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Wolfgang Winne March 2nd, 2014 02:03 PM

BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 

No Preamp, no battery. Only "PlugIn Power" from Pocket Camera.

Andrew Smith March 3rd, 2014 03:10 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
It's quite a nice video, but I didn't see the microphone anywhere in it. :-P

(sounds great through my Event 20/20 monitoring speakers)

Andrew

Wolfgang Winne March 3rd, 2014 03:28 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/ohr01.jpg

1x Headphones, 1x Microphone

http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/ohr02.jpg

Prototype Mic... all sounds with pocket "100%" Level.

Mic (Version 1.0):
- Non-directional Stereo
- 10-18.000 Hz
- S/N Ratio 82 dB (1 kHz)
- max. Sound Level 120 dB S.P.L.
- Sensitivity -30 dB (1 kHz)
- 990 µA Current Consumption (9V - ab 2V)
- Impedance ca. 3 kOhm
- Windshield

Stereo Headphones:
- Perfectly closed System for Sound record
- System 40mm, Dynamic
- Frequency Range 10- 20.000Hz
- Impedance 32 Ohm
- max. Input power 500mW
- Sensitivity 105 db / 1 mW

Andrew Smith March 3rd, 2014 07:23 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Interesting!

Just a thought: if the operator sneezes while recording .... it's going to be in stereo? :-)

Andrew

Wolfgang Winne March 3rd, 2014 07:32 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
yes ;-)

http://www.hzandbits.com/wp-content/...rman-1917a.jpg

Tim Lewis March 3rd, 2014 09:46 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
The Mouseketeers!!!

Wolfgang Winne March 3rd, 2014 09:58 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
The next prototype ;-)

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/C...201921%20a.jpg

Above: A two-horn system at Bolling Field, USA, in 1921. Acoustic radar.....

Alastair Traill March 4th, 2014 05:55 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Hi Wolfgang,

I am a bit puzzled by your prototype pocket camera powered microphone as I did not think there was any power available from the BMPCC.

However I am impressed with the amount of detail and the shades of colour in your shots.

Were you using ProRes HQ or DNG and also what lens were you using?

Wolfgang Winne March 4th, 2014 09:45 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
The BMPCC has 2.47 V PlugIn Power, no problem...

demo filmed in Prores "Film", 24 fps, 800ASA, Shutter Angle180, (100 Euro Lens) Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F1:3,5-5,6 - sharpness + color in Premiere Pro CS6.

Wolfgang Winne March 4th, 2014 10:12 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/b13.jpg

Prototype: Today testing the ultmativ windshield...

http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/wind.mp3 (windmachine with 3 m/s)

Left Channel with new windshield, right channel only pop-filter.


http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/b14.jpg

Alastair Traill March 5th, 2014 01:33 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Thanks Wolfgang,

Interesting, I have tested the same lens but was very disappointed with its sharpness and I returned it to my supplier. At that stage I did not add any sharpening which I am now trying with other lenses.

Wolfgang Winne March 5th, 2014 02:25 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
O.K. Metabones speedbooster with Nikon Lens are sharper....

here my Olympus digital M.ZUIKO 14-42mm 1:3.5 with BMPCC

http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/pocket_2Kchart02.jpg

pure sharpness with BMPCC/Speedbooster/Nikon 60mm

http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/pocket_2Kchart.jpg

Alastair Traill March 6th, 2014 12:11 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Hi and thanks again Wolfgang,

More contrast and a bit more definition with the Nikon, is it the 60mm Micro Nikkor? What should I think about the colour patterns?

Dylan Tobias March 6th, 2014 07:30 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
I don't quite understand this topic, is it because you are going to try to sell the mic setup and are keeping what it all is a secret for now?

Anyways the sound sounds amazing to me so if you will ever share what it is and how to set it up please tell me as I would like to see how much all the pieces cost and if it is practical to build one myself, whatever it is that is.

Alastair Traill March 7th, 2014 12:37 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Dylan,
I am guilty of taking this thread off topic but I have also wondered about its original purpose. In the absence of any other information it looks as though the headphone diaphragms are being used as microphones with their outputs being fed into the BMPCC mic input. This would explain the placement of the wind protection fur patches but not the power consumption.

Wolfgang Winne March 7th, 2014 02:38 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Sorry, my english is very bad.....

I developed this microphone for my pocket. in Germany there are a very large forum page to: slashCAM Forum :: Thema - Ultra Kompaktes externes Mikro für Pocket Kamera! MicW?

at the moment, it is still a prototype. I am the developer of the "Ohrwurm" microphone, this is my second development. OHRWURM AUDIO

It is awesome for the little pocket, it is a headset which works for the sound control, at the same time the sound over the outer surfaces of the headphones is recorded.
a few parts are a problem, they come from the military area. I only get this in a couple of weeks in larger quantities. the price for this mikrofon (Pocket, DSLR, SD-Recorder...) is ca. 160 euros - handmade ;-)

Dylan Tobias March 18th, 2014 04:50 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Hi wolfgang, I don't understand anything whatsoever about it but I can say the sound off your demo video is amazing so if you finish something that you sell you can prv message me as long as I don't have to hack anything to make it work with the bmpcc

Wolfgang Winne March 19th, 2014 03:14 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
At the time my microphone in Europe is torn from my hands. I only have today 5 pieces to sell (the next in 4-6 Weeks). There are problems with the delivery of some special parts.

Paypalbutton: OHRWURM AUDIO SHOP (germansite)

http://www.fxcinema.de/temp/kopfh01.jpg

Wolfgang Winne September 14th, 2014 02:09 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
New Ohrwurm 3 stereo microphone test. Ultra Low Noise binaural mic for BMPCC......


Andrew Smith September 14th, 2014 04:30 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
So, which parts are from the military? Anything exciting? :-P

Andrew

Wolfgang Winne September 14th, 2014 10:58 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
The transducers are sensors for tracking torpedoes.

Andrew Smith September 14th, 2014 11:34 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
I must say, you've done an excellent job of eliminating that annoying 'ping' sound. :-D

LOL!

Andrew

Wolfgang Winne September 15th, 2014 01:21 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
I just do not want yet to mount on my small pocket more devices. Small, lightweight and agile like a Super 8 camera. ;-)

http://www.fxsupport.eu/temp/pocket_griff02.jpg

Wolfgang Winne October 22nd, 2014 10:17 AM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
new demo from the customers.


Wolfgang Winne October 25th, 2014 02:17 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 

Andrew Smith October 25th, 2014 09:19 PM

Re: BMPCC - Microphone Prototype
 
Nice touches there.

Andrew


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