Death Security guard wanted!!!
 

Hello everyone,

I'm a director from Quebec, Canada and I'm searching for clip in american film of security guard that is getting killed. For now, I found

Die Hard
Matrix
Terminator
Alone in the dark
The incredible melting man
Hulk

but it is not enough...If you remember having seen these workers dying on a american film, just let me know and I'll go to rent it. I'm gonna need some of these clips for my next short film.

Regards,

Guillaume

Heat
The Fly 2
Die Hard 3

Home Video Studio....
 

Hi Guys,

I saw an AD for Home Video Studio in a magazine and decided to check it out. I went to the their website and had a look around. Does anybody know what this busines is about? I think you invest and they give you eqiupment. From the website the investment looks to be a 99 thousand dollars. I'm not even close to investing 99 thousand dollars. Have you guys seen this? Heard of it? Checked it out? thanks for the input, just curious.
http://www.homevideostudio.com/started.htm

here is the link.

Re: Death Security guard wanted!!!
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Guillaume Tremblay : I'm gonna need some of these clips for my next short film. -->>>

How do you intend to get permission to use these clips in your film?

I did not look at this one, but they are all ripoffs. The big thing in any business is finding clients, and I have yet to see a successful photo or video franchise. There are many paths ot getting into a video business, but that is not one of them.

The only thing this disgusting web site was missing were the ACTUAL words SCAM written on it! It wreaks of a scam. All they are interested in is making money, they even say that several times. The only thing this site and the companies it creates are going to do is give Videographers and small video companies a bad name.

RUN AWAY!

I don't know of one single person who got into this business because it was easy and paid a fortune.

I intend to make a deal with only one major. It may be Warner Bros, Fox, MGM, anybody, the one that have more death security guard. I called them and they told me that they can make a package deal for $10 000.

I saw a video that was from a seminar that they put on. Lets just say it was not professional.

WTF...over?
 

<<<From the website: Robert’s vision for HVSI was born from experience in film and video production. He has been involved in every aspect of the industry as a writer, producer, director, technician, cinematographer, and editor.>>>

Seems to me like the guy can't keep a job!

Here's another little gem: <<<He shot on both coasts on 16mm, 35mm, Panavision™, and æ” and Betacam™ video.>>>

Both coasts...HOLY MACKEREL! I wonder why he's avoided the middle of the country?

I guess they don't know that 35mm and Panavision are the same things! Panavision just happens to be a different camera system like Arriflex or MovieCam. And let's not forget "Betacam video"...is there any other BetaCam that I am not aware of?

I also like the fact that they are all holding and surrounded by an award that he named after himself!

If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullsh*t!

Jeesh!


RB

But wait...there's more!
 

<<<As proof that his system works for him, Robert participates in many non-business related activities: playing bass guitar in his church ensemble; vacationing with his family several times a year; and enjoying one of his favorite hobbies – cooking! He is an avid reader and, of course, a film buff. He collects classic sheet music, especially from movies and TV shows. Robert and his wife, Denise, spend hours and hours perusing local antique malls. They enjoy exploring wineries and, of course, sampling fine wine. Both are involved in serious physical fitness activities as well. Robert, for example, continues to pursue his black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Denise plays plenty of tennis. >>>

That's it dude, I'm in, I'm signing up, where do I send the check?! I want to play tennis, go antiquing and kick the hell out of someone with my karate skills if they don't give me a good price!

Let's not forget playing the bass guitar in church while sampling fine wines!

This program is niftier than a dog with two d*cks!

RB

Here's the clincher!
 

<<<"Your investment in your financial future for our
all-inclusive, completely turnkey HVSI studio
package is $ 99,900.00.">>>

Dude...if I had $99,900, why would I need this?

They've got to be kidding!

RB

Jamie,

Run away fast!

If you are really looking to run a video business then I suggest that you start by talking with a video consultant on what it takes to create professional video. They can also tell you what it "really takes" to make it work. And it won't be "every night and weekend off". They can also give you honest advice on what you can accomplish with your budget.

It also depends on the production level that you're looking to get into. You'll find that the demands/rewards at each level will vary greater.

