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Gary Huff February 15th, 2019 02:01 PM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
Somebody reported a drone in Dubai, they took action, couldn't verify it, reopened in 30 minutes.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/15/du...drone-spotted/

Steve Game February 21st, 2019 09:08 AM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gunkel (Post 1949083)
People are always going to report things that they don't understand using references to things that they are more familiar with, be it ancient times or modern. There are also those who will say that they don't believe it because they didn't see it themselves. As regards mass hysteria, that is usually wheeled out to explain why groups of people reported events that aren't believed by those that weren't there, along with weather balloons and the planet Venus. I have yet to see any scientific evidence to prove mass hysteria was the reason for UFO reports, even though I have had an interest in the subject since early teens. Most reports though not all, can be explained with commonsense and a little investigation. I also have a close friend who was a fighter pilot with the Canadian Airforce and also was one of the longest serving long haul pilots with Air Canada, who has had some very thought provoking experiences.

Over the years, I have seen many unusual things that people near me couldn't understand, although to me it was quite clear what they were, including twice seeing weather balloons at high altitude, aircraft landing lights that appeared to be stationary as they turned, police helicopter searchlights, and chinese lanterns to name a few. However, as a pilot and drone flyer, if I saw a drone flying near an airfield and reported it, I would be pretty miffed to be told that I had seen a plastic bag blown by the wind.

Roger

Well Roger, it looks like the police will have better powers soon to ban the flying of drones without explicit permission within the ATZ (air traffic zone) of a licenced aerodrome. There will also be a similar ban on flying within 2.5NM of the runway(s) centre line(s) extended out 5km from each end. The police will also have stop (ordering a flier to land a drone immediately) and search powers for papers, and of premises and drone flight information. It may be a disappointment for the sensible ones (twas always the way) but there are other antisocial and criminal issues with drones that will at last be able to be controlled.

Roger Gunkel February 21st, 2019 11:02 AM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
The trouble is though Steve that no amount of bans and police powers will stop those that want to fly outside the law doing so. Rules and regs are one thing but enforcement is another, as witnessed by criminal and anti social behaviour across society as a whole.

The existing rules regarding drone flying are already quite restrictive, but as you say, it will mean a number of new restrictions on those happy to fly within the regulations, but probably little or no effect on those who have no regard for the law.

Roger

Gary Huff February 21st, 2019 11:23 AM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
None of these new rules will stop phantom drone sightings.

Steve Game February 22nd, 2019 05:02 PM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gunkel (Post 1949315)
The trouble is though Steve that no amount of bans and police powers will stop those that want to fly outside the law doing so. Rules and regs are one thing but enforcement is another, as witnessed by criminal and anti social behaviour across society as a whole.

The existing rules regarding drone flying are already quite restrictive, but as you say, it will mean a number of new restrictions on those happy to fly within the regulations, but probably little or no effect on those who have no regard for the law.

Roger

Regrettably, it is unlikely to completely shut down irresponsible drone use but the upcoming mandatory registration will gradually reduce unregistered kit from the field as stop and search starts to bite.

Brian Drysdale April 15th, 2019 12:37 AM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
Seems they're also looking at a possible "inside job" or someone who knows the airport's procedures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47919680

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003vwg

Paul R Johnson April 15th, 2019 01:47 PM

Re: London Gatwick Airport: Drones ground flights [BBC News]
 
Looks like a little information spun badly. Airport communications are pretty easy to listen into as thousands of enthusiasts already know. Airband is for safety reasons not encrypted. Some of the grounds services are though, and that includes many of the security and confidential ops - they know they can be listened into and over the past few years have gradually been made much more secure. They're trying to shift the blame from them having systems that are prone to disruption from a five hundred quid Argos drone, to a special one that doesn't show up on the new mega expensive radar.

It's quite laughable really. They had plans, but they were clearly poor ones.


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