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Wolfgang Winne
April 9th, 2007, 04:39 AM
Here my new Presets with DSC Chart Calibration:

German: http://www.fxsupport.de/20.html

Babelfish translater: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.fxsupport.de%2f20.html

Paul Lashmana
April 9th, 2007, 04:48 AM
Vielen Dank Wolfgang!
That was a good read. Impressed by the work you put in there.

Wolfgang Winne
April 9th, 2007, 08:19 AM
Bitte schön ;-)

Cesar Ruiz
April 9th, 2007, 08:53 AM
Wolfgang,

Thank you for all that hard work! A few questions. I notice you like to use NR1 set to Low even at -3db. On my cam I see notable ghosting even at NR1 set to Low. Is my camera not working properly?

Have you noticed any ghosting?

Thanks,
Cesar

Bill Busby
April 9th, 2007, 09:18 AM
There's no problem with your camera. I think any of the NR1's should at the very most be used for static shots if at all.

Bill

Wolfgang Winne
April 9th, 2007, 10:48 AM
I made no moved shots thereby (Colorchart+static szene). I will test more exactly tomorrow.

Khoi Pham
April 9th, 2007, 11:16 AM
Wolfgang,

Thank you for all that hard work! A few questions. I notice you like to use NR1 set to Low even at -3db. On my cam I see notable ghosting even at NR1 set to Low. Is my camera not working properly?

Have you noticed any ghosting?

Thanks,
Cesar

NR1 should not be use for moving video especially with panning, if the shot is lock down and the subject moves slow then it is acceptable at level 1.

Wolfgang Winne
April 9th, 2007, 02:19 PM
The Preset "-3dB" is now with NR1=0......

;-)

Michael Mann
April 10th, 2007, 06:19 AM
Wolfgang, I tried your -3db preset yesterday in bright sunlight and the resulting takes look very convincing on my Computer LCD! Thank you!
My impression is that the image has slightly too much green though. So how do I reduce green without destroying your overall color composition of the preset? Thanks in advance, Michael Mann

Wolfgang Winne
April 10th, 2007, 08:36 AM
<My impression is that the image has slightly too much green though.>

Hmmmmm......... it's your LCD? The GGN from 0 to -3 is this better?

Eric Weiss
April 10th, 2007, 09:22 AM
That's a great preset! I've named it "Wolfgang" for Props. :)

Michael Mann
April 10th, 2007, 10:34 AM
Wolfgang, I guess the slightly greenish look really was my Eizo-LCD since I watched the clips in Text-mode. Watching them in Movie-mode instead the color balance looks very, very good. In fact the best I've seen so far.

There are three personal modifications I'd probably like to do (-3db preset):
Changing gamma from NORMAL to CINE 1, knee from AUTO to LOW (possibly safer!) and black from PRESS to MIDDLE. Doing so doesn't effect your color balance composition, right?

In addition: Can you please explain your settings DHV5 and COR-2 ?

Thanks again.

Alex Leith
April 11th, 2007, 02:32 AM
Thanks Wolfgang. Great work and a nice looking preset!

Michael Mann
April 11th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Alex, since you tested Wolfgangs preset (and find it convincing), I'd be interested to know what preset you have been using so far?

Alex Leith
April 11th, 2007, 11:02 AM
I had been using my own, which simply boosted the colour gain to 30, pulled the setup down and pushed the pedestal up a bit.

Didn't really like the overall balance of colours. Then I was testing out Steven Dempsey's new VIVID preset, which looks great, but boosts the red a touch. It looks great with white skintones - adds a really nice glow.

Wolfgang's preset seems to be a bit truer to nature colours. I'm testing out both of them at the moment.

I'd also like to know the theory behind DHV5 and COR-2.

Cesar Ruiz
April 11th, 2007, 12:55 PM
I'd like to know that too.

For starters, Wolfgang mentions on his website that he will still keep an NR1-Low version for more static images so that he can have smoother images even at -3db.

Well don't negative core values increase the grain in pictures?

I wish Canon had more descriptive explanations of these settings. The manual and the online descriptions keep making me think that something is missing and my ignorance continues.

Jan Luethje
April 12th, 2007, 05:38 AM
Most of my Jobs do require SD, therefore my question, also regarding other settings available here: Are they 'only' designed for HDV or also usable for SD without further tweaking?