One thing for sure is that it won't come in a magic box like that site says. You need to talk with someone in the industry and get some honest answers to your questions.

Ben Lynn

Must have a super duper codec
 

Looks like he's got some mega compression algorithm, since he illustrates his Video to Computer File Conversion link with a VHS tape and a 3.5" floppy disk.

"Super Duper Codec" Hahaha!

I also like the "Video Tape Repair" with a picture of some film negative next to it.

also,
Why do I give a sh*t what their personal hobbies are? So I feel better knowing where my $100K is going while I struggle to figure out how to make it back with this new venture I started with the money I saved from working at Walmart?

The scariest part is... you know some a-hole is going to buy into it!

The real business plan
 

I think the missing piece of the puzzle is that you go into major debt and then make it all back with several hundred real estate and car commercial videos.

Yeah! 100 bucks at a time! Should turn a profit oh in... never!

Isn't it easier and cheaper to just shoot something yourself for
that kind of money?

Editor looking for work in NC or can edit remotely of project.....
 

Just what it says. I'm a freelancer in NC but would definitely welcome projects nationwide. I have access to Avid Xpress Pro, FCP HD, Vegas 5, After Effects. I have edited many short films, one feature length film, music videos, PSA's etc. Reel available apon request.

I went to their seminar to see what was involved. If you're looking to do a lot of "shooting" or spending a lot of time editing Hollywood grade productions then this isn't for you. This program is geared more towards the consumer or small company that wants video work but can't afford the big production houses.

However, they do have a package that will allow you to make money IF you decide that you can be happy doing it. Yes, tape repair is one of the "Profit Centers" and no, you're not going to get rich doing that. It's just another way of bringing in other potential clients.

There are over 60 studios across the country. What they make varies but I have talked to the individual studio owners and 10K per month is not uncommon. One in Phoenix grossed over 25K in December.

Is it a rip off? Depends on what your thinking is. What you're paying for is not only the equipment but the sales and marketing program to generate clients in your area. No evenings or weekends? Not likely in the beginning I'm sure. The main selling point of this business is the studio support you get. There is ongoing training, weekly sales and marketing calls. You have access to accountants, marketing experts, technical support, web presense and support, etc. Almost all are toll free numbers to call. Plus you have the experience of all the other studio owners with which to call on.

I've talked with several owners that are making good money. I've also talked with some that haven't or have gone out of business. Most of them put the blame on themselves though for not following the "Prime Directives" or investing enough in marketing. Or simply not working it as a business.

Expensive. Yes it is. Very. However their target potential owner is someone in their 40's or later with money to invest in a turnkey business. Not someone fresh out of college. No different than buying a Kinko's.

I don't want to get into a pis-ing contest about this but it seems to be a working plan as long as you realize that you're not going to make the next great Hollywood spectacular. Just another way of working in the video field.

And yes, they need some SERIOUS work on their web site and collateral material.

--My 2 cents

Yea, and I've seen people on TV making $100K a month working from home stuffing envelopes! I just don't like these kind of turnkey businesses.
Pressing the "copy" button on a machine at Kinkos is a little easier to teach than the millions of skills involved in video production. Yes, to buy an existing business would be easier if the employees that actually DO the work are already there but the notion that any idiot with $100K can buy into this industry from scratch just says to me the industry quality is going down the toilet.

Look at what happened in the early 90's when Macintosh computers really started taking off. Any moron with $5K to buy a Mac suddenly thought they were a designer. The design world has never been the same.

And their website alone gives me enough reason to doubt the marketing prowess of these guys! But, to each his own. At least they're making tons of money.

No, I need clip from known american films

Let me get this straight, you called all of the majors, and they all agreed to give you access to clips for a package deal of $10,000? Or did only one of them agree to the package arangement? That would narrow down your search parameters.

Job for you?: One-or-two-camera miniDV shoots in Chicago, LA, NYC, and Vegas
 

Calling all Helping Hands:

Some execs at a big famous corporation here in NYC want to start doing some video things on their big corporate website but it's an "unbudgeted" endeavor. That means the execs who want to do this basically "have an idea" ...but very little money to make it happen, at least at the start.

