View Full Version : 24f support in Premiere Pro cs3?


Marty Hudzik
July 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Since Adobe had released and update to Premiere Pro 2.0 adding support for 24f Canon modes I guess I just assumed that they would have this built into Cs3....but I do not see it as an option. Anyone?

I generally use Cineform but on some projects I like to edit in Native HDV and 24f support is a must. Can I use the preset for PPro 2.0? Or do I create a new one?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


Thanks

Marty Hudzik
July 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM
upon checking further I cannot even create a custom preset. HDV 1080i seems to be locked at either 29.97 or 25fps. Can't even get a 24 or 23.97 option.

Bummer.

Carlos Rodriguez
July 29th, 2007, 01:22 AM
I've got the same issue with 720p24 footage from my hd110 in cs3. I figured this preset would have been included in cs3. I'm wondering if the preset plugin for prohd presets for ppro 2.0 will work with cs3.

What's going on Adobe?

Carlos Rodriguez
July 29th, 2007, 01:39 AM
OK I tested the old presets for ppro 2.0 in cs3 and cs3 recognizes them when I create a new project. use this link to download the presets for your canon hdv cam.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=98&platform=Windows

Carlos Rodriguez
July 29th, 2007, 01:43 AM
just for info I'm having audio synch issues in my timeline. there's a good maybe 5 second delay.

Brian Spatz
July 30th, 2007, 06:27 PM
just for info I'm having audio synch issues in my timeline. there's a good maybe 5 second delay.


Would you recommend purchasing Premiere Pro 2.0 (as upposed to CS3) and wait to upgrade until this is all sorted out?

Carlos Rodriguez
July 31st, 2007, 03:02 PM
I've figured out a decent solution that works.

I take my 24p hdv video into a 30p timeline. I unlink audio and video. slow video down to 80% and leave audio alone. It looks just like 24p should. after all my edits are done, I export as a 24p video and it looks just like normal.

note. if you have a talking head on the picture, be sure to drop your entire clip on the timeline before doing any edits or adjustments. it will save you a re-aligning headache.

lets hope adobe throws in some help pretty soon.


other option is stick with the working 2.0

Brian Spatz
August 1st, 2007, 03:32 PM
lets hope adobe throws in some help pretty soon.


other option is stick with the working 2.0


And 2.0 supports 24f on the MAC?

Carlos Rodriguez
August 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM
as far as I know, PPro CS3 is the only product that works on Apple OS

Floris van Eck
August 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM
When you can, just get Cineform. I really like it. Although I think Adobe should include Canon 24F support. Especially since they had it in CS2, and now dropped it in CS3. That's one thing I really hate about Adobe... not customer-orientated. They just do as they like without caring about their customers. Same with Avid. They have become colossi that forget to listen to their customers.

Sony Vegas is a program that I like much better in that regard. But I have a love/hate relationship with the interface. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. As Avid, Apple and Adobe all have a similar interface... I prefer to use one of those. It's really hard to use Vegas if other people in a project are working on Avid/Adobe/Apple. Switching between the other three is somewhat less difficult.

Anyway, Adobe should solve this. Totally unacceptable.

Kyle Brady
August 4th, 2007, 10:00 AM
What a bummer! I was all ready to get PP3 and was hoping for great things. I really like the interoperability with other programs in the suite. But incompatibility with 24F is a deal breaker. I hope they fix it. I can't believe they wouldn't support it.

Carlos Rodriguez
August 4th, 2007, 11:56 AM
I agree, need 24p/f support? go with cineform.

Greg Rothschild
August 8th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I called customer support about this issue yesterday. I was told that they are indeed working on it- they will eventually issue an update with 24F support. That's the good news. The bad news is there was no date for the release of the update. She said that her best guess was 3 months.

Carlos Rodriguez
August 8th, 2007, 08:17 PM
that's lame. How could they not have this function included in this release, but have it included in their previous? Oh well, for now I'll have to go with my workaround. It works pretty well I suppose.

Carlos Rodriguez
August 8th, 2007, 08:18 PM
btw, thanks Greg, I was getting ready to call, but found myself somewhat impatient.

Michael Oliver Bott
August 9th, 2007, 08:40 AM
The very strange thing is: my version, which was delivered last Friday, has 24f support!

Although there ist no preset for 24 frames I can create a custom preset and choose between 25, 23.976 and 29.97 Frames per second.

I tried one of the 24f m2t's that are floating around and it works perfectly.

Craig Irving
August 9th, 2007, 12:29 PM
I sure hope they'll add support for the V1U's 24P while they're at it.


I tried calling them this afternoon but they couldn't tell me anything.

Carlos Rodriguez
August 9th, 2007, 06:58 PM
I tried that exact same thing, Michael, creating a custom preset, for footage shot on my HD110, but when the footage is captured, the bin reads it as "29.97" and not "23.976, or 24p"

It played back fast video speed with normal audio.

Then I remembered someone saying they matched 30p hdv footage to 24p by just slowing it down to exactly 80%. I unlink video from audio and do so, and it works just fine. Strange.

maybe its just 720p video that it screws up on.