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Marlon Torres April 12th, 2007 11:23 PM

Last Son of Celeste *Watch the first six minutes*
 
My little short. Shot on an XHA1 & M2.

http://www.citizencine.com/films/cel...ipero_6min.mov

Enjoy!

Chan Ee Jien April 13th, 2007 10:24 AM

Roughly how long will the whole short film be? :)

Marlon Torres April 13th, 2007 04:09 PM

23 minutes

Gabriel Yeager April 13th, 2007 05:22 PM

Marlon, that is nice.

That intro scene was very nice!

It looks like it will be a really good movie. I liked Junipero(?) when you showed that before.

The blue coloring in that forest looked sweet. Very nicely done.

Now time for the questions:
What is your budget for this film?
What do you do for the lighting in the forest-type areas?
How do you find the forest-type areas?
Did you make it look blue in post, or did you use a filter?
And do I have any other questions? -- Nope! :-D

Thanks for posting this here. I hope you are having a lot of fun making it!
~Gabriel

Tyson Perkins April 13th, 2007 10:59 PM

Your scene files are a secret arent they Marlon?

Marlon Torres April 13th, 2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel Yeager (Post 659790)

Now time for the questions:
What is your budget for this film?
What do you do for the lighting in the forest-type areas?
How do you find the forest-type areas?
Did you make it look blue in post, or did you use a filter?
And do I have any other questions? -- Nope! :-D

Thanks for posting this here. I hope you are having a lot of fun making it!
~Gabriel

1. Well I spent $3500 for the camera and the $500 on costumes. Does the camera count? Maybe another couple hundred on tapes and feeding my actors/actress.

2. All natural lighting.

3. San Francisco is full of parks that look like forests :)

4. Colors all done in post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins (Post 659913)
Your scene files are a secret arent they Marlon?

What do you mean?

John Bosco Jr. April 14th, 2007 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=Marlon Torres;659917]1. Well I spent $3500 for the camera and the $500 on costumes. Does the camera count? Maybe another couple hundred on tapes and feeding my actors/actress.

2. All natural lighting.

3. San Francisco is full of parks that look like forests :)

4. Colors all done in post.



Wow! All natural lighting! Hard to believe on the inside shots as their was good modeling on the actors faces. Did you use any add on lenses? You achieved a nice shallow depth of field. One more question... which mode did you use, 60i or 24f or 30f? Enough with the questions... really nice work!

Tony Nguyen April 15th, 2007 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=John Bosco Jr.;660147]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 659917)
Wow! All natural lighting! Hard to believe on the inside shots as their was good modeling on the actors faces. Did you use any add on lenses? You achieved a nice shallow depth of field. One more question... which mode did you use, 60i or 24f or 30f? Enough with the questions... really nice work!

I'm wondering the same too...

Marlon Torres April 16th, 2007 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=John Bosco Jr.;660147]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 659917)
1. Well I spent $3500 for the camera and the $500 on costumes. Does the camera count? Maybe another couple hundred on tapes and feeding my actors/actress.

2. All natural lighting.

3. San Francisco is full of parks that look like forests :)

4. Colors all done in post.



Wow! All natural lighting! Hard to believe on the inside shots as their was good modeling on the actors faces. Did you use any add on lenses? You achieved a nice shallow depth of field. One more question... which mode did you use, 60i or 24f or 30f? Enough with the questions... really nice work!

I used a Redrock M2. Shot all on 24f.

Tyson Perkins April 16th, 2007 12:29 AM

what kind of settings?

Marlon Torres April 16th, 2007 12:46 AM

You mean in-camera? Custom setting for each location.

Tyson Perkins April 16th, 2007 12:49 AM

I'm look specifically at the shot of the male character as he lays his head down on the table - and then his girlfriend calls out for him - you got a very nice look there

Marlon Torres April 16th, 2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins (Post 660999)
I'm look specifically at the shot of the male character as he lays his head down on the table - and then his girlfriend calls out for him - you got a very nice look there

Really? Personally I thought it's the worst looking scene in the movie... hahaha

Tyson Perkins April 17th, 2007 10:11 PM

It looks quite well graded - and i mean considering using one of the lower end HD cams - i was extremly impressed.

Marlon Torres April 17th, 2007 10:56 PM

Thanks, but I'm more interested in what people thought about the storytelling... did it make you want to watch the rest of the movie?

Nathan Quattrini April 18th, 2007 08:13 AM

I can`t say I understand whats going on. Is he living 2 lives? Is he reincarnated? Is he in another world when he dreams? I want to see more of it, but right now I don`t get it.

Bryce Olejniczak April 18th, 2007 10:26 AM

Do you have a trailer for it?

Marlon Torres April 18th, 2007 10:54 AM

Not at the moment Bryce.

Tyson Perkins April 19th, 2007 05:17 AM

I agree - the story is quite fragmented in the excerpt which you showed to us.

Bogdan Tyburczy April 19th, 2007 04:07 PM

Marlon,

My 2 cents. I think you should focus more on one thread of the story in opening minutes and slowly unveil wider view. That would help to lead viewers in the direction you intended. In this version it's kinda confusing, even though I feel your film could be interesting.

Thanks for posting another piece for us. Good Luck!

Jerrod Cordell April 19th, 2007 09:52 PM

Beautiful yet again. You definitely take this camera to a new level. How much more of the movie do you have to do?