They are further hesitant because they think they need to spend god-zillions of dollars to acquire the video using the very high-end professional video people who gave them astroquotes here in NYC.

I'm telling them that independent camera owners with two PD-150s (or any 3CCD mini-dv cameras) and the ability to lease and ride herd on a sound board with a bunch of wired mikes plugged to it are all they need. so now they want to looking into hiring independent videographers to do this work.

These guys are long-time acquaintances of mine (I do another kind of work for them) and they have asked my company to do these jobs. Problem is, my staff and gear are totally tapped out creating our DVDs. So here I am sharing this story and looking for people in NYC, Chicago, LA and Vegas who might want to do this work, pick-up-a-coupla-buks and get a nice big corporate name to put on your resume. Here's what the honchos are looking for:

PRODUCT NUMBER ONE: (Chicago, LA, NYC)
Two-camera shoots of simple, unamplified roundtable discussions involving as many as 10 or 12 microphoned panelists in a wide-ranging conversation about corporate stuff. In a hotel conference room using ambient light and with no live audience. Need light-sensitive cameras so they don't have to spring for lighting, so I figure this should be shot with two VX2000s, PD-150s or similar, and taped directly off the mike-mixer into the miniDV cassettes in the two cameras (one fixed, one following: ONE operator).

Then they will take the two cassettes home and look at them for a few days, writing down time codes and verbal cues for a batch of video clips to stream on their website. They'll send the cassettes back to you with the edit cues, you puil-out the clips, compress 'em, and messenger-'em to the company (midtown Manhattan) on a CD -- and wait for their next conference. What an easy job and it could be repeating business.

(They may also create a single webstream of the whole two-hour discussion, so if anyone wants to click-once and watch the whole roundtable discussion, they can do so. 100% talking heads).

PRODUCT NUMBER TWO: (Las Vegas)
They are going to shoot three-minute presentations by people hawking outdoor products in well-lit natural environments. Single camera shooting with a remote mike or two clipped to the hawkers. They will want you to shoot about 5-to-ten minutes of video from which to create these three-minute presentations. Nothing fancy at all, just people talking about their product and holding it up for the camera to look at. Very, very simple stuff.

These too will have to be compressed for web streaming. The videographer will ask pre-set questions of the hawkers, who will deliver their practiced statements, maybe repeatedly until they get it right!! You'll shoot cut-shots of the hawkers' stuff-for-sale, take the video home and knock-out the three-minute blab. Maybe some music under but probably not.

No artificial lighting in either case - this is all real close-to-the-ground simple shooting for showing on tiny Internet video windows only. A couple of cameras, a couple of fluid-heads, a remote mike you can clip to the hawkers, some kind of editing and compression back at the ranch and you're in business. Easy easy easy easy!

So there you have it. They want to shoot product one in Chicago, LA and NYC and product two in Las Vegas. They can't pay for travel yet & so are looking for locally-based talent in each case.

If you are interested in making this corporate contact please say so here in a reply to this post. After there are enough replies I'll contact my contacts at the big company and tell them 'hey take a look at this page at DVinfo.net!' and maybe you'll get a call from New York. If so: Lucky you. These are all really nice people to work with and it is a truly huge, familiar, big-name corporation. Tell something about your gear, similar stuff you have done etc., and remember to include your phone number &/or e-mail address.

Many thanks and good luck!@
Scott

nice stuff...
 

Well presented. Exactly fits the mold of the business model for internet streaming product launch. I'm in. Have the 2 dv cams and the required audio gear. As well as lighting, it's included in my rates. Even 320x240 at 15 fps at wmv9 can show the difference.
When your client is ready for Canada, I can help. I'm under an hour from Toronto except for rush hour.

Jimmy.

Thanks, Jimmy - great response. They're totally global as a company so who knows? Toronto may be on their radar screen too...
scott

Scott,

I will be happy to do that stuff here in Dallas when and if they decide to shoot here. Sounds fairly straightforward to me.


regards,

=gb=

Thanks, Greg. This group has held meetings in Dallas in the past so it's totally possible they may wish to head that way again in the future. Your contact will be passed along.
Many thanks - !

