View Full Version : Don't forget about the HV10 :(
Joe Busch March 28th, 2007, 06:57 PM You can convert 60i to 30p fairly easily and it looks good.
http://www.lousyheros.com/videos/wesleyey.wmv
Little compressed but you can freeze it and see it's progressive... each paintball can be seen individually...
Joe Busch March 28th, 2007, 07:41 PM http://www.lousyheros.com/pics/hv10.jpg quick screenshot...
Bruce Allen March 28th, 2007, 08:21 PM Looks great, Joe! The HV10 is a wonderful camera, I am sure it won't be forgotten about as long as people keep posting good things shot with it!
Bruce
Joe Busch March 28th, 2007, 09:06 PM Haha I will probably be upgrading pretty soon, I need more manual options...
Been lookin at the HDR-FX7 but we'll see...
Robert Ducon March 28th, 2007, 11:43 PM Hey, I didn't expect that at all - I've shot a lot of Sony Z1U footage, and done a lot of i to P conversion, and it never looked like that. How interesting.
FX7? But why! You already have an amazing camera as you just pointed out ;)
BTW, ever seen the Blackcell paintball HD videos? Incredible.
Joe Busch March 29th, 2007, 12:37 AM Hey, I didn't expect that at all - I've shot a lot of Sony Z1U footage, and done a lot of i to P conversion, and it never looked like that. How interesting.
FX7? But why! You already have an amazing camera as you just pointed out ;)
BTW, ever seen the Blackcell paintball HD videos? Incredible.
I have not seen any Blackcell stuff... Hmm I'll look into that...
Yea I was impressed, this is the first time I to P looked good to me... I had a Canon Elura 2 which had progressive Scan (single CCD... fairly old) but it was the last consumer cam to have progressive and interlaced options... (from canon atleast) until the HV20...
I just want more options, better low-light ;) HV10 is way too small... honestly if it was bigger in size, but shot the same, I'd probably keep it, but I want it to have some weight to it...
EDIT: It could be I was running 1/1000 and 1/2000 shutter for most of it...
Joe Busch March 29th, 2007, 12:41 AM Ah Special Ops Paintball
;) I film a slightly different style
I'd like it more if it wasn't as staged and if the running around shots were a bit cleaner
Definitely something else though... they used a lot of compression even in the "HD" versions... but that can be expected, it was streaming
Jacob Carter March 29th, 2007, 08:15 AM You can convert 60i to 30p fairly easily and it looks good.
http://www.lousyheros.com/videos/wesleyey.wmv
Little compressed but you can freeze it and see it's progressive... each paintball can be seen individually...
Very nice camera work. I really liked this clip.
Do you mind me asking what you used to get the video and music to be in sync like that?
Very cool.
Joe Busch March 29th, 2007, 10:14 AM Just playing around with Sony Vegas 7.0 ;)
http://www.lousyheros.com/pics/workflow.jpg
The end of the timeline is 30 minutes...
That green bar in the lower right corner is a full 3-4 minute song...
Mike Horrigan March 29th, 2007, 10:43 AM Nice work!
Looks very nice.
One question, what was with that guy grabbing the other guy and tossing him aside? I've never seen that in paintball, and I've played quite a few times.
Great looking footage.
Cheers,
Mike
Steve Szudzik March 29th, 2007, 11:28 AM Nice work!
Looks very nice.
One question, what was with that guy grabbing the other guy and tossing him aside? I've never seen that in paintball, and I've played quite a few times.
Great looking footage.
Cheers,
Mike
Looked to me like the guy got tagged by a ball while he was refilling and the ref was calling him out of the game but he disagreed with the ruling. Maybe some verbal exchange with the ref.
Another great set of footage there Joe!
Steve
Mike Horrigan March 29th, 2007, 11:32 AM Looked to me like the guy got tagged by a ball while he was refilling and the ref was calling him out of the game but he disagreed with the ruling. Maybe some verbal exchange with the ref.
Another great set of footage there Joe!
Steve
Kind of looked like that to me as well. Still, I'm surprised he actually laid a hand on him.
Looks like the guy in the background has a paintball bounce right off his head at the very end of the clip! Time to turn up the pressure on those guns! ;)
Really great footage!
Thanks for sharing,
Mike
Ken Ross March 29th, 2007, 12:03 PM Haha I will probably be upgrading pretty soon, I need more manual options...
Been lookin at the HDR-FX7 but we'll see...
Joe, I've got the FX7, HV10 and HV20 and to be perfectly honest, I prefer the HD footage from the two Canon cams! If you like the look of the Canons you may find the Sony has too much edge enhancement as a result of in-camera sharpening.
So be careful before buying to be sure the Sony look works for you. Otherwise the FX7 is a fine camera.
Ayman Hussein March 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM i love watching your videos. it motivates me to starting editing video (though i need to buy a new comp. my custom built one will cost around 1k. wont be buying it til end of apr/start of may)
Joe Busch March 29th, 2007, 12:39 PM I'll explain the story, the guy across the field and the guy who throws the other one are brothers... Rocky and Raymond Knuth
Rocky across the field did shoot Ben when he was refilling, but as you can see he checked his hopper and didn't find a hit,
The 2nd brother bunkers Ben but misses... so Ben turns around and shoots him...
Raymond doesn't like that, so instead of saying "get out" he just ... throws him...
Not typically acceptable behavior, but it made for cool footage ;)
And yea, Rocky got a bounce... we're all shooting 300 feet per second (roughly 204mph) but it slows down... you can typically shoot 125-150 feet holding the gun flat, but if you look most of the time we're lobbing them in ;) The field is 180 x 100ft
And I have always thought Canon had better image quality, I was thinking the FX7 because the 3 Cmos Chips... but we'll have to see ;)
Ken Ross March 29th, 2007, 01:13 PM And I have always thought Canon had better image quality, I was thinking the FX7 because the 3 Cmos Chips... but we'll have to see ;)
Joe, I know it sounds strange, but I honestly think the HV20 has a bit more natural color than the FX7. They aren't very much different, but the color on the HV20 just seems a bit more true-to-life. Pretty strange for a single chip, but these CMOS sensors have really changed the 'color landscape'.
Joe Busch March 29th, 2007, 04:03 PM Haha it woudl be nice to have some sample clips w/ the same settings sitting next to eachother ;)
I wouldn't mind getting an HV20 and a buddy who can film and 2 tripods... twice the footage :)
EDIT: If are able to get raw footage of some nice shots/variety of colors and such... I can give you some space on my website to upload them (I have like 200 gigs of space, only using 50ish right now)
Joe Busch March 31st, 2007, 03:28 AM http://www.lousyheros.com/bgpdosmq.wmv - Medium Quality...
10:15 long... :)
Enjoy it, I think most of oyu guys want to see what the camera is capable of... 30p isn't that hard to get..
Joe Busch March 31st, 2007, 08:58 PM http://www.lousyheros.com/bgpdoslq.wmv - Low Quality
http://www.lousyheros.com/bgpdosmq.wmv - Medium Quality
http://www.lousyheros.com/bgpdoshq.wmv - High Quality
http://www.lousyheros.com/bgpdosipod.mp4 - Ipod Format
Played w/ the color saturation... you might like it more...
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