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Ray Bell
May 1st, 2007, 08:20 PM
Cineform just put up the new version of Aspect ... its ready for downloading
and seems to work well... they also added MOV... and other goodies

David Newman
May 1st, 2007, 09:26 PM
Thanks Ray,
I normally post the info on the new builds, but we've been completing so many I forgot. There are new revisions of everything.

Aspect v5.0
NEO HDV/HD/2K v3.0
Prospect HD/2K/2K-ingest v3.0

We till have lot of website work to complete to explain all the new goodies and why everyone should upgrade. :)

Ian Savage
May 2nd, 2007, 09:05 AM
Hi David

Can I use v5.0 with PP 1.5.1 ?

Thanks
Ian

David Newman
May 2nd, 2007, 09:43 AM
Yes, it will work fine with Premiere Pro 1.5.1, 2.0 and CS3. Download the trial and see for yourself.

Ian Savage
May 2nd, 2007, 09:54 AM
Thanks David

I'm a fully paid up Aspect user, just wanted to check I could use the latest :-)


Actually I'm having a problem at the moment converting some 1080i HDV CFHD files into PAL quicktime files through PP (Using H264), the shorter files (15mins) work fine but the 60min files are failing at the mov compiling stage, I'm just trying a 43min file to see what happens.

Thanks
Ian

David Newman
May 2nd, 2007, 10:18 AM
Subject for another thread, Premiere's QuickTime export problems, we don't think it is CineForm related.

Regarding the new product releases. There is will be a 15-day trail as always, which I recommend you use. For upgrade pricing please read http://www.cineform.com/SpecialPricing.htm

Douglas Turner
May 2nd, 2007, 10:56 PM
I'm a fully paid-up v4 devotee - and keen to try v5, but less keen to spend another $100.

Assuming I have to uninstall v4 and install the v5, what will happen after the 15 day trial? I won't be using HDLink etc, just importing, editing and exporting to CFHD avi's.

OK, so I could uninstall v5 and re-install v4 with my Key, but I'm wondering whether that's necessary?

David Newman
May 2nd, 2007, 11:09 PM
Uninstalling v4 will not remove its license key. You have safely experiment with v5.

Douglas Turner
May 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM
Cool - will do...

I'm still getting problems with PPRO3 and Aspect v4 - so will try v5.

I'm editing a feature in time for a test screening at the end of May, so unfort don't have much time to report issues at the moment... I just work-around them.

Wayne Johnson
May 3rd, 2007, 05:46 AM
Does v5 mean Aspect HD v4 will never be supported under Vista?

David Newman
May 3rd, 2007, 07:49 AM
Not necessarily, if the updates can be easy retrofitted we will do that.

Wayne Johnson
May 3rd, 2007, 09:47 AM
Not necessarily, if the updates can be easy retrofitted we will do that.

Good, because I don't think I need any of the v5 features. Unless..."Additional visual fidelity upgrades in the CineForm Intermediate codec" are noticeably better to the average eye?

Steven White
May 3rd, 2007, 05:57 PM
Out of curiosity, does the $99 to upgrade to Aspect 5 also apply to Aspect 3.2 owners?

-Steve

David Newman
May 3rd, 2007, 06:20 PM
Yes, from any version of Aspect HD it is $99. Also remember you can directly upgrade Aspect HD to the latest Prospect HD for additional $301.

John McGinley
May 3rd, 2007, 06:30 PM
I upgraded my aspect HD to prospect HD yesterday, next stop Intensity Pro card.... is that full raster HD I see recording on my computer? Oh, yes it is. Should make pulling green screen much better.

David Newman
May 3rd, 2007, 06:55 PM
Yes, thank you John. There have already been a bunch Aspect HD users to join you in Prospect HD in the last couple of days. We hope for many more.

Marc Colemont
May 4th, 2007, 08:54 AM
Hi David,
Is there an update log available between the V4 and V5?
I don't see any on your website, unless I overlooked a link?

David Newman
May 4th, 2007, 09:31 AM
With the site updates that may have beeen missed.

Keying elements :
1) New codec for even higher quality (using the Prospect core.)
2) HDSDI/HMDI capture support with HDLink using a range of AJA or Blackmagic cards.
3) Quicktime support for import and exports.
... plus more..

Marc Colemont
May 4th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Thanks David for the fast respons as always.

Douglas Turner
May 4th, 2007, 01:10 PM
So looking at those v4 to v5 updates, I won't see any quality improvements for my current project, where all the footage is already captured?

David Newman
May 4th, 2007, 01:29 PM
Douglas,

The codec upgrades are primarily encoder changes, so any new encodings will benefit. This includes CineForm exports from Premiere/AE of your existing projects.

Douglas Turner
May 4th, 2007, 05:09 PM
OK, thanks. We have a test screening at the start of June, so I'll delay trying v5 until then...

Marc Colemont
May 10th, 2007, 02:24 AM
Hi David,
I installed the AspectHD V5 trial, and imported some MOV trailer clips I downloaded from the Quicktime Pro website to have good MOV footage to convert as a test. (shrek3 trailer 720P)
But when I start the conversion the debugging displays an error on the MOV-file were the codec is not supported.
The Move-file plays fine on my laptop, and Premiere Pro 2.0 can read and convert it to Cineform. Do I need to install something extra from Quicktime? I have the Pro 7 installed.

David Newman
May 10th, 2007, 09:20 AM
Marc,

Some QuickTime files will not convert with HDLink as the decoder is not available in DirectShow, even if it is available to QuickTime, many codecs are available to both. If you can play the MOV in MediaPlayer when it should convert. We do plan to add full QuickTime based conversion support to HDLink to address this, although it is a low priority as there are work-arounds like you have found with Premiere.

Marc Colemont
May 16th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Thanks for the info David.
Is there a list of Quicktime codecs you currently support? Because I have a few clients in the Non-video business who needs to convert many quicktime media into AVI for our media servers. Adobe premiere and Procoder have too many settings for them. I would like to recommend to buy Neo HDV instead when it works with all kinds of Quicktime codecs.

David Newman
May 16th, 2007, 09:19 AM
Once we complete the QT interface to HDLink we will support the decoding and conversion too CineForm for anything QuickTime can handle. Today the QuickTime support is about using CineForm compression with QuickTime, which widens our compatibility greatly.