-scott

So what kind of budget do you "think" you would expect them to come up with? I mean no sense shooting everyone in the foot, after all mic'ing and shooting 10-12 people at a round table discussion could get a little freaky shooting solo with only 2 cameras. Then you have to shuttle the tape around, edit it and give them a web version. I'd just hate to see it turn into another one of these discussions.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=32947
Especially if they are a BIG company. (Just makes it easier to step on little people) I've seen companies spend $2000 on dinner to discuss how to save a couple of hundred dollars at the office! (no really, I have, and very recently).

Please, I mean no disrespect, but I just hate to see people get taken advantage of. I also hate to see people drive the industry price and expectations down. It's not good for any of us in the long run. It obviously doesn't make business sense to you to invest more resources in it so why should someone else?
It could be a really good gig. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying that I know how big business thinks and it's "who can we screw to get more for less". Come to think of it, small business is thinking that way too. Of course I also know that the BIG video production houses have some serious overhead and thus can't compete as easily on budget conscious projects that don't need $20K in effects.

Thanks for responding, Rhett.

>So what kind of budget do you
>"think" you would expect them
>to come up with?
Well like I said they don't have a budget. They are looking for a price that's lots lower than what those "BIG video production houses" charge (the ones with the "serious overhead" due to which they "can't compete"). Can't compete with who?: With independent folks here at DVinfo! I'm just trying to throw the doors open here on DVinfo and see who wants to make contact with what could be a great client relationship going forward.

>mic'ing and shooting 10-12 people
>at a round table discussion could
>get a little freaky shooting solo
>with only 2 cameras.
Not really. This is gonna be really easy. I mean really, really easy. These jobs are so simple it's just perfect for an independent shooter (with the necessary audio support) to handle. Totally no sweat, easy job. But it's so small that the large production houses with salaried people etc. just HAVE TO charge "TOO MUCH" in order to make it worth their while to send their high-end gear and costly salaried staff.

And hey some of those big production guys are my good friends: I understand and appreciate them. But they would never dream of shooting something for a corporate client on miniDV with no lights. That would just freak them out totally. Yet you and I and everyone else here knows that that is exactly what this job needs. This is not a job for a big production house! So why should small providers not bid on it? I'm just trying to enable that access, that's all.

>Especially if they are a BIG company.
>(Just makes it easier to step on little
>people)
These are fine, fine people who have always treated me well. I have done jobs for this company since the '80s. I even know the CEO. Everybody I have dealt with there is a sweetheart. Ummm...Ok, ok, there IS one guy at this company who I DON'T like. But except for him everyone I have met is great. And that bad guy works in a different department. So: NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

>I've seen companies spend $2000
>on dinner to discuss how to save a
>couple of hundred dollars at the
>office! (no really, I have, and
>very recently).
I believe you!

Please, I mean no disrespect, but
>I just hate to see people get taken
>advantage of.
Me too. And I would have no part of that. Whatever price is agreed between the big company and the small shooter is going to have to be satisfactory to the small shooter or the small shooter should not agree the price. Duh!!

>I also hate to see people drive the
>industry price and expectations down.
>It's not good for any of us in the
>long run.
I'm totally on-board with you about that. I would urge whoever does this job to charge a good healthy price. It doesn't have to be ultra ultra cheep. But we all know it won't be hard AT ALL for an independent shooter to beat the kinds of prices charged by the large midtown production houses and still walk away with a VERY tidy profit. It's just a nice opportunity, that's all, for gosh's sake...

>It obviously doesn't make business
>sense to you to invest more
>resources in it so why should someone else?
Oh boy now you're hittin' close to home! I would LOVE to do this job! But my staff is all about 'dance' and 'fitness' and 'lighting' and 'PAL' and '16x9' and now'HD' -- so when I ran this past them everybody gagged and spit. Sure we could find the time. It was a little disingenuous of me to say my 'staff and gear are totally tapped out.' -- naw, we could do it. But my people don't WANT to do it. They'd be shooting daggers at me with their eyes during the whole job. THAT's why I'm passing it along here.

>It could be a really good gig.
It is!! It is!!

>I'm not saying it isn't.
Good! Good!

