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A.J. Aguirre January 19th, 2010 03:53 PM

7D killed the A1... for me
 
Well, I bought my 7D thinking it would only be used along side my A1 and never as my only camera, but after getting it, I never picked up the A1 again. So i sold it and bought more lenses.

This was the big question for me when i was first buying it (to keep the A1 or sell it) and I have now 100% answered that question.
This video was the first thing I made with my 7D. 90-95% of the shots were shot with the 7D, the other 5% was from the A1 before I got the 7D

So here is my line of work + the Canon 7D

Liam Hall January 19th, 2010 04:17 PM

Good job Chris. It's no brainer really, as you so ably demonstrated.

A.J. Aguirre January 19th, 2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam Hall (Post 1474517)
Good job Chris. It's no brainer really, as you so ably demonstrated.

It really is a no brainer, but so many people told me to KEEP the A1 and now I want anyone in the same boat that I was in to know that everything and more is possible with the 7D, granted you know how to operate the camera well. I should have sold the A1 from the get-go!

Tim Kay January 19th, 2010 05:19 PM

Enjoy - this camera is truly revolutionary. But it also comes with some big limitations. As long as those don't interfere with your work...then have fun shooting away :)

A.J. Aguirre January 19th, 2010 05:33 PM

Very well put, Someone just needs to make a sticky thread that gets straight to the point with the hard fact limitations.

Galen Rath January 19th, 2010 07:23 PM

Pro's & Con's of switching to SLRs for wedding video.
 
There is this thread in the wedding/events forum. Maybe not in this thread but in another thread one DSLR'er had a customer complain because things were "out of focus"--sort of funny--which points out that what pro's think is great may not be viewed as great by the customer who pays the bills. As for dumping the A1, from what I've read also, you probably have to dump the A1 because you brain will be overloaded operating the DSLR. In any case,I wouldn't mind having one!

Kevin Shaw January 19th, 2010 08:36 PM

What sorts of stabilizers or other support gear did you use for the shots in this clip?

A.J. Aguirre January 19th, 2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Galen Rath (Post 1474594)
There is this thread in the wedding/events forum. Maybe not in this thread but in another thread one DSLR'er had a customer complain because things were "out of focus"--sort of funny--which points out that what pro's think is great may not be viewed as great by the customer who pays the bills. As for dumping the A1, from what I've read also, you probably have to dump the A1 because you brain will be overloaded operating the DSLR. In any case,I wouldn't mind having one!

haha that pretty much made my day, thats funny yet so true, but ehhhh id have to respectfully disagree on the overloaded brain part

Jon Fairhurst January 20th, 2010 12:17 PM

It really comes down to the documentary/realistic look vs. the artistic/romantic look. If the customer is a hard-headed type, they might just want to document the event, showing every last boring moment in fine focus. If the customer is soft-hearted, they might prefer the romantic experience.

To me, it makes sense to be able to deliver either look. Just show both styles to the customer and let them choose. If they can't decide, do both and charge double!

Bruce S. Yarock January 20th, 2010 01:08 PM

I love the look of my 7d ( as well as my letus extreme) and what it can do. But there's no way I would sell my A1 or my h1, until Canon comes out with a new rig. Like John said, different customers/ jobs demand different approaches. I did a low budget commercial shoot yesterday with several locations, testimonials, set ups and challenging audio. I used the XLH1 with the wa hd lens, a wireless lav, couple of lights, and got evrything done quickly- no fuss, no muss. Would i have gotten a nicer look with my Letus extreme, or 7d? Definately. Did I have the time to use a seperate audio recorder , and deal with the other ergonomic issues? No way.
I also do some multicamera event shoots, and the 7d wouldn't work in those situations.

I am trying to refine my 7d set up, and make it more usable in the field or at a wedding. i recently got the Genus rail system, and am using my multirig pro as a shoulder/pod mount. I oredered a rode videomic and will try using it with my Edirol r-09, once I figure out how to attach it toi the shoulder rig.

Bruce yarock

A.J. Aguirre January 20th, 2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw (Post 1474617)
What sorts of stabilizers or other support gear did you use for the shots in this clip?

all 100% handheld, except for the obvious dolly track shots, those were shot with a dolly I made myself

Sylus Harrington January 21st, 2010 01:30 AM

Sweeeet film! Have to ask what is that 4-wheeler he is riding? Looks like a golf cart on steroids!

I'll definitely hold on to the A1s even though it has not seen the light of day in awhile. There are many areas the A1s will excel whereas the 7d may be more of a hinder. Seems like different tools for different jobs. Was filming in a recording studio last week and the 7d dominated in low light performance with L primes. If only the 7d had better audio capabilities.

A.J. Aguirre January 21st, 2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sylus Harrington (Post 1475136)
Sweeeet film! Have to ask what is that 4-wheeler he is riding? Looks like a golf cart on steroids!

I'll definitely hold on to the A1s even though it has not seen the light of day in awhile. There are many areas the A1s will excel whereas the 7d may be more of a hinder. Seems like different tools for different jobs. Was filming in a recording studio last week and the 7d dominated in low light performance with L primes. If only the 7d had better audio capabilities.

Its a kawasaki Terex, and the time lapse part they put much better suspension on it so they could do all that sweet stuff!

and yes yes, everyone does definitely have there reasons to keep the A1, and you definitely do! im just hoping anyone who will be doing stuff like mine can realize what the possibilities are with this amazing piece of a camera, it truelly is a game changing camera, atleast the way I see it, It may not be the god of film right now but its definitely a strong start to a promising future

Bill Binder January 22nd, 2010 10:49 AM

I love it, god these cams produce such incredible images.

I do wonder about something though. I feel like I see some stuttering in there, anyone else see that? I can see it pretty clearly in the intro sequence? Maybe it's Vimeo?

A.J. Aguirre January 22nd, 2010 10:57 AM

yea man, im pretty sure thats just vimeo, because I would have noticed it when I was editing it and it was all smooth for sure


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