this morning and they will send someone out to my house to fix it within a week, they say. -->>> That's nice that they say they'll do that...A week, though? Let's hope they come through. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 22nd, 2003, 10:09 AM	#17
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Paul, Please keep us informed as to whether MoniVision follows through or not. In the meantime, what do you guys thinks about these four monitors? Know of anything better right now for presentation purposes? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....oryId=cat03002 - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

July 22nd, 2003, 11:36 AM	#18
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	I took a quick look at the first two on your list, and neither does native 720p, they both do upconverts to 1080i. That's why I went for the Monivision. Cheers __________________ Paul

August 15th, 2003, 07:36 PM	#19
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Paul, What is the status of your Monision monitor? Did the manufacturer come through for you? What are your thoughts? Would love to know. Thanks! - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

August 15th, 2003, 07:52 PM	#20
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	<<<-- Originally posted by Don Berube : Paul, What is the status of your Monision monitor? Did the manufacturer come through for you? What are your thoughts? Would love to know. Thanks! - don -->>> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 19th, 2003, 12:53 PM	#21
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	Yes they did come through. I had a lot of bad luck with mine, but I think that's just what it was, bad luck. The Monivision people sent repair men out to my house twice to fix it, and the second time replaced everything inside the TV except for the tube. The only issue I now have is with how to calibrate it correctly, as I found the Digital Video Essentials tape to be absolutely useless without any instructions, which they neglected to include or supply in any way, which is ridiculous. I also still have an issue with the component inputs on the converter box that is thrown in free with it, which seem to add very faint green vertical bars, which are mainly visible with 1080i input from my JVC 30k deck, but from the camera footage do not seem to be a problem, I may have to ask them for a replacement converter box. Through the VGA inputs, these are not an issue at all. In general I love the image from this TV and think it is probably the best choice out there for the money, to view the HD10 footage, or DVHS tapes, if you don't want a bigger screen. I would probably also get an HD digital projector if I could afford it, but 10k seems a little much right now for that. __________________ Paul

August 19th, 2003, 01:02 PM	#22
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Paul, I had a G4 last April that just FAILED every day. They replaced EVERYTHING inside except the Super Drive and the power supply, but STILL it failed. It's bad luck. Sent it back to smalldog.com and they gave me credit (which, I'll use to buy a G5, if I ever make any cash with the darn camera). But, as I've never heard of Monivision, I'm skeptical about it. If they were well-known, I'd chock it up to bad luck, but I won't be buying one anytime soon. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

June 24th, 2005, 09:29 AM	#23
Tommy James suspended -- contact admin Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 214	Actually when one considers that only native 720p televisions can display images correctly from the JVC HDV camcorders one has to first consider that there are a lot of variables involved. First of all there is an almost lossless conversion process when you upconvert 720p to 1080i. This is because unlike going from interlace to progressive no deinterlacing or interpolation is required when upconverting progressive to interlace. The only exception is when juddering occurs then there is a reduction in image quality when viewing on a 1080i HDTV but juddering does not really look good on any monitor. Also many so called native 720p LCD televisions do not have a very good refresh rate so they sometimes cannot keep up with fast motion like a 1080i CRT monitor can. Plasmas seem to do a pretty good job but why buy a Plasma and have no money left over for a HDV camera? The best way is to bring your HDV camera to the store and start hooking it up to different kinds of televisions. You may find that the so called incompatible television actually dispalys the best picture quality.