>I'm just saying that I know how big
>business thinks and it's "who can
>we screw to get more for less".
"Big Business" is a pretty big group. They're not all bad. These guys are good. Take it from me.

>Come to think of it, small business
>is thinking that way too.
Ha! That's an even bigger group with a still greater variety of personalities. Caveat everybody.

Hey, Rhett! Why don't you take this job? You won't let these NY guys get away with pushing you around! Bid on it! (oops: You're inconveniently located in Plano, Texas) well anyway, relax. This is a good gig with good people. But thanks for keeping us all on our toes.

Hey Scott, glad my post wasn't taken improperly. I really didn't want to offend. You did a nice job of covering all my points of concern. It does make me feel much more comfortable.

While my profile does list me in Plano,TX I am currently in the New England area (Rhode Island to be precise). (I travel a lot, actually been to NY 5 times in the past year) I understand your crew's reasoning about the whole daggers and eyes thing, I feel the same way. I could see the finished product already and it makes me kind of cringe inside. I guess it could be a pretty good gig if they weren't expecting hi production quality (no-lights). It just reminds me of these other videos I edit on occasion that are shot like that and they make me crazy the quality is so bad, the pay is good though.

I really appreciate your reply and who knows, if they have a gig somewhere I'm going to be, I'd certainly be willing to look at it. The problem is, where the heck am I? I'll be in RI for a while but I've got projects this year in Dallas, Denver and Denmark (trying to stick to "D" places I guess, ha-ha) so we'll see.

Best wishes!

Additional information, wedding is in May. Still looking for shooters located in Vegas.

NOVA users unite!!!
 

I know there was talk last year about VA and DC area indies getting together to collaborate on projects, but it seems the post died off some time ago along with-heaven forbid-the inspiration for doing so.

What happened? It would be tremendous for skilled users to get together to learn from and to crew with, but why did the idea fizzled?

NOVA users, DC.... MD.... where are you guys?

Interested users can contact me at timothy_brwn@hotmail.com. I am contemplating throwing a BLOG together to list projects and other pertinent info about the local scene so all area users have a way to stay in touch.

Let me know if it's worth the trouble.

-Tim

I was part of that talk... and I am definitely still up for it.

I have no time to talk schedules right now, but Sunday I will post come suggestions...

Security Guards Everywhere
 

I speak for security guards everywhere... they are offended by this thread.

Monty

P.S. I am not actually a security guard.

Festival
 

The 76th Annual American Intl Film & Video Fest for non-commercial productions info at www.ampsvideo.com

Ned Cordery

I'm gonna make a deal with only one major. Warner Bros shown interest in this proposal. But for now, I just need to know films where we can see security guard that are getting killed.

Regards,

Guillaume

Well then, if you are only going to make a deal with Warner Bros, then thats where you need to look.

Washington, D.C. GL2 Users
 

Is there anybody from the GL2 family in the area, that can assist me with a shoot tomorrow, January 31st. in Greenbelt Maryland. it's a learning experience not a paid gig. I own and operate two GL2's but I need a third camera to capture this event correctly. Thanks a million if you can.

update
 

Barry did a great job shooting at the event last June.

The finished product was supposed to be available and on sale this past August, but that hasn't happened yet. The video production company (Based in Mississauga, ON, I think) hired by the parent organization did not get around to dubbing their raw tapes for me. Supposedly they have now done that and those tapes are in the hands of the person (located in Baltimore, MD), who hired them. I won't know until later this week whether those dubs are even in a useful format for editing (DV rather than VHS). A third person is supposed to visit that person's house, get the tapes and mail them to me.

The Canadian production company people have been total flakes.

I haven't edited the tapes Barry shot because his shots were complementary to the two cameras the Canadians had. I really want to get this project out of the way. It'll be my first four-camera edit. I've edited multi-camera style material such as:
http://homepage.mac.com/tvwriter/.Movies/MPAC%20Commercial.mov ... but that one was shot with one camera, by me and my lonesomes.

Looking forward, I may need a Houston-based 720p HDV shooter for a similar project the first weekend of July.

I know, I just have to find where they get killed. If you remember seeing one in the past, please let me know which film it is.

Thanks