View Full Version : UWOL #2: "Desert Playground" by Marco Wagner
Marco Wagner March 23rd, 2007, 06:08 PM The winters in Phoenix are not much different from the rest of the year. In our first competition EVER we had an overload of ideas and a learning curve of a new HD cam. I wanted to capture things that are not only done year round in (and about) Phoenix, but also activities that you don't think about too much, like hiking, rock climbing, ultralite flying, relaxing.
The waverunner portion was tough, it was 89 degrees out, but the water was 50 degrees! You did NOT want to get wet or fall in, I almost fell in with my new camera as well. We couldn't really get out of town for this contest, so all the footage was shot within 30 minutes of my house or work. I tried to keep it more on the artsy side but with a little sporty flavor. I think my personal favorite cut is the Waverunner rocking by itself in the water in what appears to be a totally unpopulated lake.
Thanks for watching and allowing me to participate. Any criticism is welcome.
Competition Size -428x240 16:9 QT 49.5MB
http://www.uwolchallenge.com/challenge2/MW_UC2_desertplayground.mov
Full Size -720x480 16:9 WMV 66.0MB
http://www.timelake.com/media/DesertPlayground.wmv
Ruth Happel March 23rd, 2007, 08:31 PM This was a great video to show all the opportunities. Looks like you live in a great place for recreation! The opening titles were really nice, too.
I particularly liked the framing of the parent/child with the rocks, really a wonderful image.
Ruth
James Hooey March 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM the good....
Nice shot of the waverunner pushing up a lot of spray! I thought that was the best part.
the not so good....
the timelapse of the sailboat....didn't work for me...it just looked like a sailboat more or less.
the questions...
what tripod do you use? the pans/tilts seem a little shaky.
what was on the rock at one point - a climber? I cannot tell.
Congratulations on a nice video and I wish our winters were like that!!!!
James Hooey
Marco Wagner March 23rd, 2007, 08:45 PM the good....
Nice shot of the waverunner pushing up a lot of spray! I thought that was the best part.
the not so good....
the timelapse of the sailboat....didn't work for me...it just looked like a sailboat more or less.
the questions...
what tripod do you use? the pans/tilts seem a little shaky.
what was on the rock at one point - a climber? I cannot tell.
Congratulations on a nice video and I wish our winters were like that!!!!
James Hooey
Thanks for your input James. That was my wife on the waverunner. I used my old crappy tripod because I didn't want to sink my brand new one into the lake mud. I used a homemade steadycam or handheld on a few shots etc. The good steady shots were with a Smith-Victor Propod III Aluminum 2-Stage Tripod with Pro-3 2-Way Fluid Head. It's me that's shaky, I have a badly herniated disc.
The rock, if red, had a climber on it, as most of the rocks did. In my larger file size (encoded now) you'll see MUCH better.
Did you notice the fish jump next to the sailboat at the end?
Thanks again!
Marco Wagner March 23rd, 2007, 08:53 PM This was a great video to show all the opportunities. Looks like you live in a great place for recreation! The opening titles were really nice, too.
I particularly liked the framing of the parent/child with the rocks, really a wonderful image.
Ruth
Thanks Ruth, that boy and child happened totally by accident, I loved it.
Steven Gotz March 23rd, 2007, 09:33 PM I am broken-hearted. I was sure that shot was magnificent planning. I pointed it out to my wife. On the other hand, being in the right place at the right time takes effort, and let's face it, you got a great shot.
Marco Wagner March 23rd, 2007, 09:40 PM Thanks Steven. I was actually trying to get a static shot to zoom out and pan left. BUT that spot is so popular people kept coming through the "Hole in the Rock" (it's called). I'd had to keep starting over...once the kid and his father came through I thought about its potential.
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Bruce Foreman March 24th, 2007, 12:35 AM You got quite a variety in your video. I actually felt like my face got wet from the spray during your opening sequence.
I also was one going to complement you on the composition of the guy and the kid coming through the "hole in the rock". But I guess having sense enough to use the shot has to count for the same.
Something no one else has commented on yet is the contrast of subject you got in that shot of the ?yucca? cactus on the hill with the pool in the park below.
Glad you didn't wind up "dunking" a camcorder, that would be enough to me this old man cry.
Bruce Foreman
Per Johan Naesje March 24th, 2007, 03:46 AM Marco,
your place is totally different from where I live! Nice to view and something I can dream about when the cold and severe wind howling in my face on a mountain summit.
I'm not fan of using to much zoom and I think you overused it a little to my taste and it was a little yerky in a couple of shots. As mention, the timelaps of the sailboat did not come out well. But I saw that fish leap!
Overall impression, this film maintained my interest all over and I had to view it several times to get all the details. The man and the boy in the cave was astounding, so was the slowmotion of the waverunner. I think you did a great job, your are on my top five list!
Marco Wagner March 24th, 2007, 04:14 PM Thank you for your thoughts Per Johan,
I tried my best to break up the zoom shots with some static ones inbetween, but I can see the overuse. I think I was just trying to give the whole experience too much, lol.
I was so hoping for a child and parent to come walking through that AFTER I got some other shots I wanted, but things just happened right, thank goodness.
What do you think I could have done better on the sailboat? Better backdrop? Tighter shot?
