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Fernando Kanano April 12th, 2010 03:58 PM

5D Mk II HD to DVD
 
Hi guys.

This may be a foolish question. I need to shoot a video project and I want to shoot it with my brand new 5D Mk II. Since I will be giving my client a standard DVD, I don't know if I should shoot at 30 or 24 fps. If I shoot at 30 fps, I will need to convert to footage to MPEG 2 at 29.97 for DVD. If I shoot at 24 fps, I just need to convert the footage to MPEG 2 at 23.98 fps. How should I shoot the project? And furthermore, how should I convert to DVD? I'm on a Mac, and I will be using FCS II.

Thank you in advance for your comments and suggestions. Cheers.

Jon Fairhurst April 12th, 2010 05:11 PM

If you don't have a proven workflow, I'd recommend shooting in 30p (29.97). It will have more of a video look than a film look, but it will have less risk of looking bad. If you want a film look, can do a 24p test, have enough time to shoot a test, put it on DVD, and it looks good, then shoot 24p.

John Mastrogiacomo April 12th, 2010 07:20 PM

If you don't know what you're doing, use 30p/29.97. They are basically the same if you are recording the sound with the video.

When I shoot 24 fps I do mine own pulldown instead of letting the DVD player do it.

So if you want to shoot 24 fps, shoot and edit at 24 fps and then drop it on a 29.97 timeline - that should add the pulldown.

Fernando Kanano April 12th, 2010 07:36 PM

Thanks for your input guys. I think I will shoot at 30fps. I also want to edit everything in HD and output the final edit in HD. Now, how to down-convert the final HD video to DVD? Do I need to worry about pull-down? If I use Compressor, which I will, do I just select MPEG 2 and let it handle the 30 to 29.97 conversion?

Thanks again.

Jon Fairhurst April 12th, 2010 09:41 PM

The latest firmware (2.0.4) shoots 29.97 rather than 30.00, so you're good to go.

Fernando Kanano April 12th, 2010 10:41 PM

Thanks Jon. I'll try it this way. I appreciate all of your comments.

Cheers

Wayne Avanson April 13th, 2010 01:56 AM

This is something I struggle with too. I just cant seem to get a good result from FCP to a DVD either using Compressor to create the right files (Best quality 90 mins setting) or outputting a hi res file direct from FCP then dropping it either into iDVD or DVD Studio Pro.

so I'm gathering from the above that frame rate has a lot to do with it. would that be right?

I could really benefit from a detailed workflow from 5D2 to DVD using Final Cut Studio on Mac. If anyone had a great workflow that gives good quality (and the time to post), it would be much appreciated

Thanks!

Olivier Depaep April 13th, 2010 02:53 AM

Have you tried any of the presets from Cram CompressorPack?

Wayne Avanson April 13th, 2010 03:11 AM

No never even heard of it…
Where do I track that down Olivier?

Olivier Depaep April 13th, 2010 03:26 AM

here's a link to the site : CRAMCompressor

Wayne Avanson April 13th, 2010 05:32 AM

Thanks Olivier, got it, will have a play with that later today.

Peter Berg April 13th, 2010 08:49 AM

Wayne - let's know how it looks, and anyone else - please share your workflow from FCPro to DVD. (or maybe there's been some previous posts?) Greatly appreciated :)
peter berg

Fernando Kanano April 13th, 2010 10:13 AM

I second that, Peter. It would be nice if someone can point us to a good HD to DVD guide, or if someone would share their experiences.
The CRAM Compressor seems like a good option, so thanks for pointing it out. However, I feel it's important to know what I'm doing exactly when converting.

Thanks for your input, guys.

Wayne Avanson April 13th, 2010 01:32 PM

Yes, I have used the CRAM DVD set-ups today and got mixed results. Better than Apple's presets, but still not acceptable. Hmm…

First problem for me is that they are all NTSC which means making a copy then changing the format to PAL. So not being an expert in these things, I don't actually know if that's messing up their preset and that's why I'm getting ropey results.

On the plus side, I notice a lot of the blocky artifacts are gone, on the downside, everything seems really soft and the slow pans and tracks jerk like crazy.

double hmmm…

Ben Denham April 14th, 2010 06:12 PM

Here's a thread

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/high-def...n-quality.html

my HD to DVD work-flow is on page 7


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