Marlon Torres April 20th, 2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrod Cordell (Post 663619)
Beautiful yet again. You definitely take this camera to a new level. How much more of the movie do you have to do?

I just finished it. I'm thinking about putting it on indieflix.

Marlon Torres April 20th, 2007 09:29 PM

Movies done! Send me a PM if you want a copy and so you can throw a few bucks my way :)

Glenn Thomas April 26th, 2007 01:46 AM

Impressive! Just curious, does it follow on from the end of the first film where he got to the beach?

Marlon Torres April 26th, 2007 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Thomas (Post 667691)
Impressive! Just curious, does it follow on from the end of the first film where he got to the beach?

No, it's a spinoff of Junipero, set 100 years before.

John L. Miller May 10th, 2007 10:55 AM

Marlon, I can't quite understand why you would need to change anything in the beginning as some may have suggested. The first 6 minutes of the film are not supposed to tell you the entire story line, but make you want to see the rest. Honestly, I have seen a lot of indie films that had quality actors, great shots, great cameras, great editing, but no story at all. So far, I like what you have. It does make me want to see the rest of it. Since this is the kind of work I do, well I am not sure I call it work, since I do not get paid for it, but I will be very critical here: It is a very good indie film. I am glad you do not spill the beans on the first 6 minutes, else I wouldn't need to see the rest of it. J

Andrew Slankard May 10th, 2007 04:11 PM

I showed the six minute clip to a couple of friends of mine while we were waiting for a project to render and they were blown away. Then they got excited cause I was hoping to have a similar setup soon that we'd be able to use for our short films.

You have a DOF adapter, right? Was it a redrock micro? What software do you use in post production? Oh and did you guys compose the music yourself or did you get licensing to use copyrighted scores? I was just curious cause the overall fit and finish was so great, everything came together amazingly well.

Anyway, it's amazing Marlon, I'm really impressed. I wish I could see the whole thing.

Mike Gorski May 10th, 2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 662369)
Thanks, but I'm more interested in what people thought about the storytelling... did it make you want to watch the rest of the movie?

Yes! Overall the quality was phenomenal. This video has proven to me the true capability of what an A1 can put out with the right person behind the lens. The color correcting was great and the audio was crisp. For the entire video did you do separate audio and overlay it? It seemed like in the office when the women says "come one" it seems kinda off but that could just be an effect of echoness that your going for. Regardless everything was smashing. Thanks for sharing.

Marlon Torres May 10th, 2007 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Slankard (Post 676862)
I showed the six minute clip to a couple of friends of mine while we were waiting for a project to render and they were blown away. Then they got excited cause I was hoping to have a similar setup soon that we'd be able to use for our short films.

You have a DOF adapter, right? Was it a redrock micro? What software do you use in post production? Oh and did you guys compose the music yourself or did you get licensing to use copyrighted scores? I was just curious cause the overall fit and finish was so great, everything came together amazingly well.

Anyway, it's amazing Marlon, I'm really impressed. I wish I could see the whole thing.

Glad you liked it. I used a redrock micro adapter and edited in FCP. A friend scored all the fantasy scenes, I scored all the modern scenes.

Eric T. Johnson May 11th, 2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 662369)
Thanks, but I'm more interested in what people thought about the storytelling... did it make you want to watch the rest of the movie?

Yes. I'm actually pissed at you right now for only giving me 6 minutes.

Marlon Torres May 11th, 2007 01:48 PM

eric, i just posted the whole movie up! enjoy!

Eric T. Johnson May 11th, 2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 677466)
eric, i just posted the whole movie up! enjoy!

Posted where? I tried the main page of the site that was previously linked, but couldn't find anything.

Eric T. Johnson May 11th, 2007 03:03 PM

Duhhh. It took me about 30 seconds before I came to the obvious thought "Maybe he began a new thread". I'll go download it now. Thanks!

Michael Padilla May 16th, 2007 12:44 PM

observations
 
All in all I thougth it was very VERY good.. for a 0 budget indi film.
That said there were some things that just ruined it for me.

1st. bad acting really makes me ill
2nd. some of the composing shots could have been used a bit better.. to avoid poor acting, such as body language, vocal expressions etc..
3rd. the music was a bit too strong in some of the (reality) scenes.. made it feel a bit like a baby enstein flick. Otherwise the music was cool.

Sorry if I'm being harsh.. I still think you did an awesome job as a DP, the overall cinematography is fantastic and you should be very proud.

Again, my criticism is just going from what is already good to something that could be great. Think.. what would (pick your favorate director) do, and how would this scene look/feel if he/she were filming?

Let me know if you need a steadicam op on your next project.. I'd be happy to help :)

Andrew Slankard May 16th, 2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon Torres (Post 677007)
Glad you liked it. I used a redrock micro adapter and edited in FCP. A friend scored all the fantasy scenes, I scored all the modern scenes.

Amazing, man that's just plain awesome. Congratulations on a job well done!

What did you do about the coloring? If you don't mind my asking... :)

Marlon Torres May 16th, 2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Slankard (Post 680808)
Amazing, man that's just plain awesome. Congratulations on a job well done!

What did you do about the coloring? If you don't mind my asking... :)

Just FCP 3-way and the occasionally Color Finesse.


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