Thanks again Per Johan, and everyone who has commented so far.
Chris Barcellos March 25th, 2007, 12:56 AM Some great scenery shots, in an obvious recreation oriented activities.
Flow of film was not felt a bit disjointed, but that is something we wer all having to deal with in the effort to stay on theme was appreciated.
Mat Thompson March 25th, 2007, 05:40 AM Your jet ski footage was great...loved it! The music was perfect too....it really has a dersert feel, don't really know why but it seems to fit like a glove.
I think you had a few to many big zooms and possible not enough detail shots.
Nice piece and bang on topic :)
Gabriel Yeager March 25th, 2007, 10:59 AM Nice job Marco! I really liked all the rocks, very cool scenery.
That was a risky move taking your camera out on the jetski, I would not do it, lol.
Good music too, nice choice.
Keep on rollin' (film).
~Gabriel
Geir Inge March 25th, 2007, 11:08 AM I enjoyd this video. Very nice done and great scenery.
Marco Wagner March 25th, 2007, 11:16 AM Nice job Marco! I really liked all the rocks, very cool scenery.
That was a risky move taking your camera out on the jetski, I would not do it, lol.
Good music too, nice choice.
Keep on rollin' (film).
~Gabriel
Thanks Gabe, Chris, and Mat!
We almost flipped twice, my friend wasn't used to my waverunner! I had him take it easy though. My BIG issue was lake water on the lens. It would NOT come off! I had to soap them when I got home lol!
Music was from a Time Lake licensed local band "Heroes for Ghosts"
http://myspace.com/heroesforghosts
Marco Wagner March 25th, 2007, 11:17 AM I enjoyd this video. Very nice done and great scenery.
Thank you, we tried our best for the time we had.
Steven Gotz March 25th, 2007, 12:07 PM I just assumed that those shots were taken inside an underwater enclosure. This is, after all, the Under Water Over Land forum, so when I saw a water related shot, I figured the camera was well protected.
I don't know if I am shocked, appalled, or seriously impressed with your bravery.
But, you got the shot, right? That's the important thing!
Marco Wagner March 25th, 2007, 03:33 PM No underwater paq yet, cannot wait to get one of those! It was bravery mixed with determination to get a good shot, even at the cost of soaking my camera.
Kevin Railsback March 25th, 2007, 03:51 PM Marco,
Nice film. Favorite shot was at 1:16. Showing how big the rock formation was by the tiny little person walking on it was awesome. Really shows the scale of it.
You're braver than I am to take a camera out on a lake with no enclosure! :) Shots turned out nice though.
Have to agree about the zooms but other than that a good film!
Marco Wagner March 25th, 2007, 08:12 PM Thanks a bunch Kevin, that is one of my favorite scenes too. Looks like Mars almost.
Dale Guthormsen March 25th, 2007, 10:16 PM Marco,
I watched them all friday night and now finally have some time to respond. I definitely have you in my top four short list!! I grew up in the southwest and very much enjoyed the scenery parts. I had to watch it a couple times!!
Great job.
Marco Wagner March 26th, 2007, 09:54 AM Thanks Dale!
I really tried to capture the spirit of some things you could do in town or just outside of town. Imagine if I would have been able to get out to some of my wonderfully beautiful spots up north!
Trond Saetre March 26th, 2007, 09:58 AM Marco, I enjoyed your video very much.
It was very nice to see the shots taken from the jetski.
The opening sequence was great. I liked it!
Nice scenery too, would be nice to go there someday.
Maybe you could have shortened the long zooms a little bit, but other than that, I think you did great.
Catherine Russell March 26th, 2007, 10:25 AM Hi Marco:
Great film. Cool beginning. I have a taste for special effects and yours were great. I also thought some transitions were well done, like the one between the waverunner and the airplane... it made it look like the plane was coming out of the water. Nice! I also liked the sillouette of the little boy and father in the rocks.
Thanks for a great watch.
Cat Russell
Spike Productions
Marco Wagner March 26th, 2007, 10:56 AM Thanks so much Cat!
I love to experiment with effects and transitions, but try not to go overboard (no pun intended). The jetski spray and plane transition is something I was hoping someone would appreciate, :-)
Marco Wagner March 26th, 2007, 12:54 PM Marco, I enjoyed your video very much.
It was very nice to see the shots taken from the jetski.
The opening sequence was great. I liked it!
Nice scenery too, would be nice to go there someday.
Maybe you could have shortened the long zooms a little bit, but other than that, I think you did great.
Thank you Trond,
You'd love it here in Arizona, just be sure to come in the winter, fall, or spring, LOL!
Trond Saetre March 26th, 2007, 12:59 PM Thank you Trond,
You'd love it here in Arizona, just be sure to come in the winter, fall, or spring, LOL!
Haha, yeah your winter is probably like a nice summer day up north here in Norway.
Marco Wagner March 26th, 2007, 01:09 PM Yeah pretty unstable winters, sometimes as low as in the 20s F and as high as 90s F. That is what we saw in the last couple months.
Randall Allen March 31st, 2007, 12:46 PM That was a great look into your area. Not really anything that I can say that the others have not already said.
Thanks
Randy
Marco Wagner April 3rd, 2007, 10:55 AM Thanks Randy, I much appreciate those who appreciate. :-)
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