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Chris Harris
November 30th, 2007, 02:25 PM
By the way, what Compressor presets are you guys using for doing an H.264 HD-DVD?

Justin Ferar
November 30th, 2007, 03:15 PM
For 720p60 I use...

15 average
25 max
multi pass

I cannot see any visual difference between the source and the H.264 on a professional broadcast monitor.

Gary Williams
December 1st, 2007, 11:04 AM
For 720p60 I use...

15 average
25 max
multi pass

I cannot see any visual difference between the source and the H.264 on a professional broadcast monitor.

I use the standard preset set in compressor for (H.264 60 minutes) perhapes I should change the settings?

Gary Williams
December 3rd, 2007, 08:39 AM
One last thing...

Compressing a reference file as opposed to a self contained file can introduce some voodoo. I seem to recall that making the change made things easier and faster. I would try a short test- maybe 30 seconds and see if that plays smoothly.

I used to use reference files for everything but then these voodoo things crept in. Since then I only use self contained.

Hope this helps.


Justin have you had a chance to try doing more than 20 minutes with the H.264 to see if it plays OK if so I would like to hear how it went. I am going to try to use a self contained file tomarrow and see if it improves playback when I finish my project I have been working all week and have not had a chance to give this a try.

Justin Ferar
December 3rd, 2007, 12:19 PM
No chance yet,

Got deadlines!

Gary Williams
December 4th, 2007, 11:34 PM
No chance yet,

Got deadlines!

Justin I noticed in your previous post your working with 60p footage I think this is my problem my footage is 30p I dont think this works well with the H.264 codet.

Joseph Hutson
December 8th, 2007, 02:01 AM
I do not have an HD-DVD player, with an HDTV, so I have not personally experienced the HD viewing experience except with Apple's DVD Player(it looks fabulous on my MacBook Pro.

So with that said, I am wanting to advertise on my website, that I may distribute weddings or any other events in HD through HD-DVD's. The only thing that I am afraid is that it will work for some players, but not others.

I have heard of people trying to burn Blu-Ray discs, and failing to playback with certain players.

Do the HD DVD's have the same problem.

If the HD DVD's do not have that problem, I may buy 30 GB HD-DVD's, and give the whole pitch on my website that I may not only shoot, but distribute in HD.

Hugh Walton
December 8th, 2007, 08:42 AM
I do not have an HD-DVD player, with an HDTV, so I have not personally experienced the HD viewing experience except with Apple's DVD Player(it looks fabulous on my MacBook Pro.

So with that said, I am wanting to advertise on my website, that I may distribute weddings or any other events in HD through HD-DVD's. The only thing that I am afraid is that it will work for some players, but not others.

I have heard of people trying to burn Blu-Ray discs, and failing to playback with certain players.

Do the HD DVD's have the same problem.

If the HD DVD's do not have that problem, I may buy 30 GB HD-DVD's, and give the whole pitch on my website that I may not only shoot, but distribute in HD.


I think that chances are good that your discs will play considering that there are only a few brands and models of HD-DVD players out there, but due to the newness of the format it may be a little tricky. I have found playback inconsistencies between the Toshiba A-20 and A30 that firmware updates have helped, but not completely eliminated. I think that it will always be difficult to distribute in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray due to the fact that the players are only as reliable as there most recent firmware update. I am sure that most people fall behind on the updates and this could result in trouble for you. I guess the only way to make sure your discs will be compatible is to buy all of the HD-DVD players out there and literally test your HD-DVDs on them, but this probably is not realistic.

Hope this helps,
Hugh

Joseph Hutson
December 8th, 2007, 02:26 PM
So how do the big producers make HD DVD's so they will play in every player?

Chris Harris
December 8th, 2007, 10:04 PM
So how do the big producers make HD DVD's so they will play in every player?

It's the same as regular DVDs. Professionally pressed DVDs are vastly more compatible than burned DVDs, and this goes for CDs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, and Blu-Ray Discs.

Joseph Hutson
December 8th, 2007, 11:01 PM
So how do we get a professional presser? LOL!

Gary Williams
December 9th, 2007, 10:42 AM
You have a professional company with the gear make your mass copies.

Jeff Krepner
January 3rd, 2008, 01:02 PM
On that same concept, will a regular DVD duplication house be able to duplicate a DVD-5 with HD-DVD content? It seems like they should. What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks.
Jeff

Chris Harris
January 3rd, 2008, 05:03 PM
On that same concept, will a regular DVD duplication house be able to duplicate a DVD-5 with HD-DVD content? It seems like they should. What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks.
Jeff

I don't see why not, but then again, I don't know anything about the DVD duplication process. I'd make SURE though, before I put the money down to have this done, that it worked in most (if not all, because there aren't that many) standalone HD-DVD players.

Chuck Wall
January 4th, 2008, 03:40 PM
On that same concept, will a regular DVD duplication house be able to duplicate a DVD-5 with HD-DVD content? It seems like they should. What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks.
Jeff

You should have no problem as it is still a dvd-r that happens to have data encoded for hd-dvd.

Chuck

Max Bettelle
January 28th, 2008, 12:22 PM
DVD SP 4 User Manual (Page 22):

HD Video Assets
There are a variety of sources for HD video assets to use in your HD projects, with the most common being DVCPRO HD and HDV camcorders.
• With DVCPRO HD, once you have finished editing the video, the result will need to be encoded to the HD MPEG-2 or H.264 video format.
• With HDV, which is already compliant MPEG-2 HD video, you can edit the video in Final Cut Pro 5 and import the result directly in your HD projects.

I can't believe it myself, but in retrospect it makes sense. My Canon XH-A1 records to Mini-DV tape using HD MPEG-2 and DVD SP 4.1.2 requires HD MPEG-2 or H-264 files to burn HD-DVDs. What this means is that there is no need to encode using compressor, and that the footage captured from my camera will be identical to the footage displayed on the HD-DVD. The encoding happens only once in camera and thats it. No transcoding of any kind is needed.

Hugh

What about if i want to burn a blu ray disc? I cannot see any setting for it on the latest DVD STUDIO PRO.... thanks